Drink Driving

  • Mark85

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    Apr 04, 2011 9:49 AM GMT
    Last year I was out with my mates and had a few drinks. I thought I was OK to drive home as it was just a short spin. I ended up having a crash and hit another car and injuring the other driver and got arrested and charged.

    This has been hanging over me for a few months now and this day next week I get sentenced. I know I am going to prison because of this. Making that mistake has screwed up my life. As well as prison I will lose my job, be banned from driving, maybe my boyfriend. I haven't been in any trouble with the police since I was younger.

    I wish I could turn back time and not have driven when I did. I'm 26 and feel pretty bad about what is happening. I have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine but would say to anybody who does that don't take the risk as you don't know what can happen and how it can screw things up for you.
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    Apr 04, 2011 9:50 AM GMT
    yes, you should feel guilty, because you could've killed someone including yourself.... drunk driving is frowned upon a lot here in Canada... a lot.

    So let it be a lesson to those that want to drive, don't be drunk!
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    Apr 04, 2011 9:57 AM GMT
    I have always been under the impression that drink driving isn't as closely regulated in the USA as it is here in Australia. Am I correct that you don't have breath testing for blood / alcohol content - just a sobriety test?
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    Apr 04, 2011 10:00 AM GMT
    bazungu saidI have always been under the impression that drink driving isn't as closely regulated in the USA as it is here in Australia. Am I correct that you don't have breath testing for blood / alcohol content - just a sobriety test?


    I'm in England so don't know about the USA. What happened to me is that I had to blow in to a little hand held machine they had at the scene. I then got arrested and brought back to the station and had to blow into a big machine that gave a reading.They also took blood from me.
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    Apr 04, 2011 10:49 AM GMT
    It depends on the state in the U.S.

    Here in Indiana it's like a slap on the wrist, but in Maricopa Co., AZ it's one way to ruin your entire life.
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    Apr 04, 2011 10:57 AM GMT
    Mark85 saidI have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine


    You're an idiot then, and I'm glad you got caught. I hope the person you injured in the crash has made a full recovery and it doesn't have any lasting impact on their life. You were lucky not to kill anyone.

    I have no sympathy for drink drivers, absolutely none whatsoever as it is entirely preventable - people like you destroy families by killing mothers, fathers, children. I hope you enjoy prison.
  • gallus81

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    Apr 04, 2011 11:36 AM GMT
    Mark85 said

    This has been hanging over me for a few months now and this day next week I get sentenced. I know I am going to prison because of this. Making that mistake has screwed up my life. As well as prison I will lose my job, be banned from driving, maybe my boyfriend. I haven't been in any trouble with the police since I was younger.




    1) Have you ever done this before? Doesn't sound like it.

    2) Did anyone die? No.

    3) Have you re-offended since? I certainly hope not.

    Unless the judiciary in the UK is vastly different to that of Australia (which it is not), you will not spend a single day in gaol. You'll get a fine (hefty), and most likely a suspended sentence of some form. You'll probably lose your licence for 12 months, maybe more, and you will only lose your job if you require your driver's licence for your work.

    There is no legal requirement to disclose the fact you are convicted to your employer unless it is written into your contract; ie, if you're working a 9-to-5 desk job that has no requirement for driving anywhere, your employer never needs to know. (Yes, there are some jobs that require this disclosure, but not every).



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    Apr 04, 2011 12:20 PM GMT
    I hate drink drivers with a passion....not an attractive quality
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    Apr 04, 2011 12:25 PM GMT
    Pure said
    Mark85 saidI have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine


    You're an idiot then, and I'm glad you got caught. I hope the person you injured in the crash has made a full recovery and it doesn't have any lasting impact on their life. You were lucky not to kill anyone.

    I have no sympathy for drink drivers, absolutely none whatsoever as it is entirely preventable - people like you destroy families by killing mothers, fathers, children. I hope you enjoy prison.

    fully agree and well said mate
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    Apr 04, 2011 12:46 PM GMT
    Pure said
    Mark85 saidI have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine


    You're an idiot then, and I'm glad you got caught. I hope the person you injured in the crash has made a full recovery and it doesn't have any lasting impact on their life. You were lucky not to kill anyone.

    I have no sympathy for drink drivers, absolutely none whatsoever as it is entirely preventable - people like you destroy families by killing mothers, fathers, children. I hope you enjoy prison.


    Do you only kick people when they're down on the ground, or are you an asshole all the time?
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    Apr 04, 2011 12:53 PM GMT
    bazunguI have always been under the impression that drink driving isn't as closely regulated in the USA as it is here in Australia. Am I correct that you don't have breath testing for blood / alcohol content - just a sobriety test?


