Kobe Bryant - "F--KIN F-G"

  • metta

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    Apr 13, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    Kobe Bryant - "F--KIN F-G"




    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kobe-Bryant-Apologize-for-Calling-Referee-Adams-a-F-g/215133991845775?sk=wall
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    Apr 13, 2011 7:10 PM GMT
    And here is the HRC backstory:

    http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2011/04/hrc-calls-out-kobe-bryant-for-apparent-use-of-homophobic-slur1/
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    Apr 13, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    Kobe Bryant's Rant Under NBA Review

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/13/kobe-bryant-homophobic-outburst-under-review-by-nba-officials-los-angeles-lakers-sideline-bench-tantrum/
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    Apr 13, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    Are you fucking serious!? Lots of guys throw out that word (not saying its right) but they don't mean anything homophobic by it. Its just a word they use as a common insult.


    Ive even said it a few times, but i try not to.

    Jesus people....really?!
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    Apr 13, 2011 9:09 PM GMT
    Sylas saidAre you fucking serious!? Lots of guys throw out that word (not saying its right) but they don't mean anything homophobic by it. Its just a word they use as a common insult.


    Uh huh. Nothing homophobic about that at all. icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Apr 13, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    Ben Cohen, Rugby friend to the Tribe weighs in:

    http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2011/04/rugby-superstar-and-straight-ally-ben-cohen-speaks-out-against-kobe-bryants-remarks/
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    Apr 13, 2011 10:34 PM GMT
    Kobe Fined $100k -- 'Offensive and Inexcusable'

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/13/kobe-bryant-david-stern-fined-homophobic-slur-punished-fined/
  • TrentGrad

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    Apr 13, 2011 10:41 PM GMT
    Sylas saidAre you fucking serious!? Lots of guys throw out that word (not saying its right) but they don't mean anything homophobic by it. Its just a word they use as a common insult.


    Ive even said it a few times, but i try not to.

    Jesus people....really?!


    Well then, don't be a hypocrite when someone who doesn't like you calls you that!

    You think Kobe would have a problem if the ref called him the N-word?
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    Apr 13, 2011 10:45 PM GMT
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    WhooahhhhhhhhHHhhhhhooahhHH. CHiiiiiillLLLLLLLLLLLLL out. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLighten up.
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    Apr 13, 2011 10:54 PM GMT
    Sylas saidStuartMadTV.jpg


    WhooahhhhhhhhHHhhhhhooahhHH. CHiiiiiillLLLLLLLLLLLLL out. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLighten up.icon_surprised.gif


    I am entirely chill...and I'd like to be able to remain that way.

    You know what threatens my ability to remain chill? Having my rights frozen or regress because some dumb kid thinks tolerating homophobic slurs from famous athletes is no big deal!

    Just sayin'!

    BTW, you think Kobe would have a problem if the ref called him the N-word?
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    Apr 13, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    You think insulting someone they are gonna respond back to you legit?



    Haha fuck you dude. Have a nice dayicon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 13, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    As a "Heat of the Moment" comment (Kobe's excusplanation, or at least his agent's projected onto Kobe's Twitter), it is akin to saying, "I think you are SO vile, I'll bet you sleep with other men!" Saying he didn't mean for the comment to be directed at LGBTs is insufficient. This is more of the "sorry I got caught... I'll be more careful not to get caught next time... can we move on?" variety of apologies.

    Just like hanging out with other women at ski lodges while married, Kobe Bryant knows better.

    One thing that's wild about our Twitterverse is people no longer need to stand before a mike and a camera to voice apologies for outrageous behaviors and statements. Now, there's time to craft all our mea culpas into 100-word tweets that are somehow supposed to make it all better.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:25 AM GMT
    Well Kobe did issue a statement, but he didn't say he was sorry, but he understood:

    http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2011/04/kobe-bryant-apologizes-for-gay-slur/

    HRC calls on NBA saying Kobe's statement isn't enough. NBA Commissioner issues statement:

    http://www.hrc.org/15504.htm
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:28 AM GMT
    Sylas saidYou think insulting someone they are gonna respond back to you legit?



    Haha fuck you dude. Have a nice dayicon_biggrin.gif


    Actually, I kinda expected you to respond in this way.

    You have a lot of growing up to do!
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:29 AM GMT
    metta8 saidKobe Fined $100k -- 'Offensive and Inexcusable'

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/13/kobe-bryant-david-stern-fined-homophobic-slur-punished-fined/


    What?!
    That's like- like pennies to him.

    Never liked basket ball anyways- no attractive guys. icon_cry.gif
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:30 AM GMT
    Media stirs it up, the gay community latches on and makes a bigger deal than is needed. He did not intend for anyone to hear it and it was in the heat of the moment. He was fine 100,000 dollars, I'm sorry LGBT but that is sufficient. He said he was sorry. Let it be done.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:32 AM GMT
    msuNtx saidMedia stirs it up, the gay community latches on and makes a bigger deal than is needed. He did not intend for anyone to hear it and it was in the heat of the moment. He was fine 100,000 dollars, I'm sorry LGBT but that is sufficient. He said he was sorry. Let it be done.

