Story of Family Butchered by Terrorists Not Politically Correct?

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    Apr 08, 2011 11:58 PM GMT
    This story was reported in some of the "new" media but several friends never heard of it.

    "Two Palestinian terrorists broke into their house at night and stabbed to death the Fogel family – father Udi, 37, mother Ruth, 36, 10-year-old Yoav, 4-year-old Elad, and 3-month-old Hadas – inside their home. Two other children in the house at the time were not hurt in the attack, apparently because the terrorists did not notice them.

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    "The terrorists stabbed the Fogel family's sleeping 3-year-old in the heart and slashed the throat of his 3-month-old sister.

    "The mother, Ruth, came out of the bathroom and was stabbed in the doorway. The evidence shows she tried to fight the terrorists.

    "After that, the terrorists reportedly locked the door of the house and exited through the window.

    "The Fogel's 12-year-old daughter returned home only to find the horrific scene. She reportedly ran out of the house screaming.

    Udi Fogel and his family left Gaza and moved to northern Samaria. Israelis were forced by their government to leave Gaza as part of a "land for peace" deal.

    "In Gaza, a Hamas official applauded the attack, and local residents celebrated the killing of the settlers by handing out candy.

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    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/family_butchered_PnU3b12HF2Xn2M1WxR7WeK#ixzz1Ii3REkCq
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    Apr 11, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
    Almost worse than the murder:

    Poll: One-third of Palestinians support Itamar massacre
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/poll-one-third-of-palestinians-support-itamar-massacre-1.354477
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    Apr 12, 2011 11:07 AM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidAlmost worse than the murder:

    Poll: One-third of Palestinians support Itamar massacre
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/poll-one-third-of-palestinians-support-itamar-massacre-1.354477


    Yes, "It's sick out there...and getting sicker" (Bob Grant)

    BTW, your energetic and rational advocacy on this site is important and impressive.
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    Apr 12, 2011 2:24 PM GMT
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    Caesarea4 saidAlmost worse than the murder:

    Poll: One-third of Palestinians support Itamar massacre
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/poll-one-third-of-palestinians-support-itamar-massacre-1.354477


    Yes, "It's sick out there...and getting sicker" (Bob Grant)

    BTW, your energetic and rational advocacy on this site is important and impressive.


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    This was a terrible event by terrorists, However, the many atrocities and killing misdeeds at the hands of ZIONIST FANATICS who PROMOTE SETTLEMENTS, and DISPLACE PALESTINIANS also PROMOTE AND LEAD TO RETALIATION.

    LEERONS "ENERGETIC" advocacy as you call it, is more like ZIONIST PROPAGANDA TO COVER UP WHAT ZIOINIST FANATICS DO TO PALESTINIANS THAT BRINGS THESE TRAGEDIES ABOUT.

    ITS SICK OUT THERE IS RIGHT !!! DID YOU SEE THAT THE ZIONISTS HAVE BROKEN ALL RECORDS FOR DISPLACING PALESTINIANS AND DESTROYING THEIR HOMES ?? DO THE LIKES OF LIEBERMAN THE HEAD ADVOCATE OF SETTLEMENTS EXPECT REWARDS? KISSES ON HIS FEET FOR SUCH FLAGRANT ABUSES OF HUMAN RIGHTS AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS ? ARE YOU PEOPLE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND CAUSE AND EFFECT, TAKE AN AMERICANS HOME AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, LET ALONE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS THROUGH THE YEARS.
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    Apr 12, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
    I wonder why any of you bother posting on these threads. They are so dreadful. I don't think any of you have a shred of humanity: if you did you would deplore each individual death Israeli and Palestinian alike.

    Only because life in this conflict is so cheap does the all-consuming fire continue to burn.
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    Apr 12, 2011 2:42 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI wonder why any of you bother posting on these threads. They are so dreadful. I don't think any of you have a shred of humanity: if you did you would deplore each individual death Israeli and Palestinian alike.