    They definitely breathylize you here.

    Here (meaning in my state) it's pretty much a $10,000 "investment" and you lose your license for a year for a first offense. You may serve jail time or probation. The more offenses you have or the more serious the accident the more likely you are to go to jail. Here the legal limit is .08, and if you're above .14, after you get your license back you have to get an interlocking breathylyzer system that's installed in your car. When you're driving it makes you blow into it every half hour or so it can ascertain you're not drinking above the wheel. If you blow above a .01, the car won't start.

    And no I don't know from firsthand experience, I know all of that based on my job.

    When you drink the first thing to go out the window on your inhibitions, and one of the diagnostic criteria for alcohol abuse is recurrent use in physically hazardous situations. It doesn't take much to become dangerous even if you're within the legal limit, so heed the OP's warning.
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    Apr 04, 2011 12:57 PM GMT
    Squarepeg saidDo you only kick people when they're down on the ground, or are you an asshole all the time?


    He admitted to frequent drink driving and I'M the asshole? Get fucking real, what did he expect coming on here?

    Would you be defending him if he'd slaughtered your family while drunk behind the wheel?

    There's a reality check here which requires your signature.
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:11 PM GMT
    Pure said
    Squarepeg saidDo you only kick people when they're down on the ground, or are you an asshole all the time?


    He admitted to frequent drink driving and I'M the asshole? Get fucking real, what did he expect coming on here?

    Would you be defending him if he'd slaughtered your family while drunk behind the wheel?

    There's a reality check here which requires your signature.


    "have probably driven a few times" equals frequently in your world? are you serious?

    i don't condone drink driving at all... but in all seriousness I don't see any proof he did it often, and he is remorseful... we all make mistakes in our lives, without them we wouldn't be who we are today...

    i'd like to hear the OP's actual record and his alcohol reading at the time before passing judgement...

    bearing in mind that the limits in every country are different... in Australia it's 0.05 (less than the US), 0.02 for some provisional drivers and 0.00 for others... that means that even a serve of tiramisu can mean that drivers are technically over the limit!
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:12 PM GMT
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    bazungu saidI have always been under the impression that drink driving isn't as closely regulated in the USA as it is here in Australia. Am I correct that you don't have breath testing for blood / alcohol content - just a sobriety test?


    I'm in England so don't know about the USA. What happened to me is that I had to blow in to a little hand held machine they had at the scene. I then got arrested and brought back to the station and had to blow into a big machine that gave a reading.They also took blood from me.


    why do you think you're going to gaol for this? what makes it that serious a matter? you need to share the actual facts and circumstances...
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:16 PM GMT
    it should be 0 here in Australia for ALL drivers....no one should drink and then drive!
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:18 PM GMT
    76coopers said"have probably driven a few times" equals frequently in your world? are you serious?

    i don't condone drink driving at all... but in all seriousness I don't see any proof he did it often, and he is remorseful... we all make mistakes in our lives, without them we wouldn't be who we are today...


    He says:

    Mark85I have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine


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    Mark85I thought I was OK to drive home as it was just a short spin


    Yes I am making assumptions but to me that implies it is something he's done frequently and it just so happened that this time it went wrong. I would be very surprised if he's only ever done it once or twice by accident (i.e. was slightly over the limit). Fact is, if you're drinking at all you shouldn't be driving anyway.

    If he had said "I have never done this before, I thought I was ok but actually I was a bit over the limit" that would be one thing, but the way he describes it "it was just a short spin" just makes it sound like he's typical of the idiots who do it all the time when they know they are over the limit but because it's 'just down the road' they will be fine.

    Sickens me. If you had ever known someone affected by idiotic drink drivers you would think the same.

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    Apr 04, 2011 1:20 PM GMT
    76coopers saidand he is remorseful...


    Yes, of course he is - he's worried about going to jail etc. I didn't see any evidence of remorse for the person he injured or the damage to their car - did you?
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:28 PM GMT
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    76coopers said"have probably driven a few times" equals frequently in your world? are you serious?

    i don't condone drink driving at all... but in all seriousness I don't see any proof he did it often, and he is remorseful... we all make mistakes in our lives, without them we wouldn't be who we are today...


    He says:

    Mark85I have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine


    and

    Mark85I thought I was OK to drive home as it was just a short spin


    Yes I am making assumptions but to me that implies it is something he's done frequently and it just so happened that this time it went wrong. I would be very surprised if he's only ever done it once or twice by accident (i.e. was slightly over the limit). Fact is, if you're drinking at all you shouldn't be driving anyway.

