So, I was wondering whether or not there are many gay freemasons, could be an interesting subject for debate, lets see! :-)

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    Apr 08, 2011 2:10 PM GMT
    Just thought I would open the door to discussion on gay guys within freemasonry
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    Apr 08, 2011 5:40 PM GMT
    This seems very gay.

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    Apr 09, 2011 7:59 AM GMT
    mixtape saidThis seems very gay.



    not quite the response i was looking for but :-)
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    Apr 09, 2011 8:03 AM GMT
    I could use a free mason. I need some decorative stone work done on my patio.
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    Apr 09, 2011 8:07 AM GMT
    On the Anti-Gay forums that I post at they believe that Freemasonry and Homosexuality (male) has a link. It's not meant to be a positive link though. They believe that they have underground sex orgies and Satanic rituals and are trying to promote Homosexuality to the good ol' Heterosexual citizens of America.
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    Apr 09, 2011 8:39 AM GMT
    IIRC, Freemasons (Scottish rites) were founded on the principles of the Knights of Templar. The Templar Knights were brought down because it was said that they were sodomites who worshiped the Devil and would awaken Kundalini by kissing another Knight on his anus.
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    Apr 09, 2011 8:48 AM GMT
    Nice to know I'm not the only looney gay who has some curiosity of the Freemasons...


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    Apr 09, 2011 9:39 AM GMT
    I am happy to admit that I am a master mason and its interesting to note other gay guys comments on the subject, kissing on the anus, well I havent experienced that in lodge, yet! lol
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    Apr 09, 2011 9:52 AM GMT
    I was raised in a free mason home. My foster father was a master mason and used to go to the meetings very often. I was invited to associate myself with the lodge, but I never got truly interested in doing that. But I always thought freemasonry was a very curious subject of study. And I read as much as I could about it.
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    Apr 09, 2011 10:38 AM GMT
    I'm not a Freemason but my father is an officer of his lodge. I have been to the temple in Alexandria, VA and found it interesting. But it wasn't for me. At least not yet, LOL. I do like the founding principles and what they believe and stand for. I certainly don't think my father is a Satanist and is kissing guys anuses either.
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    Apr 09, 2011 10:44 AM GMT
    Zadokien saidI was raised in a free mason home. My foster father was a master mason and used to go to the meetings very often. I was invited to associate myself with the lodge, but I never got truly interested in doing that. But I always thought freemasonry was a very curious subject of study. And I read as much as I could about it.


    I hope that your time within the home was enjoyable and that you have good memories
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    Apr 09, 2011 10:46 AM GMT
    NoCityGuy saidI'm not a Freemason but my father is an officer of his lodge. I have been to the temple in Alexandria, VA and found it interesting. But it wasn't for me. At least not yet, LOL. I do like the founding principles and what they believe and stand for. I certainly don't think my father is a Satanist and is kissing guys anuses either.


    It is quite interesting that a lot of people confuse lodge with the Orange Lodge which is basically a group of sectarian bigots, freemasons are god loving people and people who think we are satanists just dont understand what its all about! Would your father tell you if he was a bum kisser? lol
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    Apr 09, 2011 10:56 AM GMT
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    NoCityGuy saidI'm not a Freemason but my father is an officer of his lodge. I have been to the temple in Alexandria, VA and found it interesting. But it wasn't for me. At least not yet, LOL. I do like the founding principles and what they believe and stand for. I certainly don't think my father is a Satanist and is kissing guys anuses either.


    It is quite interesting that a lot of people confuse lodge with the Orange Lodge which is basically a group of sectarian bigots, freemasons are god loving people and people who think we are satanists just dont understand what its all about! Would your father tell you if he was a bum kisser? lol


    That's true... but from what I remember, to become a Freemason you only have to believe in GOD...and it doesn't matter what GOD you believe in. And there is a strong philosophy of building a better self in service to your god to better your fellow man.

