National Organization for Marriage Strategist Realizes He’s Actually Pro-Gay Marriage

  • dglater

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    Apr 10, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/04/gay_marriage.html

    National Organization for Marriage(NOM) has been fairly aggressive on this issue, and it must feel like a huge blow to them.
    Great News!
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    Apr 10, 2011 4:25 PM GMT
    What a great thing to see a blow to NOM. Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper both need to have this man on their shows and give this some more exposure.
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    Apr 10, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
    Iceblink saidWhat a great thing to see a blow to NOM. Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper both need to have this man on their shows and give this some more exposure.


    You know I wouldn't mind if he appeared on Fox News either, Bill O' has several times express that he is more or less in favor on gay marriage, we need the right to drop Gay as an Issue.
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    Apr 10, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
    dglater said
    Iceblink saidWhat a great thing to see a blow to NOM. Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper both need to have this man on their shows and give this some more exposure.


    You know I wouldn't mind if he appeared on Fox News either, Bill O' has several times express that he is more or less in favor on gay marriage, we need the right to drop Gay as an Issue.



    O'Relly's support of gay marriage is kind of sketchy. His own words-

    http://billoreilly.com/column?pid=26610
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    Apr 10, 2011 4:46 PM GMT

    "I was largely taken aback by the fact that the [anti-gay marriage Facebook] page I created had become such a hateful place. My comments and rhetoric paled in comparison to what that place had turned into. I began to understand why the gay community was out there claiming opposition to same-sex civil marriage was all about hate.

    I soon realized that there I was surrounded by hateful people. Once you understand the great difference between civil marriage and holy marriage, there is not one valid reason to forbid the former from same-sex couples, and all that is left to protect is the latter. Indeed Christians and Catholics alike are well within their right to demand that holy matrimony, a sacrament and service performed by the Church and recognized by the Church, remains between a man and a woman as their faith would dictate. However, that has nothing to do with civil marriage, performed and recognized by the State in accordance with state law. My name is Louis J. Marinelli, a conservative-Republican and I now support full civil marriage equality. The constitution calls for nothing less."


    ...which is how it is in Canada.
  • dglater

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    Apr 10, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    Iceblink said
    dglater said
    Iceblink saidWhat a great thing to see a blow to NOM. Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper both need to have this man on their shows and give this some more exposure.


    You know I wouldn't mind if he appeared on Fox News either, Bill O' has several times express that he is more or less in favor on gay marriage, we need the right to drop Gay as an Issue.



    O'Relly's support of gay marriage is kind of sketchy. His own words-

    http://billoreilly.com/column?pid=26610


    I think he still has to appeal to his audience rather then to justice, the audience buys him bread not justice, his opinion publicly will shift with america, thats why i think the guy from the NOM should appear on his show.
  • needleninja

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    Apr 10, 2011 6:57 PM GMT
    this shall spread to the internetz :^
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    Apr 10, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
    But eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"
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    Apr 10, 2011 7:56 PM GMT
    He makes me think of the recent episode on CHAOS (on Fox!) that has a North Korean diplomat who dozed off during a conference, and got woken up by applause, which he joined in so that nobody would notice he fell asleep. Problem was, the applause was for a condemnation of North Korea.
    He and his wife had to be rescued by the team. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 10, 2011 8:01 PM GMT
    True_Blue_Aussie saidBut eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"



    Oh yes, poor you who's always whining about being attacked. Then you state this to all the married gay people on here.

    So, you stupid little fucktard, consider yourself slapped right back.

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    Apr 10, 2011 8:06 PM GMT
    Ewww- he's fat.

    Oh well. icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 10, 2011 9:11 PM GMT
    A1EX saidEwww- he's fat.

    Oh well. icon_sad.gif
    Who auusie pattison?

    LMAO dont need to be 'fat' to get anyone to 'ewww' him.
  • danielek

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    Apr 10, 2011 9:18 PM GMT
    I pity the gays against gay marriage. I can't think of a sadder group.
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    Apr 10, 2011 9:41 PM GMT
    True_Blue_Aussie saidBut eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"


    Your posts are a confused mess and this is no different.
    Couldn't you take your own advice. You dismiss the gays and lesbians that want to get married then finish the post asking "where is the love?" Where indeed.

    Since it doesn't seem clear to you, a gay marriage law DOES NOT force gay people to get married. It makes marriage between two people of the same sex a legal option.
    Sheesh!

