iphone -> android: first reaction - it sucks

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    Apr 05, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    So being a student with EXTREMELY limited funds, it occurred to me that shelling out $80+ a month for an iphone was simply irresponsible. So, I switched to a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus this past weekend. God do I miss the iPhone!

    My major issues:
    -the user interface just seems choppy and messy compared to the iphone
    -movement between screens or scrolls isn't as smooth as on the iphone
    -no autocorrect (i guess this can be a blessing too, but it's been more of a nuisance!)
    -the android version of the same iphone apps just seem "cheaper" if that makes sense (e.g., facebook, foursquare, youtube, the internet browser, grindr lol)
    -battery life (not sure if this is the phone, android or both) - i usually deplete the entire battery in the course of half a day, and it takes 5+ hours to charge the phone!!!

    However, I'm still saving $40+ a month by having this phone, so I don't think I'll switch back anytime soon (at least not while I'm living off gub'ment loans). Question to those who have used both - how did you adjust and is my experience with the android so far normal or did I get a lemon?
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    Apr 05, 2011 1:57 AM GMT
    atl2atx85 saidSo being a student with EXTREMELY limited funds, it occurred to me that shelling out $80+ a month for an iphone was simply irresponsible. So, I switched to a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus this past weekend. God do I miss the iPhone!

    My major issues:
    -the user interface just seems choppy and messy compared to the iphone
    -movement between screens or scrolls isn't as smooth as on the iphone
    -no autocorrect (i guess this can be a blessing too, but it's been more of a nuisance!)
    -the android version of the same iphone apps just seem "cheaper" if that makes sense (e.g., facebook, foursquare, youtube, the internet browser, grindr lol)
    -battery life (not sure if this is the phone, android or both) - i usually deplete the entire battery in the course of half a day, and it takes 5+ hours to charge the phone!!!

    However, I'm still saving $40+ a month by having this phone, so I don't think I'll switch back anytime soon (at least not while I'm living off gub'ment loans). Question to those who have used both - how did you adjust and is my experience with the android so far normal or did I get a lemon?

    I'll reply for the bolded text: You'll drain much of your battery life if you have an app that uses GPS (i.e. teh Grindr app). I own a higher-end android phone which last from 7am - 9pm roughly for normal usage, but one day I left navigation app running in my car while I went to work. During lunch I went back to my car to check for new messages, and noticed the battery had dropped to 10%!!! Really?!!! 5 hours!!

    It's your GPS app, brightness of display, using hi-network wifi such as 4G, and finally background apps. I suggest downloading a task killer app. These work very well.
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
    The overall Android interface feels less responsive compared to iOS but seriously... LG Optimus out of all options?
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    I have both a BB Storm 2 and a Droid X

    I downloaded an app from market center called Advanced Task Killer to help me with battery life. I couldn't even make it through a work out on a charge and kept a spare battery in my locker. I had the biggest problem in the gym for some reason and I noticed that the battery cover was always quite warm. It also helps to turn the gps and wifi off when you don't need it. Somehow, someway I cured the problem with battery life and now I get through the workout and still have 90% left and my workouts are 3 hours +.

    I like the screen size of the X and the number apps that are available. It’s a cool phone for the advanced features, but the blackberry blows it away on the basics like email and usability as a phone. Email is really a problem on android, and I had to load a 3rd party app called touchdown to get it to come close to the performance of the Storm 2 on a Blackberry Enterprise server for my exchange email. I have seven or eight other emails addresses going to each device. The blackberry is the easy winner. The Droid has a nicer browser and bigger screen so it does better with FB, foursquare, maps, drudge, fox news, etc. The still camera is ok, but the video comes out just great. Overall, I still feel that I need both the BB and the Droid.

    And regarding the autocorrect: the BB completes with a word that makes sense and the Droid just completes a word - whether it makes sense or not - usually not.

    I wish I could have the best of both in one phone.
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
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    atl2atx85 saidSo being a student with EXTREMELY limited funds, it occurred to me that shelling out $80+ a month for an iphone was simply irresponsible. So, I switched to a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus this past weekend. God do I miss the iPhone!