    As to my father...sadly yes. My father and I are very close and he is extremely open and accepting, left wing liberal, ex-hippy. He would tell me in a heartbeat and laugh about it. :-)
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    Apr 09, 2011 11:00 AM GMT
    correct, you only need to be a person of good moral standing and believe in a supreme being but not in anyway satanic :-)
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    Apr 09, 2011 11:19 AM GMT
    Unfortunately at least here in the USA...many of the loud speaking Evangelicals believe if you are not a hard-core conservative Christian, well, You're a Satanist. And the Evangelicals scream so loud that they drown out the voices of the sane. Lest they forget that the USA was not founded on there principles as they like to claim, but those of the Protestants sects. I don't know of any Mormons, Baptists, or Pentecostals that came over on the Mayflower. And there the ones screaming loudly that Freemasons are Satanists.
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    Apr 09, 2011 11:38 AM GMT
    and also the fact that the signatories of the declaration of independence where in fact freemasons
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    Apr 10, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    I know of one other Freemaison Holyrood, He's a Brit too actually. It does sound interesting. And if you need some help w/ the kissing on the bumm let me know, I'll got to the lodge with you. I can't promise I wouldn't go for the french kiss. HAHAHAHAicon_twisted.gif
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    Apr 10, 2011 12:33 AM GMT
    My knowledge of the freemasons or simply the Masons comes from my childhood when I was growing up. I know more about the Order of the Eastern Star than I do about Masonry After my parent's divorce, my mom and I moved in with her parents. Both were active members of their sects. But there were more women in my family involved in and holding high office positions with the Order of the Eastern Star than the men in the Masons. Being raised in the south, I knew that, at least in the South Carolina and surrounding southern areas, the masons were divided along racial lines that go all the way back to emancipation. My grandfather, being the father of 3 girls, did not really talk about Masonry with his 5 grandsons and I was the only one who seemed interested in it to him. The granddaughters did begin to go towards the eastern star realm, but lost interest when we all grew up and went off to school. I do remember, as a kid, being fascinated with all the secrecy and pomp & circumstance surrounding the groups.
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    Apr 10, 2011 7:35 AM GMT
    My grandfather was a free mason.
    I should do some research and see what it was all about.
    And, my grandmother was a member of the auxiliary (The Order of the Eastern Star ?)
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    Apr 10, 2011 7:48 AM GMT
    Well, your grandfather would have to have been a master freemason in order for your grandmother to be considered for membership in the Order of the Eastern Star.
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    Apr 10, 2011 8:11 AM GMT
    DodgedBullet saidOn the Anti-Gay forums that I post at they believe that Freemasonry and Homosexuality (male) has a link. It's not meant to be a positive link though. They believe that they have underground sex orgies and Satanic rituals and are trying to promote Homosexuality to the good ol' Heterosexual citizens of America.


    Is this for real? Anyone else care to comment on this?
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    Apr 10, 2011 8:12 AM GMT
    NCReal06 saidI know of one other Freemaison Holyrood, He's a Brit too actually. It does sound interesting. And if you need some help w/ the kissing on the bumm let me know, I'll got to the lodge with you. I can't promise I wouldn't go for the french kiss. HAHAHAHAicon_twisted.gif


    let me arrange that bum-kissing ritual :-p
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    Apr 10, 2011 8:16 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidMy knowledge of the freemasons or simply the Masons comes from my childhood when I was growing up. I know more about the Order of the Eastern Star than I do about Masonry After my parent's divorce, my mom and I moved in with her parents. Both were active members of their sects. But there were more women in my family involved in and holding high office positions with the Order of the Eastern Star than the men in the Masons. Being raised in the south, I knew that, at least in the South Carolina and surrounding southern areas, the masons were divided along racial lines that go all the way back to emancipation. My grandfather, being the father of 3 girls, did not really talk about Masonry with his 5 grandsons and I was the only one who seemed interested in it to him. The granddaughters did begin to go towards the eastern star realm, but lost interest when we all grew up and went off to school. I do remember, as a kid, being fascinated with all the secrecy and pomp & circumstance surrounding the groups.


    Its is quite sad that within our progressive society that women are still forbidden to become freemasons. The Eastern Star was the 'ladies' equivalent especially here within the UK.

    There has only ever been 1 true female mason and that was in Ireland.

    The story states that Lord Doneraile held Lodge meetings at Doneraile Court from time to time. On one occasion (c.1712), some building work had been partially completed whereby two rooms were to be connected by an arch. Lord Doneraile and other masons held a meeting in one of the rooms not realising that Elizabeth was in the other room having fallen asleep whilst reading. The sound of voices awakened her and, her curiosity aroused, she removed a loose brick in the wall and observed the proceedings. It is reported a staff member discovered her. The members of the lodge, under the circumstances, felt they had to initiate her or as others reported, kill her!. At this time, she was a young girl, not more than nineteen years of age.

    She remained an interested member of the order until her death in 1772