Arkansas Supreme Court strikes down voter approved law barring gay adoptions

  • metta

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    Apr 07, 2011 4:25 PM GMT
    Arkansas Supreme Court strikes down voter approved law barring gay adoptions

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110407/ap_on_re_us/us_arkansas_adoptions_2
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    Apr 07, 2011 6:56 PM GMT
    In before the right-wing "activist judges" comment.

    The citizens of Arkansas voted for hate.
    The Arkansas Supreme Court did what they are supposed to do and struck down a law that was unconstitutional. Good for them.
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    Apr 07, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    Oh the "Christian Talaban" are going to be seething over this decision, their god told them these gays are the devil and the democrats are running their god out of government. They'll start prayer bands to defeat the dem activist judges and the talaban preachers will be extolling the glories of hell fire thats going to be brought down by their loving god to cleanse gods America of all those queers, so he can pour out a blessing across the land.

    At the end of the sermon you'll hear a closing prayer, Thank you jezuz for your guidance in ridding our country of the sin of homosexuality, give us strength for our battles against evil, for the enemy is strong but out god is stronger, for god truely is a god of love. in the name of the father son and the holy ghost, AMEN.
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    Apr 08, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
    Christian Taliban?

    That's a weeeee bit of a stretch, no?

    There are plenty of haters out there, but don't think they are into putting their women into burkhas or pushing walls down on top of the gays or infidels. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 08, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    And interesting enough, if Christians REALLY want to have God pour out a blessing upon the land, then this applies rather well for them:

    2 Chronicles 7:14If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.


    Nothing in there about killing off pagans or queers or people who fail to use turn signals when changing lanes (truly a wicked sin if there ever was one! )

    More about reining in their own issues. (Ted Haggard, I'm looking at YOU!)
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    Apr 08, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    I'm sure the tea baggers and their thumper gop buds are gonna mount a campaign to out those activist judges!
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    Apr 09, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    I am glad that there is some positive hope for eventual equality in Arkansas. This state supreme court decision serves the hatemongers right. This will hopefully teach them not to try to legislate hate with a public referendum. But I am more than sure there will be a powerful, right wing backlash with all the biblical fire and brimstone fairy tales polluting the air. There will be cries of we have to take back the Arkansas supreme court from the activists.
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    Apr 10, 2011 1:14 AM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidChristian Taliban?

    That's a weeeee bit of a stretch, no?

    There are plenty of haters out there, but don't think they are into putting their women into burkhas or pushing walls down on top of the gays or infidels. icon_lol.gif

    No? Then what is the fight over Planned Parenthood about?
    I think Christian Taliban is an entirely warranted name.


    It was a fight mostly to rally the social conservative base (particularly following the Southern Strategy), and secondly, to reduce federal spending.

    Of course, if the GOP were really serious about budget reduction, reducing the size of the tax code, auditing the Federal Reserve and reducing its power, and ending the undeclared (and questionably unconstitutional) wars in the Middle East would be much better fish to fry than whether or not some poor girl gets a pap smear or terminates a pregnancy.

    But I'd say that if American Christians were truly taliban-ish, our government would be less a secular Republic with some trappings of religion than say, the years of Geneva "the city of God" under John Calvin.

    Or where most of the SCOTUS would be disciples of Rousas John Rushdoony. icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 10, 2011 1:18 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidChristian Taliban?

    That's a weeeee bit of a stretch, no?

    There are plenty of haters out there, but don't think they are into putting their women into burkhas or pushing walls down on top of the gays or infidels. icon_lol.gif


    You must be living in a fantasy world. Either that or you have lived in an environment very accepting of gays and non-Christians. I've had more problems as a Jew in this country than as a gay man, and all of those problems center on Christan dogma being applied to my, and my partners lives.
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    Apr 10, 2011 1:21 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidChristian Taliban?

    That's a weeeee bit of a stretch, no?
    I grew up in that god-forbidden state.
    No, it's not a stretch...it's an understatement.
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    Apr 10, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidChristian Taliban?

    That's a weeeee bit of a stretch, no?
    I grew up in that god-forbidden state.
    No, it's not a stretch...it's an understatement.
    +1!
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    Apr 10, 2011 7:39 AM GMT
    Generally: I won't say that there aren't bigots and haters within the general population of Christians.