    My major issues:
    -the user interface just seems choppy and messy compared to the iphone
    -movement between screens or scrolls isn't as smooth as on the iphone
    -no autocorrect (i guess this can be a blessing too, but it's been more of a nuisance!)
    -the android version of the same iphone apps just seem "cheaper" if that makes sense (e.g., facebook, foursquare, youtube, the internet browser, grindr lol)
    -battery life (not sure if this is the phone, android or both) - i usually deplete the entire battery in the course of half a day, and it takes 5+ hours to charge the phone!!!

    However, I'm still saving $40+ a month by having this phone, so I don't think I'll switch back anytime soon (at least not while I'm living off gub'ment loans). Question to those who have used both - how did you adjust and is my experience with the android so far normal or did I get a lemon?

    I'll reply for the bolded text: You'll drain much of your battery life if you have an app that uses GPS (i.e. teh Grindr app). I own a higher-end android phone which last from 7am - 9pm roughly for normal usage, but one day I left navigation app running in my car while I went to work. During lunch I went back to my car to check for new messages, and noticed the battery had dropped to 10%!!! Really?!!! 5 hours!!

    It's your GPS app, brightness of display, using hi-network wifi such as 4G, and finally background apps. I suggest downloading a task killer app. These work very well.


    these task killer apps look interesting...when i first googled the issue, all i ran into were these explanations on how androids don't need "force shutdowns" because of the way linux handles apps. theoretically what they said made sense, but it didn't translate into actual better performance...
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    charlitos saidThe overall Android interface feels less responsive compared to iOS but seriously... LG Optimus out of all options?


    well, the LG Optimus is one of two android phones that's offered by Virgin Mobile, and it seems that it has the one of the best reputations of any Android phone (regardless of price range)

    ...just didn't realize that as a whole, Android sets the bar much much lower than Apple
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    OneGeezer saidI have both a BB Storm 2 and a Droid X

    I downloaded an app from market center called Advanced Task Killer to help me with battery life. I couldn't even make it through a work out on a charge and kept a spare battery in my locker. I had the biggest problem in the gym for some reason and I noticed that the battery cover was always quite warm. It also helps to turn the gps and wifi off when you don't need it. Somehow, someway I cured the problem with battery life and now I get through the workout and still have 90% left and my workouts are 3 hours +.

    I like the screen size of the X and the number apps that are available. It’s a cool phone for the advanced features, but the blackberry blows it away on the basics like email and usability as a phone. Email is really a problem on android, and I had to load a 3rd party app called touchdown to get it to come close to the performance of the Storm 2 on a Blackberry Enterprise server for my exchange email. I have seven or eight other emails addresses going to each device. The blackberry is the easy winner. The Droid has a nicer browser and bigger screen so it does better with FB, foursquare, maps, drudge, fox news, etc. The still camera is ok, but the video comes out just great. Overall, I still feel that I need both the BB and the Droid.


    hah i was actually just thinking how of all the features of android, the email integration with gmail is the one thing that's better than the iphone. i guess it would make sense that blackberry is better suited for email (after all, it was originally conceptualized as a corporate email device).

    I'm starting to think I need the Advanced Task killer. I was thinking of using Pandora during workouts, but it looks like 2 hours of continuous use would surely drain the battery to nil. icon_confused.gif
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:25 AM GMT
    I know a few guys who I work out with that have both the iphone and the Droid X and prefer the Droid. Beats me!

    Sometimes I get duplicates of emails, sometimes four of the same and once in a while not at all. I do end getting the email about 12 hours later. The blackberry just never screws up when it comes to email. I carry both all the time so its a good comparison. I just don't trust android regarding email.
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    Apr 05, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
    atl2atx85 said
    OneGeezer saidI have both a BB Storm 2 and a Droid X

    I downloaded an app from market center called Advanced Task Killer to help me with battery life. I couldn't even make it through a work out on a charge and kept a spare battery in my locker. I had the biggest problem in the gym for some reason and I noticed that the battery cover was always quite warm. It also helps to turn the gps and wifi off when you don't need it. Somehow, someway I cured the problem with battery life and now I get through the workout and still have 90% left and my workouts are 3 hours +.