    Only because life in this conflict is so cheap does the all-consuming fire continue to burn.


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    Thats exactly why I choose to give tit for tat to expose LEERONS ZIONIST PROPAGANDIST efforts to cover up the inhumane wrongs from the ZIONIST FANATIC LEADERSHIP OF ISRAEL COMMITTING MANY A CONTINUAL ATROCITY AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS, THEY CAUSE THE PROBLEM BUT YELL LOUDEST WITH PROPAGANDA TO COVER IT OVER AND GET THE ATTENTION OFF THEIR MANY MISDEEDS AND ON THE PALESTINIAN OCCASSIONAL RETALIATION>
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    Apr 12, 2011 2:55 PM GMT
    JockFever, is it true that you believe in and follow the teaching of HAGEE who believes its our US duty as a christian nation to do what Israel wants regarding settlements and taking more palestinian land ?

    Is it true that you are a believer in HAGEE's teachings that gods new jerusalem will be built in this 'earthly' Jerusalem, so we must let them have all of it or suffer gods retribution in the form of natural desasters and that some have already happened ?

    HAGEE also teaches that it is our duty to hasten this return, even if in the process "ARMAGEDDON" (the great conflagration in the middle east) takes place. Do you believe in this too ?

    LEERON (C4) Calls people of this belief system 'USEFULL IDIOTS", that is one thing I agree with him on.
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    Apr 12, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
    realifedad said
    jockfever said
    Caesarea4 saidAlmost worse than the murder:

    Poll: One-third of Palestinians support Itamar massacre
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/poll-one-third-of-palestinians-support-itamar-massacre-1.354477


    Yes, "It's sick out there...and getting sicker" (Bob Grant)

    BTW, your energetic and rational advocacy on this site is important and impressive.


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    This was a terrible event by terrorists, However, the many atrocities and killing misdeeds at the hands of ZIONIST FANATICS who PROMOTE SETTLEMENTS, and DISPLACE PALESTINIANS also PROMOTE AND LEAD TO RETALIATION.

    LEERONS "ENERGETIC" advocacy as you call it, is more like ZIONIST PROPAGANDA TO COVER UP WHAT ZIOINIST FANATICS DO TO PALESTINIANS THAT BRINGS THESE TRAGEDIES ABOUT.

    ITS SICK OUT THERE IS RIGHT !!! DID YOU SEE THAT THE ZIONISTS HAVE BROKEN ALL RECORDS FOR DISPLACING PALESTINIANS AND DESTROYING THEIR HOMES ?? DO THE LIKES OF LIEBERMAN THE HEAD ADVOCATE OF SETTLEMENTS EXPECT REWARDS? KISSES ON HIS FEET FOR SUCH FLAGRANT ABUSES OF HUMAN RIGHTS AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS ? ARE YOU PEOPLE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND CAUSE AND EFFECT, TAKE AN AMERICANS HOME AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, LET ALONE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS THROUGH THE YEARS.


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    Hijacking another thread to attack c4 and promote your bullshit support of people who brutally murder children? That's low...even for people like you!

    'nuff said!
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    Apr 12, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
    Are you blind and cannot read either ?? My first words were "THIS WAS A TERRIBLE EVENT", Somehow you also missed that not once did I excuse that terrible event as anything other than terrible. Referenceing continuous acts by the ZIONIST FANATICS leading to "RETALIATION" did not suggest the terrible event was in any way excuseable.


    If its OK for the RJ ZIONIST PROPAGANDIST TO CONSTANTLY POST TO GET THE ATTENTION OFF ISRAELI ZIONIST FANATIC ATROCITIES AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS, THEN ITS JUSTIFIED, THAT HIS HYPOCRICY BE EXPOSED AT THE SAME FREQUENCY, THAT's FAIR ISN'T IT ?

