Fingering can lead to HIV transmission.

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    Apr 08, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to raise awareness of the fact, that most people are not aware of.

    I was informed by sexual health clinics here in Toronto that If your partner jerks off his dick and then fingers you, you can get HIV or other possible STI transmissions due to the fact his finger may come in contact with precum which is then inserted directly into the anus.

    with the rise of HIV again in the gay community, I wanted to make sure you guys are safe!

    Cheers,
    Nitin
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    Apr 08, 2011 1:51 PM GMT
    PrinceOfArya said If your partner jerks off his dick and then fingers you, you can get HIV or other possible STI transmissions due to the fact his finger may come in contact with precum which is then inserted directly into the anus.


    QFT. Most of my friends that are into fisting are very meticulous about using different hands to jack off vs put inside a man's ass, and change gloves constantly. Another reason it's important to stay sober during sex (so the top is on his game about using certain hands to do certain things).
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    Apr 08, 2011 1:54 PM GMT
    I thought the virus died when exposed to air?
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    Apr 08, 2011 2:08 PM GMT
    Pure saidI thought the virus died when exposed to air?


    The virus cannot reproduce, and starts to die when exposed to air. It can take hours for the virus to die up to 90 - 99%.
    http://www.thebody.com/content/art17220.html

    Keep in mind, these studies were performed with a higher-than-normal concentration of HIV, due to the difficulty of keeping the virus alive in a lab. I was not able to find a study that showed if any of the traces of the virus in RNA were able to complete their life cycle after exposure to air, then placed back in its ideal environment.
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    Apr 08, 2011 9:33 PM GMT
    Ohjeeze. Thanks for the heads up. I really didn't know that
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    Apr 08, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
    Devious women have also used that method to purposely impregnate themselves (jacking off the b/f then fingering herself).
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    Apr 08, 2011 10:57 PM GMT
    I'm just going to stay away from homosexuals altogether.
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    Apr 08, 2011 10:59 PM GMT
    I can understand fisting but fingering!? One or two? Hmmm
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    Apr 08, 2011 10:59 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidI'm just going to stay away from homosexuals altogether.
    Me too. From now on I'm only dating straight guys via CL.
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    Apr 11, 2011 1:15 AM GMT
    A1EX saidI can understand fisting but fingering!? One or two? Hmmm


    I don't think it matters how many fingers have bodily fluids on them to be susceptible to diseases. Don't fall for the whole "just the tip" thing either. icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 12, 2011 12:21 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidI'm just going to stay away from homosexuals altogether.


    LOOOL
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    Apr 13, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    HIV spreads from body fluids which is the normal physiological and chemical environment for the virus unlike the more common adenoviruses which are airborne.

    Several factor pertain to rendering HIV virions ineffective in air. UV exposure leads to degradation of bases like, more commonly Cytosine, making up the RNA (the coding information for retroviruses like HIV). But UV concentration has to be rather high. Additionally, the protein and lipid coating around the virus needed for recognition degrades in the air due to dehydration and pH changes as well as temperature changes-a nonoptimal environment for the proteins. Another factor is simple acid catalyzed dehydration in the air for RNA. single stranded RNA is unstable due to the fact that there are two OH groups on the pentose sugar, it is more susceptible to dehydration than DNA where the deoxy pentose sugar only has one OH group.

    As long as there is some form of liquid remaining, the sperm and all things including viruses in semen remain alive. Naturally, since the top layers die off, the concentration of the virus and sperm decreases, and thus the rate of transmission is also very low.

    I have read studies, where even dried HIV was able to retain viral activity when introduced to tissue, however, these concentration were 1000s X higher than normal concentrations found in blood.
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    Apr 23, 2011 8:23 AM GMT
    You can also get HIV if you rub your anus all over a toilet seat in a public bathroom that someone else has came on.