Cigarettes

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    Apr 07, 2011 6:43 AM GMT
    I recently received a message from a dear friend who pointed out a few of the chemicals that were in my cigarette

    I didn't read into it very deeply, but it did genuinely pique my interest on the matter. I'm curious to hear people's thoughts about smoking/smokers. (not that it's going to get me to quit of course. those nasty chemicals and the stench of death are much to enticing :winkicon_smile.gif
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    Apr 07, 2011 6:45 AM GMT
    It's only ok to smoke when you drink.
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    Apr 07, 2011 6:47 AM GMT
    who cares, we're all slowly dying anyways....live a little :d
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    Apr 07, 2011 7:16 AM GMT
    It's among one of the more unattractive things a guy could do.
    Somewhere along the lines of drop-kicking a puppy.
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    Apr 07, 2011 7:23 AM GMT
    staple_ saidIt's only ok to smoke when you drink.


    It's only ok to smoke when you don't admit it on a message board. Lest you want 4 pages condemning you for it.
  • DCEric

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    Apr 07, 2011 10:23 AM GMT
    Smoking is extremely unattractive. It is no different (for me) than doing any other recreational drug.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Apr 07, 2011 10:26 AM GMT
    deal breaker-no matter what.
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    Apr 07, 2011 10:44 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saiddeal breaker-no matter what.


    I'm with you here too. Unfortunately, people smoke for several reasons. Regardless of their reasons, i don't find it logical to take on an unhealthy addiction. Why not be addicted to outdoors or breaking a sweat from your morning run. Somehow over the years, I equated people smoking = baggage (like having issues). I just don't want to even go there.
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    Apr 07, 2011 11:49 AM GMT
    Smoked for 17 years, tried to quit for the last 5. Then finally quit for good 4 years ago and could never go back. I can run again! for more than 5 minutes! Exciting shit being able to breath.

    Now I'm one of 'those' ex-smokers who gets all preachy about not smoking, because everything bad they say about cigarettes is true, and those of us who have or do smoke, know that. I barely go over to smoker friends houses anymore because they smell and I have to do laundry as soon as I get home to get the smell out of my clothes.

    The government is always trying to make them illegal without actually just making them illegal, and they harm more than just yourself. My poor white cat used to have a yellow tinge to her icon_sad.gif People who smoke around their kids or in the house with their pets deserve a slap in the head.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 07, 2011 12:37 PM GMT
    My partner used to smoke when we first got together and while I thought it was imprudent behavior, I never told him it was "stupid"...he knew he needed to stop and did eventually.

    I won't say I look down on people who smoke these days, but I especially think younger people who smoke are really doing a disservice. In the end,
    it is their right to do what they want, so long as I'm no downwind.. then it's mine!
  • alphatop

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    Apr 07, 2011 12:56 PM GMT
    I smoke like a chimney. If you don't like it, well, that's your problem thenicon_twisted.gif
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    Apr 07, 2011 1:09 PM GMT
    Smokers are gross.

    I know cause I was one once.
  • momewrath

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    Apr 07, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
    kaoi saidSmoked for 17 years, tried to quit for the last 5. Then finally quit for good 4 years ago and could never go back. I can run again! for more than 5 minutes! Exciting shit being able to breath.


    Performance was a HUGE part of why I stopped. I was basically getting nowhere at the gym and tiring out a little too soon when I was doing it every day.

    I can't say I'm perfect yet. Still a little too tempted to get it whenever I drink or just around other smokers in general. But at least I don't get so many cravings anymore.

    I definitely could not be quite as active as I am now if I were still doing it. Since I've quit, I've went from doing 30 minutes at the gym maybe 3 times a week to being at the gym(s) at least two hours at least six times a week.
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    Apr 07, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saiddeal breaker-no matter what.

    This^^^^

    Absolutely, positively gross habit

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    Apr 07, 2011 4:05 PM GMT
    Smoke additive-free organic tobacco if possible. Don't smoke more than one or two packs every month or so. Eat well and exercise. This is really the only way I can think of to safely keep cigarettes in your life.

    Consider the French Paradox.
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    Apr 07, 2011 4:15 PM GMT
    Fun game to play with a smoker: make good, fast friends with them. Move faster than they do down the sidewalk, take stairs two at a time, take up dancing and biking. Your friendship is the carrot, of course.