    THIS MAY NOT BE AIPAC IN THE USA, BUT HIS TACTICS HERE ARE A CLOSE SECOND AND I AM NOT A US POLITICIAN SO I HAVE NO CONSTRAINTS ON EXPOSING THIS OBNOXIOUS IDIOT.
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    Apr 12, 2011 3:26 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI wonder why any of you bother posting on these threads. They are so dreadful. I don't think any of you have a shred of humanity: if you did you would deplore each individual death Israeli and Palestinian alike.

    Only because life in this conflict is so cheap does the all-consuming fire continue to burn.


    couldn't have said this better!
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    Apr 12, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    Its a shame that the worst aggressors are at the head of Israel and yet they are the ones that keep the poor poor pitiful me mantra, going through constant propaganda to cover their atrocities, their own actions bring on the isolation, the hate and the terrible tragic occassional retalitation.

    Those Zionist Fanatic leaders don't want the truth out or it would expose that their actions bring on these retaliations, the average jewish person is in no way responsible for those atrocities, they should call out for their government to stop the settlements, stop killing Palestinians who happen to be near or rightfully protesting the loss of their homes, stop the inhumane check point atrocities, stop the inprisonment of the Gazans, don't kill people trying to bring aid to them, then spread Propaganda to try to make those killings to look right.
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    Apr 13, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    Note that this attack isn't one-of-a-kind. Just last week, an anti-tank weapon was fired at a school bus (not the first time a school bus was attacked, either). Then there was a very similar attack in Kibbutz Metzer (after murdering their mother as she was reading bed-time stories to her children, a guy named Sirhan Sirhan shot dead 4 and 5 year old children as they cowered in bed under a blanket that could not protetct them from this real life monster). Look up Shalhevet Pass, an infant shot in the head by a sniper while sleeping in her crib. In the 1970s there was the massacre of 22 children at Maalot. And this just off the top of my head.

    http://www.jeffjacoby.com/8929/murder-at-a-kibbutz
    It was the usual Palestinian boilerplate, routinely trotted out by those who see heroism in the murder of children. Meanwhile, the official Voice of Palestine Radio aired a report hailing the "operation" in Kibbutz Metzer, which it described as "a colony north of Tulkarm," an Arab city on the West Bank.

    But Metzer isn't a "colony" or a "settlement," and it isn't in the West Bank. Nor is it populated by hawkish Israeli hardliners. ...Metzer is located inside Israel proper. It is as well known for its dovish politics as for its friendly ties with neighboring Arabs, many of whom streamed into the kibbutz on Monday to offer condolences. In recent months, Metzer residents had even lobbied against a proposed government security fence out of concern that it would cut through olive groves owned by the nearby Arab village of Qafin.

    Some of Metzer's doves are trying to convince themselves that their kibbutz was targeted because of its politics. "It was a planned and deliberate attack on the idea of peace," said Dov Avital, a longtime resident, "because that is what Metzer stands for."

    It might be comforting to think so. But the raw truth is that the massacre in Metzer was an attack not on the idea of peace, but on the idea of Israel.

    It was no accident that the terrorists' statement identified Metzer as a "settlement." To Fatah and the Tanzim, to Arafat and Hamas, every Jewish community in Israel is a "settlement," not just those located in the territories Israel seized in self-defense during the 1967 Six Day War. When the Palestine Liberation Organization was founded in 1964, it was not in order to create a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza, which were then occupied by Jordan and Egypt respectively. The PLO's mission, then as now, was to "liberate" all of Israel, expel the Jews, and replace it with a new Arab state called Palestine.

    ...A poll on one of the al-Fatah web sites, Fateh.org, asks visitors whether they favor "martyrdom attacks" -- that is, terror attacks -- (a) within Israel proper, (b) within the 1967 territories only, (c) within both, or (d) not at all. As of midday Wednesday, 6.9 percent of respondents had chosen (a), 12.5 percent (b), and 69.1 percent (c). Only 11.6 percent favored an end to anti-Israel terrorism altogether. (Translation courtesy of the Israel Resource News Agency.)