    Thank you. GLAAD and the HRC are run by incompetent opportunists that need to grow a thicker skin.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:34 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidWell Kobe did issue a statement, but he didn't say he was sorry, but he understood:

    http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2011/04/kobe-bryant-apologizes-for-gay-slur/

    HRC calls on NBA saying Kobe's statement isn't enough. NBA Commissioner issues statement:

    http://www.hrc.org/15504.htm


    It says a couple of times in the first article that he did say he was sorry...though the second article certainly contradicts that.

    But yes, if he's not going to be clear that he's sorry for what he did, and he's going to work hard to avoid it in the future, issuing a statement insinuating that he's sorry doesn't really merit too much consideration!

    I mean, if he says that when the cameras are on him, what does he say when the cameras aren't on him?

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    Apr 14, 2011 1:39 AM GMT
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    ErikTaurean saidWell Kobe did issue a statement, but he didn't say he was sorry, but he understood:

    http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2011/04/kobe-bryant-apologizes-for-gay-slur/

    HRC calls on NBA saying Kobe's statement isn't enough. NBA Commissioner issues statement:

    http://www.hrc.org/15504.htm


    It says a couple of times in the first article that he did say he was sorry...though the second article certainly contradicts that.

    But yes, if he's not going to be clear that he's sorry for what he did, and he's going to work hard to avoid it in the future, issuing a statement insinuating that he's sorry doesn't really merit too much consideration!

    I mean, if he says that when the cameras are on him, what does he say when the cameras aren't on him?



    Who cares. The gay community would be fighting a pointless batlle. They would be destroyed by Kobe Bryant. He is a sports star and Americans idolize sports stars. Now if this was a politician or something, its a different ball-game. They need to learn to choose their battles wisely.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:42 AM GMT
    msuNtx saidMedia stirs it up, the gay community latches on and makes a bigger deal than is needed. He did not intend for anyone to hear it and it was in the heat of the moment. He was fine 100,000 dollars, I'm sorry LGBT but that is sufficient. He said he was sorry. Let it be done.


    But doesn't it bother you that, in the heat of the moment, when he's angry, his insult of choice is a pejorative term used to demean homosexuals...especially given the fact that California did, in the last election, repeal same sex marriage?

    I'm inclined to agree that once he apologizes (or if he has already...it's hard to tell with those two articles), the issue is over with, and it's time to move on...however the fact that he did this in full view of the cameras gives me reason to pause and wonder how often, when the cameras aren't on him, he uses homophobic slurs to malign those he is upset with.

    DodgedBulletThank you. GLAAD and the HRC are run by incompetent opportunists that need to grow a thicker skin.


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    Apr 14, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    Sylas, you pretty much just said it all with one word in your own response. INSULT. That's pretty much what it was and it's something someone in his position should not be carelessly saying.

    I'm sure if someone called you that to your face I doubt you would be so cheery about it. He's a public figure and people cling to his every action especially kids. He's a sports figure so naturally he's very influential and I bet some kid out there somewhere is saying the word right now and not even understanding the seriousness and severity of the word. Him merely apologizing for it doesn't make it go away and it doesn't suggest he won't ever have an outburst like again. Add a nice fine to it and maybe him and other athletes will think twice about the usage of that word and others.

    TrentGrad makes a good. What if someone in the heat of a game called him the N-word. Would it be any different? You'd think he'd be a little more political considering that he plays for a team in state full of gay folk.

    He got fined a little 100k. He got off cheap. He's lucky his career didn't end at that moment. Not that it matters because one more "T" and he'll be suspended.

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    Apr 14, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    This is another reason why we need Diversity Training in all corporations as well as with every single sports franchise.

    And it should be FEDERALLY FUNDED and MANDATED too.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
    msuNtx said Who cares. The gay community would be fighting a pointless batlle. They would be destroyed by Kobe Bryant. He is a sports star and Americans idolize sports stars. Now if this was a politician or something, its a different ball-game. They need to learn to choose their battles wisely.


    So sports stars get a pass, but politicians don't? Typical double standard. Sports stars like Ben Cohen would beg to differ.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:50 AM GMT
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    msuNtx said Who cares. The gay community would be fighting a pointless batlle. They would be destroyed by Kobe Bryant. He is a sports star and Americans idolize sports stars. Now if this was a politician or something, its a different ball-game. They need to learn to choose their battles wisely.


    So sports stars get a pass, but politicians don't? Typical double standard. Sports stars like Ben Cohen would beg to differ.



    Welcome to America. If the sexual assualt case didn't ruin his career this little mishap sure as hell won't. I'm not agreeing with American standards but it happens all the time.
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    Apr 14, 2011 1:54 AM GMT
    His career doesn't need to be ruined. His mouth on the other hand in a public forum needs some lye in it just as it would in politician's mouth on the house or senate floor.