    Edit: Regarding the news, that's great!
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    Apr 10, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
    That's fine that he's not for gay marriage, but that doesn't mean gays shouldn't be able to marry, just that they shouldn't have to if they don't want to.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Apr 11, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    I read the article he posted on his webpage:

    http://louisjmarinelli.com/politics/i-now-support-full-marriage-equality

    He only have 300 likes on his FaceBook page he touts here. I am wondering if this guy is really such a big shot.
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    Apr 11, 2011 9:36 PM GMT
    LanceKC saidI read the article he posted on his webpage:

    http://louisjmarinelli.com/politics/i-now-support-full-marriage-equality

    He only have 300 likes on his FaceBook page he touts here. I am wondering if this guy is really such a big shot.


    Just as I said, his situation is much like the North Korean diplomat's.
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    Apr 11, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
    Well I feel it shows strength of character to admit to being wrong and reverse coarse. I'm more than willing to forgive.

    He hits on why I, who will never marry, am still quite emotional about the opposition. I don't like how it is used to stir up the bigots as he eventually came to understand.
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    Apr 11, 2011 9:57 PM GMT
    This is great news!
  • neosyllogy

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    Apr 11, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    True_Blue_Aussie saidBut eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"



    Oh yes, poor you who's always whining about being attacked. Then you state this to all the married gay people on here.

    So, you stupid little fucktard, consider yourself slapped right back.



    Whoah, whoah, whoah.
    Language.
    Kindness.
    C'mon, that's out of character for you mil.
    tba is clearly 'not well' (in fact, he seems to have gotten much worse lately, I'm kind of worries about him - I don't know if he has a social/medical network that would recognize the onset of, for instance, stroke or other treatable illnesses).

    Regardless, no need to be giving in to hate. (Possible trolling aside) He's just a few short of a dozen, gentleness is generally preferred, but particularly in these sorts of cases.

    Cool story OP, BTW. There's something especially refreshing about people changing their minds due to new evidence/perspective. Gives a bit more hope. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 11, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    neosyllogy said
    meninlove said
    True_Blue_Aussie saidBut eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"



    Oh yes, poor you who's always whining about being attacked. Then you state this to all the married gay people on here.

    So, you stupid little fucktard, consider yourself slapped right back.



    Whoah, whoah, whoah.
    Language.
    Kindness.
    C'mon, that's out of character for you mil.
    tba is clearly 'not well' (in fact, he seems to have gotten much worse lately, I'm kind of worries about him - I don't know if he has a social/medical network that would recognize the onset of, for instance, stroke or other treatable illnesses).

    Regardless, no need to be giving in to hate. (Possible trolling aside) He's just a few short of a dozen, gentleness is generally preferred, but particularly in these sorts of cases.

    Cool story OP, BTW. There's something especially refreshing about people changing their minds due to new evidence/perspective. Gives a bit more hope. icon_smile.gif


    Quite frankly, we've had enough. We're married. He insulted us. He also insulted all the married straights we know. He then inferred that we have no love.

    Sorry, we've put up with this crap for nearly 2 years. He calls us Passive and Aggressive. So these Fairy godfathers have merely granted his wish.

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    Apr 12, 2011 7:23 AM GMT
    Still think its silly.

    Why not just get rid of civil marriage entirely ? There is no legal difference between marriage and de facto marriage anymore.

    If the Churches want marriage, let them have it.
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    Apr 12, 2011 9:09 AM GMT
    True_Blue_Aussie saidBut eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"


    It IS about the love, silly. How would you feel if your loved one was dying, and you were not allowed to be in his hospital room with him because you were not legally considered to be family?

    Rights matter. They matter considerably more than your personal "eww" reaction at having something in common with heterosexuals.
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    meninlove said
    True_Blue_Aussie saidBut eww why would any self respecting homosexual or lesbian want to get married anyways, as it's just so heterosexual. One can understand why our half brothers the bisexuals may do so, but us; eww marriage, it's so heterosexual, and that we are not; even half.

    I know, for some marriage is nothing more than about benefits, then I have too ask: "where is the love?"



    Oh yes, poor you who's always whining about being attacked. Then you state this to all the married gay people on here.

    So, you stupid little fucktard, consider yourself slapped right back.



    Although a rare occasion since you two are gentlemen, I love it when you boys get rough like that!