    It has never been about the 1967 territories. From the maps on its walls to the textbooks in its schools to the broadcasts on its airwaves, the Palestinian Authority, like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, has always made clear that it craves much more. Arafat's war is not for a state in which Arabs can live beside their Jewish neighbors. It is for their Jewish neighbors' state. For all of it -- including Kibbutz Metzer.
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    Apr 13, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    The Israeli government immediately exploited the atrocity to announce the construction of 500 new houses for settlers.

    source: http://original.antiwar.com/hacohen/2011/03/15/chronicles-of-death/
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    Apr 13, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    Foreign worker may have committed murders.

    see: http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212115
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    Apr 13, 2011 6:53 PM GMT
    (1) The ZIONIST PROPAGANDIST C4 HAS YET TO ANSER QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THE ISREALI SOLDIER THUGS KILLED 9 PEOPLE INCLUDING ONE AMERICAN ON TH FLOTILLA.

    (2) THE SAME ZIONIST FANATIC (C4) HAS REFUSED TO ANSWER AS TO WHY PROTESTERS NEAR SETTLEMENTS WHERE PALESTNIANS LOST THEIR HOMES WERE SHOT DEAD, BEAT AND KNOCKED AROUND

    (3) THIS ZIONIST APOLOGIST REFUSES TO ANSWER WHY A WOMAN GETS KNOCKED AROUND,SLAPPED, PUSHED AND HAS TO ENDURE WATCHING THE SAME OR WORSE TO THEIR HUSBANDS AND YOUNG SONS, CHILDREN ARE WATCHING THIS>

    (4) THIS ZIONIST BACKER OF LEIBERMAN WHO IS THE MAIN ADJITATOR FOR TEARING DOWN MORE AND MORE HOUSES OF PALESTINIANS AND BUILDING MORE SETTLEMENTS, REFUSES TO DISCUSS THAT THESE ACTIONS DO NOT CONSTITUTE NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE PALESTINIANS.
    (he did offer 'EXTRA CREDIT" for anyone considering who wastrying to benefit more from the settlement issue, the Palestinians or the Israeli's)

    (5) THIS ZIONIST LIAR KEEPS UP THE TYPICAL AIPAC TACTIC TO KEEP THE ATTENTION ON THE PALESTINIANS (few and far between violent retaliations)SO THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH ATROCITIES MANY TIMES THE VOLUME OF THOSE AT THE HANDS OF THE PALESTINIAN RETALIATIONS. THIS UNBALANCED ZIONIST REFUSES TO DISCUSS THAT THE FACT IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY MORE KILLINGS OF PALESTINIANS AND NEIGHBORING ARABIC PEOPLE FROM THE ISRAELI ZIONISTS THEN THE REVERSE. HE ALSO REFUSES TO DISCUSS OR ADMIT THAT ZIONIST ACTIONS HAVE BROUGHT ON THE RETALIATIONS. HE JUST LABLES IT AS HATE AND ANTI SEMITISM WHILE IGNORING THE NATURAL REACTION TO ABUSE IS TO RETALIATE.

    THIS ZIONIST IS NOT CREDIBLE UNTILL HE RESPONDS, WE ARE WAITING LEERON , WHERE ARE THE ANSWERS COMING FROM YOU ?? NO PROPAGANDA, JUST FACTS PLEASE !!!
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    Apr 13, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    tokugawa saidThe Israeli government immediately exploited the atrocity to announce the construction of 500 new houses for settlers.

    As if the cold blooded murder of children and babies is even remotely the moral equivalent of building houses (on land privately owned by Jews).


    tokugawa saidForeign worker may have committed murders.

    Ah, the usual idiocy-for-the-cause.

    The Jerusalem Post article in tokugawa's link isn't reporting this (as tokugawa hopes to mislead), but that PA news sources said so. He attemps to give his propaganda false credibility by claiming jpost as the source.

    Beyond that, said article is from a month ago.
    tokugawa prefers to promulgate rumors from 4 weeks ago than present current data.
    Why would that be? Integrity to the cause rather than to the truth?