    I like the screen size of the X and the number apps that are available. It’s a cool phone for the advanced features, but the blackberry blows it away on the basics like email and usability as a phone. Email is really a problem on android, and I had to load a 3rd party app called touchdown to get it to come close to the performance of the Storm 2 on a Blackberry Enterprise server for my exchange email. I have seven or eight other emails addresses going to each device. The blackberry is the easy winner. The Droid has a nicer browser and bigger screen so it does better with FB, foursquare, maps, drudge, fox news, etc. The still camera is ok, but the video comes out just great. Overall, I still feel that I need both the BB and the Droid.


    hah i was actually just thinking how of all the features of android, the email integration with gmail is the one thing that's better than the iphone. i guess it would make sense that blackberry is better suited for email (after all, it was originally conceptualized as a corporate email device).

    I'm starting to think I need the Advanced Task killer. I was thinking of using Pandora during workouts, but it looks like 2 hours of continuous use would surely drain the battery to nil. icon_confused.gif


    I don't use gmail all that much, but use my exchange acct plus have several hotmail, and an old aol that I use for ebay since 1996. However, the gmail integration with android is what the iPhone/Droid users would point to. If the iPhone is that bad I guess I will have BBs forever.

    I'm a commercial real estate broker licensed in multiple states and do deals all over North America. With some statutes of limitations on a business tort being as long as four years, its exceedingly important to document everything. I’ve saved a couple of my fellow geezer clients in lawsuits because I document everything and they had nothing and the plaintiff didn’t have jack shit either. I text with my much younger gym buddies, but my old guy clients won’t text for the most part, which is good when it comes to doing deals.

    The blackberry is so fast that the email back and forth is almost like texting plus I have a permanent record of it.
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    Apr 05, 2011 7:50 AM GMT
    atl2atx85 saidSo being a student with EXTREMELY limited funds, it occurred to me that shelling out $80+ a month for an iphone was simply irresponsible. So, I switched to a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus this past weekend. God do I miss the iPhone!
    ...

    Why didn't you just jailbreak your iphone and go with prepaid service on T-Mobile?
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    Apr 05, 2011 10:35 PM GMT
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    atl2atx85 saidSo being a student with EXTREMELY limited funds, it occurred to me that shelling out $80+ a month for an iphone was simply irresponsible. So, I switched to a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus this past weekend. God do I miss the iPhone!
    ...

    Why didn't you just jailbreak your iphone and go with prepaid service on T-Mobile?


    cause it would have been just as much $ per month as AT&T but with a slower and smaller network
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    Apr 05, 2011 10:47 PM GMT
    charlitos saidThe overall Android interface feels less responsive compared to iOS but seriously... LG Optimus out of all options?


    This. It's not that Android necessarily sucks, it's just that you got a not-so-great phone and are paying $40 a month. You get what you pay for. Android phones that are comparable in cost and monthly expense will be just as nice as the iPhone. I have the Galaxy S on Verizon and some of my friends with iPhones are jealous...
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    Apr 05, 2011 11:00 PM GMT
    atl2atx85 said
    -no autocorrect (i guess this can be a blessing too, but it's been more of a nuisance!)
    -battery life (not sure if this is the phone, android or both) - i usually deplete the entire battery in the course of half a day, and it takes 5+ hours to charge the phone!!!


    Did yours come with the Android keyboard? That one definitely has autocorrect and like with Swype, I've had to teach it some of my favorite words.

    I would recommend Juice Defender so that data isn't being used while the phone is in standby except on a set interval.I've had it installed for a few days and it's saved my battery by several hours. That should hold me until I get around to flashing an unbranded ROM that doesn't include AT&T's crapware again.
  • somedaytoo