    If he had said "I have never done this before, I thought I was ok but actually I was a bit over the limit" that would be one thing, but the way he describes it "it was just a short spin" just makes it sound like he's typical of the idiots who do it all the time when they know they are over the limit but because it's 'just down the road' they will be fine.

    Sickens me. If you had ever known someone affected by idiotic drink drivers you would think the same.



    You're kind of sickening me right now. Haha, your name is 'pure', you say your 'wholesome'. Does that mean you can pass deciding judgements on people? Even if he did get arrested for drunk driving, he's no worse as a person than you, probably better since you're clearly an opinionated twat. Get over yourself.
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:38 PM GMT
    SexyN3rd saidYou're kind of sickening me right now. Haha, your name is 'pure', you say your 'wholesome'. Does that mean you can pass deciding judgements on people? Even if he did get arrested for drunk driving, he's no worse as a person than you, probably better since you're clearly an opinionated twat. Get over yourself.


    Yes, I can pass judgement on people when their actions endanger the lives of innocent people. I think that's perfectly acceptable to judge people for that, personally. You're judging me for having an opinion - fairly innocuous in the grand scheme of things.

    Blimey, I never realised that criticising someone for a dangerous, life-threatening crime was such a RealJock no-no! Crucify me already.
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    Pure - I agree with everything you are saying icon_biggrin.gif keep up the good work mate
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    SexyN3rd saidYou're kind of sickening me right now. Haha, your name is 'pure', you say your 'wholesome'. Does that mean you can pass deciding judgements on people? Even if he did get arrested for drunk driving, he's no worse as a person than you, probably better since you're clearly an opinionated twat. Get over yourself.


    Yes, I can pass judgement on people when their actions endanger the lives of innocent people. I think that's perfectly acceptable to judge people for that, personally. You're judging me for having an opinion - fairly innocuous in the grand scheme of things.

    Blimey, I never realised that criticising someone for a dangerous, life-threatening crime was such a RealJock no-no! Crucify me already.


    You said an awful lot more than 'I disapprove of your choices'
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
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    76coopers said"have probably driven a few times" equals frequently in your world? are you serious?

    i don't condone drink driving at all... but in all seriousness I don't see any proof he did it often, and he is remorseful... we all make mistakes in our lives, without them we wouldn't be who we are today...


    He says:

    Mark85I have probably driven a few times with a few drinks and felt fine


    and

    Mark85I thought I was OK to drive home as it was just a short spin


    Yes I am making assumptions but to me that implies it is something he's done frequently and it just so happened that this time it went wrong. I would be very surprised if he's only ever done it once or twice by accident (i.e. was slightly over the limit). Fact is, if you're drinking at all you shouldn't be driving anyway.

    If he had said "I have never done this before, I thought I was ok but actually I was a bit over the limit" that would be one thing, but the way he describes it "it was just a short spin" just makes it sound like he's typical of the idiots who do it all the time when they know they are over the limit but because it's 'just down the road' they will be fine.

    Sickens me. If you had ever known someone affected by idiotic drink drivers you would think the same.



    not true, i actually do know someone that was affected by such a situation, and it ended up much worse... my gut feeling is that the OP's resignation to the fact he's going to gaol means it's much worse than he's letting on... i'm just saying, let's not jump to conclusions... let's hear the rest of the story... don't you think?
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    Apr 04, 2011 1:49 PM GMT
    Pure said
    76coopers saidand he is remorseful...


    Yes, of course he is - he's worried about going to jail etc. I didn't see any evidence of remorse for the person he injured or the damage to their car - did you?


    hey pure... this isn't the first thread by this guy on this, so i acknowledge that if you've only read this thread, then you're probably not seeing the whole story.. i also acknowledge that my view of his remorse is based on other posts over the last week...
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    Apr 04, 2011 2:03 PM GMT
    SexyN3rd said


    You're kind of sickening me right now. Haha, your name is 'pure', you say your 'wholesome'. Does that mean you can pass deciding judgements on people? Even if he did get arrested for drunk driving, he's no worse as a person than you, probably better since you're clearly an opinionated twat. Get over yourself.


    Second that.

    This guy is putting himself out there (probably from remorse or guilt) but we can at least learn from it rather than stringing him up by the toes and castigating him all day.

    Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Luke 6:37
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    Apr 04, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
    sea_buddy saidThis guy is putting himself out there (probably from remorse or guilt) but we can at least learn from it rather than stringing him up by the toes and castigating him all day.

    Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Luke 6:37


    Nothing to learn. I know drink driving is idiotic and dangerous, and I'm not afraid to say it.

    Everyone judges everyone, I judge people on their actions and that's my opinion which I stand by. I don't really care if you think I'm judgemental, there's a hell of a lot worse to slate someone for than expressing an opinion over a dangerous crime.