    As per news articles from this week, Israeli police are closing in on a terrorist gang in the neighboring village of Awarta:

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-on-verge-of-breakthrough-in-probe-into-itamar-massacre-1.355354?localLinksEnabled=false

    Even in the unlikely case that this was not a terror attack, nothing can explain away the fact that the Palestinian Arabs celebrated the murders and that 32% of the Palestinian Arabs support it.
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    Apr 13, 2011 11:49 PM GMT
    Well above here is our chief ZIONIST LIAR FOR HIS FANATICAL CAUSE (C4) stretching every situation into some tortured version of ZIONISTS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT EVEN WHEN STEALING LAND, DSPLACING PALESTINIANS AND KILLING PALESTINIANS IF THEY GET TOO CLOSE TO THE ZIOINIST SETTLEMENTS.

    GOD IT MUST BE GOOD IN A TWISTED WAY, TO BE A ZIONIST FANATIC WITH A MAGIC PROPAGANDA WAND TO MAKE WRONG RIGHT. THIS C4 ZIONIST AND HIS BUDDY ZIONIST LIEBERMAN CAN SLEEP SO GOOD WHILE MAKING EXCUSES FOR MISTREATING PALESTINIAN FAMILIES BY KICKING THEM OFF THEIR LAND, DESTROYING THEIR HOMES AND REBUILDING ANOTHER ONE FOR A FELLOW ZIONIST SETTLER, YOU KNOW ZIONISTS FEEL SO GOOD PROVIDING HOMES FOR JEWISH SETTLERS WHO HAD BEEN DISPLACED FROM RUSSIA OR SOME OTHER LOCATION, (it never occurs to these ZIONISTS that two wrongs don't make a right)


    NOW C4. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I ASKED ABOVE ? IF YOUR NOT AFRAID TO THAT IS, I KNOW IT WILL BURST YOUR ZIONIST PROPAGANDA BUBBLE TO ADMIT ANY WRONDOING BY ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS BUT GIVE IT A TRY,
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    Apr 14, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    jockfever saidStory of Family Butchered by Terrorists Not Politically Correct?

    Back on topic: Perhaps it's less an issue of political correctness preventing such stories from receiving much mainstream media coverage as it is the perpetuation of double standards.
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    Apr 14, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
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    jockfever saidStory of Family Butchered by Terrorists Not Politically Correct?

    Back on topic: Perhaps it's less an issue of political correctness preventing such stories from receiving much mainstream media coverage as it is the perpetuation of double standards.


    Yes !! the double standard brought on by AIPAC's influence to keep atrocities commited by the ZIONIST FANATICS against the Palesitinians and only exposing those committed by supposed Palestinians. A Google search shows many more times the acts of violence from the Zionist Fanatic regime against the Palestinians than the reverse.

    Its a shame that the Main Stream Media allows itself to print biased stories at the behest of AIPAC. Join us in calling them out for it !!
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    Apr 14, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
    That's one interpretation. Does anyone else have another?
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    Apr 14, 2011 6:23 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidThat's one interpretation. Does anyone else have another?


    Do the GOOGLE !!!! Then facts become indisputable and interpretation doesn't apply. ISRALEI ZIONISTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FAR MORE DEATHS OF PALESTINIANS THAN THE REVERSE, But ZIONIST PROPAGANDA HAS COVERED IT UP AND AIPAC HAS HELPED DO THE DEED OF COVERUPS HERE IN THE US !!!

    Don't take my word for anything, look it up yourself, look up the information the red cross has, look up the information the UN and EU have and then don't be surprized as to why all but usually under 10 in the UN vote to continue the long standing illegality of the settlements. (yes the weak knee'd Obama strained at the wording under pressure from AIPAC this last vote, but the point remains with the resolution)

    GOOGLE THESE THINGS, then don't come back with ZIONIST talking points because all they are is ZIONIST PROPAGANDA TO COVER THE TRUTH.
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    Apr 15, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
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    tokugawa saidThe Israeli government immediately exploited the atrocity to announce the construction of 500 new houses for settlers.