    They struggle to keep up. If it looks like they're lagging too far, enough that it appears they need a break, circle back and tell them jokes for 10 minutes straight, so that they begin doing that raspy cough-laugh thing. Of course, stop telling jokes when a bluish cast appears beneath their wrinkled brown skin. Give them a hug and tell them how awesome it is to have them as a friend. Then, hop on your bike and speed on ahead of them.

    Stop for a bite to eat at one of those vegan salad bars (of course get the outdoor seat, so that they can smoke at the table).

    Ten more minutes of jokes.

    Be the guy who sneaks them smokes in the hospital.

    Lather, rinse, repeat. I get them to quit in less than a year.
  • calibro

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    Apr 07, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    newsflash: smoking, in any amount, is bad. there's no such thing as a safe cigarette. and smoking is not only harmful to those who smoke, but also to people who are around the smoker (second-hand smoke) and those who aren't around (third-hand smoke).

    i don't think anyone who smokes doesn't know these things. so if you smoke, you smoke. if you don't, you don't. it's completely an idiotic thing to do, and i don't think even smokers will argue with that, but it's their life. hopefully they have the courtesy not to smoke in front of other people, and that's all i ask for.
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    Apr 07, 2011 4:31 PM GMT
    Chip2Stan saidConsider the French Paradox.


    This is a little bit of a pet peeve of mine. This is something that is said more to make people feel good than any scientific truth. 35% of the French population smokes, compared to 25% of the American population. So yes, the French smoke more but not by leaps and bounds. Their life expectancy is longer than ours because of their diet, not because smoking isn't that bad for you. Studies have found that their good fat to bad fat ratio is exponentially more favorable than ours, they eat smaller portions, they eat much less sugar, don't snack as often and avoid popular American fast foods, chips, etc. If our diets were comparable you'd likely see similar life expectancies.

    There is no way to tip toe around it or justify it: smoking is absolutely terrible for you. I smoke when I drink, and I wish I hadn't picked it up. That's probably only a pack every three or four months, but still...
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    Apr 07, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    Not on my watch. It's a selfish habit.
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    Apr 07, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
    I was a social smoker before,and now stopped completely as I stopped drinking too lol
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    Apr 07, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    I've puffed a fag here or there... I've smoked a cigarette too ;)

    What? No rimshot?!

    Anyhow, yes I used to do the smoke when I drink thing (try living in Paris and NOT smoking!) but any more i just can't stand it. The worst are people that smoke half a cigarette then carry it around in the pack or behind their ear for later. Have a friend that does it and the smell is nauseating!
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    Apr 07, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
    Ermine saidIt's among one of the more unattractive things a guy could do.
    Somewhere along the lines of drop-kicking a puppy.


    I smoke, tried to quit numerous times, it is truly difficult. I've tried everything aside from using other chemicals to stop (i.e. chantix, patch, gum). It's easy for someone who has never stoked to say, "just quit" its not easy. I've been in quitting mode and by habit bought a pack, then realized halfway through the transaction that I'm quitting, what the hell ate you doing?!

    Now as for drop kicking puppies, that's just plain fun, as is taking candy from small children, popping basketballs and volleyballs at the local Boys Club, and slapping pregnant women. These aren't addictions, just vices, I could easily stop, but it is just so much fucking fun
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    Apr 07, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
    not a big fan of smoking. a huge turn off.
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    Apr 07, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
    Ermine saidIt's among one of the more unattractive things a guy could do.
    Somewhere along the lines of drop-kicking a puppy.



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    hmmmmmm....ok. but i prefer a non-smoker. don't like the smell very much and find it somewhat of a turn off. along with bad hygiene, drugs, and other things as well. but thats just my preference.
  • EricLA

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    Apr 07, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    I'd find it difficult to date a smoker. Though I'm empathetic about the addictive elements, the impact on health is well documented and should be enough motivation for a reasonably intelligent person to quit. (Though I'm not suggesting only smart people don't smoke and only unintelligent people do.)

    I find cigarette butts among the most disgusting of litter. Filled ashtrays make any living space feel dirty and the air stagnant. I recoil at the smell of cigarette smoke on people's breath and clothes. The thought of French kissing a smoker is a cock-blocker.

    Could I overcome these feelings? Possibly, for the right person. But they would have to be a very occasional smoker, which quite frankly, I understand less than a heavy smoker. If the guy was working towards quitting, I think I could be supportive for a bit of transition time until they quit.