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    Apr 05, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    I don't like either. So I went with a Windows Phone 7. It SO buttery smooth. The UI is awesome and easy to use. XBox built in. Facebook too. Best phone I ever had.
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    Apr 05, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    I've had Verizon's first official LTE phone, the Thunderbolt, since its release day and have to say it's amazing. My friends with iPhones are envious of the phone's various speeds for use, web surfing, downloading, etc. Yes, it suffers the same battery life woes as other Android phones if you don't get apps like Advance Task Killer or Juice Defender...but even with lots of web usage, Facebooking, texting and calling I can just charge my phone overnight be ok for the day.
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    Apr 05, 2011 11:12 PM GMT
    What amazes me is how expensive it is monthly to have an Iphone or a smart phone in the US. Abroad the phone is pricey however the monthly rate is about $45USD. Android OS, you pretty much have to learn especially if you had a previously used and iphone is what i keep hearing from my bro. icon_confused.gif
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    Apr 06, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    I will randomly interject I am sick of my slow ass old 3G iPhone. Can't wait till I replace it. I am torn between an Android and Windows 7 phone when my contract renews this year. I love some of the Win7 phone features such as Xbox Live integration; however, the immense lack of certain applications that I want makes me sad icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 06, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    A little off topic - but I use an iPhone and recently tried using an Android based tablet, the Xoom. It just didn't seem as smooth and intuitive as Apple's OS so I wound up getting an iPad instead. Maybe once you're used to Apple, it spoils you a bit as far as being willing to get familiar with a different OS.
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    Apr 06, 2011 12:43 AM GMT
    atl2atx85 said
    charlitos saidThe overall Android interface feels less responsive compared to iOS but seriously... LG Optimus out of all options?


    well, the LG Optimus is one of two android phones that's offered by Virgin Mobile, and it seems that it has the one of the best reputations of any Android phone (regardless of price range)

    ...just didn't realize that as a whole, Android sets the bar much much lower than Apple


    It's an entry level Android phone. Also, Android does have autocorrect.

    I bought my parents both LG Optimus S (the Sprint version). It's a paired down Android phone. I have the EVO and it's nicer. My friend just got the Thunderbolt which is even better.

    Unfortunately with the Optimus it's a case of you get what you pay for.
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    Apr 06, 2011 12:46 AM GMT
    I'm just as happy with my HTC Desire Android phone as I am with my iPod Touch. However, if US Cellular ever offers the iPhone, I would be mightily tempted to get one. As for tablets, I recently ordered a pair of iPads.
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    Apr 06, 2011 12:46 AM GMT
    My phone is from the '00s.

    I pwn u n00bs.
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    Apr 06, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
    atl2atx85 said
    charlitos saidThe overall Android interface feels less responsive compared to iOS but seriously... LG Optimus out of all options?


    well, the LG Optimus is one of two android phones that's offered by Virgin Mobile, and it seems that it has the one of the best reputations of any Android phone (regardless of price range)

    ...just didn't realize that as a whole, Android sets the bar much much lower than Apple


    The main problem with Android is fragmentation. Even if you buy the top of the line, it will be out dated in a couple of months and LG Optimus is not a top of the line Android smartphone. It comes after HTC, Samsung and Sony Ericson. All I'm saying is that your phone might have problems with recent upgrades or not even be able to qualify for an upgrade at all.

    Anyway Android is a good mobile OS but it's not better than iOS, it feels cheap sometimes and most of the phones I've seen running android kinda remind me of a secretary from the 90s who just learned how to use a computer and puts 1000 icons forming shapes on the screen and the most annoying wallpapers and screen savers in the history of computing that plus tiny gadgets all over the screen as if it were a PC.
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    Apr 06, 2011 7:36 PM GMT
    Just had Juice Defender installed his AM and I'm noticing a maaaajooor improvement. It's 2:35PM and the battery meter is still at around 75%! Yesterday at this time, it was down to 20% or so.

    Yay for cheap android phones!
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    Apr 06, 2011 7:46 PM GMT
    I have the Evo, and I love the phone, looking into rooting(jailbreak) your phone, you can unlock so much great functionality, I rooted my Evo, and was able to pretty much almost double the battery life but adjusting some settings ect..

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=836

    is a great place to start icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 06, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    Root your phone if you can. Get a custom ROM. Android becomes an immeasurably better experience -- head and shoulders above iOS and undeniably superior to any custom-skinned manufacturer ROM.

    Sure, Android ain't pretty, but I find it to be a much more powerful OS than any of the others on the market today. Looks aren't everything when it comes to my tech.