    As if the cold blooded murder of children and babies is even remotely the moral equivalent of building houses (on land privately owned by Jews).


    The construction of housing for settlers is illegal under the Geneva Conventions: An occupying power is prohibited from moving its population into the area it occupies.

    The construction of housing prevents peace talks, since the PA boycotts talks while Israel illegally builds housing for settlers.

    The construction of housing for settlers is against the foreign policy of the United States.

    What other country in the world could defy the U.S. and still get BILLIONS of dollars in U.S. military aid? With the money Israel would have spent on defense were it not for the BILLIONS in U.S. aid, Israel finances more illegal housing.

    YOUR US TAXPAYER DOLLARS AT WORK, PREVENTING PEACE.
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    Apr 15, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
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    tokugawa saidForeign worker may have committed murders.

    Ah, the usual idiocy-for-the-cause.

    Ah, the usual knee-jerk response by c4: Palestinians always bad, Israeli always good. As per c4 policy, insults and name calling included.

    Here is the article from Jerusalem Post, which c4 would like everybody to ignore, because anything coming from a Palestinian is automatically false, unless that Palestinian says something which supports Israel, then it is automatically true, at least according to c4:

    'Itamar killings carried out by foreign worker'
    By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
    03/14/2011 19:19

    News sites affiliated with PA cast doubt about Israeli claims that Palestinains were behind killings, says IDF arrested Thai worker.

    A number of news Web sites that are affiliated with the Palestinian Authority claimed on Monday that the Itamar killings were committed by a foreign worker who was employed in the settlement.

    PA-controlled media outlets also highlighted the story and continued to cast doubt about Israeli claims that Palestinians were behind the killings.

    The Bethlehem-based news agency Ma’an, which is close to the PA leadership, ran a lead news story that claimed that a Thai worker had been arrested by the IDF on suspicion of killing the five members of the Fogel family on Friday night.

    The agency did not say how it obtained the information. However, it said that shortly after the killings, Israeli security forces arrested all the Thai workers who were inside the settlement.

    Ma’an pointed out that no Palestinian group had claimed responsibility for the attack and that Palestinians were banned from entering settlements.

    Another Palestinian news agency, Qudsnet, claimed that an Asian man who used to work for the Fogel family was behind the killings.

    Quoting a Palestinian family living in the nearby village of Awarta, the agency said that the family members were slaughtered because the father refused to pay the Asian worker his salary, which is estimated at 10,000 Shekels.

    The latest claims came as PA President Mahmoud Abbas, in an interview with Kol Yisrael, condemned the Itamar killings as “despicable, immoral and inhuman.”Abbas said that a “human being is not capable of something like that.” He said that had the PA had advance information, “we would have prevented this.”

    Offering to help Israel in the investigation, Abbas rejected accusations of incitement and said he was prepared to be part of an Israeli-American-Palestinian committee to look into the allegations.


    source: http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212115

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    tokugawa saidThe Israeli government immediately exploited the atrocity to announce the construction of 500 new houses for settlers.

    As if the cold blooded murder of children and babies is even remotely the moral equivalent of building houses (on land privately owned by Jews).


    tokugawa saidForeign worker may have committed murders.

    Ah, the usual idiocy-for-the-cause.

    The Jerusalem Post article in tokugawa's link isn't reporting this (as tokugawa hopes to mislead), but that PA news sources said so. He attemps to give his propaganda false credibility by claiming jpost as the source.

    Beyond that, said article is from a month ago.
    tokugawa prefers to promulgate rumors from 4 weeks ago than present current data.
    Why would that be? Integrity to the cause rather than to the truth?