    I'm just saying that to lump them all in with the Taliban (a sect of Muslims well-known for their extremism and murder of those who disagree with their interpretation of Islam) is perhaps a bit of a jump.

    The closest possible thing to a Christian "Taliban" in the USA might be those disciples of a certain hyper-Calvinist, Rousas John Rushdoony, that is, the Theonomists or Christian Reconstructionists who want to put the country under Old Testament Law (to include killing homosexuals, hetero adulterers, and kids who mouth off one too many times to their parents, among some of the finer points of the mitzvot (Law).

    Specific to Arkansas: I reckon that that part of the country probably is fairly intolerant of much of anything that has happened since 1945. You might find more than a few Reconstructionist Rushdoonyites out that way... but their doctrines have very little chance of ever becoming the law of land, much less state law.

    Not quite the Taliban or that evil man from Uganda whose name escapes me (who wants to make homosexuality a capital crime in Uganda).

    The key difference being that the Taliban actually held power in their land (and still are very influential now), as this Ugandan leader does in his land; the extreme so-called "christians" who would see us under the Old Testament Law have less chance of realizing their agenda than lightning twice striking a guy who has won two powerball lotteries at the same time.
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    Apr 10, 2011 1:01 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidGenerally: I won't say that there aren't bigots and haters within the general population of Christians.

    I'm just saying that to lump them all in with the Taliban (a sect of Muslims well-known for their extremism and murder of those who disagree with their interpretation of Islam) is perhaps a bit of a jump.

    The closest possible thing to a Christian "Taliban" in the USA might be those disciples of a certain hyper-Calvinist, Rousas John Rushdoony, that is, the Theonomists or Christian Reconstructionists who want to put the country under Old Testament Law (to include killing homosexuals, hetero adulterers, and kids who mouth off one too many times to their parents, among some of the finer points of the mitzvot (Law).

    Specific to Arkansas: I reckon that that part of the country probably is fairly intolerant of much of anything that has happened since 1945. You might find more than a few Reconstructionist Rushdoonyites out that way... but their doctrines have very little chance of ever becoming the law of land, much less state law.

    Not quite the Taliban or that evil man from Uganda whose name escapes me (who wants to make homosexuality a capital crime in Uganda).

    The key difference being that the Taliban actually held power in their land (and still are very influential now), as this Ugandan leader does in his land; the extreme so-called "christians" who would see us under the Old Testament Law have less chance of realizing their agenda than lightning twice striking a guy who has won two powerball lotteries at the same time.
    Ok.. I can agree to this post..
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    Apr 10, 2011 1:51 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidChristian Taliban?

    That's a weeeee bit of a stretch, no?

    There are plenty of haters out there, but don't think they are into putting their women into burkhas or pushing walls down on top of the gays or infidels. icon_lol.gif


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    don't stretch what I'm saying !!

    The Talaban is intent on pushing their brand of religious Islam on everyone, thinking they should all agree with them or lose the "blessings of god" and a great share of the Christian Fundamentalists and Christians in general would impose their Chirstian "values/morals" on everyone, because they too believe that the US will lose the "blessings of god". You don't know very many frequent church goes if you aren't aware of this.


    My reference to Christian Talaban is only referencing the similarity of thinking that all should live as they do. These peoples mindsets actually believe in punishments and loss of blessings from their god just like the talaban. So get over stratching my statement comparing it to atrocities of the talaban. (Go back in history of Catholic Christians and the Talaban will look tame when compared to numbers of atrocities if you want to stretch things)

    So again, the fundamentalists trying to push their brand of morality on the public are "Christian Talaban", its quite an effective term to get the point accross about their fanaticism. Listen to some Saturday night and Sunday radio and TV preaching for some examples of what I'm saying, read "right wing watch" for more examples, its quite alarming.

    Note too, that human nature has not changed one bit, these people warrent watching closely and fighting against them because they would bring down their "rules and values" on the rest of us if they could. They want that blessing from god so in their minds they're doing gods will. He who forgets history is condemned to repeat it.