    As per news articles from this week, Israeli police are closing in on a terrorist gang in the neighboring village of Awarta:

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-on-verge-of-breakthrough-in-probe-into-itamar-massacre-1.355354?localLinksEnabled=false

    Even in the unlikely case that this was not a terror attack, nothing can explain away the fact that the Palestinian Arabs celebrated the murders and that 32% of the Palestinian Arabs support it.


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    THE LIEING ZIONIST FANATIC SPREADS MORE PROPAGANDA FOR HIS CAUSE AND EXCORIATES ATEMPTS AT TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH OUT THAT DEBUNKS HIS LIES

    TAKE A LOOK AT THE ARTICLE ====== MEDIA OMISSIONS ON ITAMAR on the site "IF AMERICANS KNEW"

    HERE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OUR C4 ZIONIST PROPAGANDIST DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW.BECAUSE THEY DO NOT FIT INTO ESRAELS ZIONISTS ALWAYS BEING IN THE RIGHT here are the highlights.


    (1) A foreign worker had previously threatened this family over upaid wages as some reports from the area suggest.

    (2) "The location of the murders is in Itimar, an illegal Jewish settlement on stolen Palestinian land in the midst of refugies whom Israel pushed off their ancestral land through massacres and ruthless military actions"

    (3) "Not mentioned (in US Media) are the frequency with which Israeli settlers beat, occasionally torture, and sometimes murder Palestinians of all ages, burn their crops, and hack down their groves of olive trees, the lievelyhood of many Palestinian Villagers, hundreds of these trees have been destroyed by rampaging Israeli settlers"

    (4) Itimar is settled by Jewish Fanatick Extremists "whom believe that the killing of non-jewish infants is religiously permitted and sometimes mandated" Next door to the home where this murder was committed is the house of followers of "Manechum Schneerson, known for his astoundingly supremacist teachings" he is "widely revered by such settlers (and his followers in the US), many believed him to have been the Messiah" A quote from his teachings "the body of a jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of all nations of the world....A non-Jew's entire reality is only vanity...THE ENTIRE CREATION (of a non-Jew) EXISTS ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF THE JEWS" With this mindset in the background, who knows what may have taken place previous to these murders and who know who these fanatical settlers toes they may have stepped on, the possiblity of unpaid wages could well be non related at all to Palestinians conducting this murder.


    Please note that none of these facts would be nor are being suggested as an excuse for a terrible crime. but these facts should be put out so the public knows the full story, not just part of it that fits into ZIONIST FANATIC PROPAGANDA to support hate for the PALESTINIANS as the problem rather than the facts of it more than likely being a problem brought on by the
    family's fanaticism


    Please read the rest of the article that details how much information is kept from the American Public because it doesn't fit what the ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS want known, for instance that since 2000 90 Palestinian children were killed prior to the first Israeli child killed. DID OUR MEDIA REPORT THIS ???? NO IT DID NOT !!!.
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    Apr 15, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
    This was a horrible, tragic event and it disturbs me to see so many people politicizing it with their own biased views of Israel and Palestinians and the middle east. For all the above people who have been retaliating and battling over this centuries old debate, how many of you actually live in the region? Why do you care so much? I think that this obsession with the conflict in the middle east is sharply over exaggerated and it detracts attention needed from real and more pressing issues such as Darfur, Tibet and many others.
    To the man who previously posted, I see you are constantly framing your arguments to hate on Zionists. Do you even know what Zionism is? Where it comes from? Have you ever met a Zionist? In real life, I'm not talking about the internet. Have you ever had a calm conversation with someone without an agenda about the issues without so much hatred?
    I believe that in terms of this conflict, hate and bitterness only exacerbate tensions and do no good. I believe that both sides have committed serious offences and trying to discern which one wronged the other first is not constructive.
    Yes, Israel needs to return some land to the Palestinians but I also believe that the Palestinians need to collaborate in order to allow Israel to negotiate with some sort of consensus. If anyone wants to talk about politics or the middle east with me, I would be happy to provided that the conversation is CONSTRUCTIVE and CALM and CIVIL.