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    Apr 14, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    So I'm actually not that addicted to pop music, the only music that makes me alive/sleepy is Classic-Instrumental. icon_biggrin.gificon_eek.gif...What do u think guys? icon_biggrin.gif









    WHICH ONE IS BETTERRRR!?? XD
  • allanon

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    Apr 14, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    Although I love the Hungarian Rhapsody, I have to say that this performance of the Moonlight sonata is the best. I have known Wilhelm Kempff since I was seven. He is my inspiration for playing piano. He has a very humble interpretation of Beethoven's sonatas, yet ironically, he is at the same time able to extract more emotion and intensity from the music than any modern performer that I have ever heard.
  • tazzari

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    Apr 14, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
    Wilhelm Kempff is superb! The closest thing going now is Paul Lewis. I'm addicted to the Busch Quartet, though the recordings sound rather old. But the Busch and Lewis both play Beethoven as if it MATTERED; if you don't want to live dangerously, don't play Beethoven!

    If classical music makes you sleepy, you must be listening to Delius! icon_biggrin.gif

    Great topic! For me, Pop music is fun, but you can't sink deep, nurturing roots into it, in my opinion. Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Mahler, etc. - these guys were lifting the curtain a little, and looking into something enduring and beyond, and you can come back again and again over a lifetime, and still find something new and rejuvinating.

    Nat
  • allanon

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    Apr 14, 2011 5:20 PM GMT
    tazzari saidWilhelm Kempff is superb! The closest thing going now is Paul Lewis. I'm addicted to the Busch Quartet, though the recordings sound rather old. But the Busch and Lewis both play Beethoven as if it MATTERED; if you don't want to live dangerously, don't play Beethoven!

    If classical music makes you sleepy, you must be listening to Delius! icon_biggrin.gif

    Great topic! For me, Pop music is fun, but you can't sink deep, nurturing roots into it, in my opinion. Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Mahler, etc. - these guys were lifting the curtain a little, and looking into something enduring and beyond, and you can come back again and again over a lifetime, and still find something new and rejuvinating.

    Nat


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyC-Ss2wtc&feature=player_detailpage


    Thank you so very much tazzari for introducing me to Paul Lewis. He is an amazing musician. I looked up his interpretation of the moonlight sonata, and I was blown away by his insights into the spirit of the music. He knows all of the destination points throughout the third movement, and is not afraid to exploit them to the fullest. He is not quite as humble as Kempf in his interpretation, but his outspokenness provides a relief to the music that I have never heard before. One other thing that I noticed between the two players is that Kempf does a better job connecting the different forms within the movement. If you will, his musical sentences are longer, where as for Lewis, he dissects the piece and savors each part separately. Lewis' interpretation is like a French five course meal, whereas Kempf's interpretation is like a Thanksgiving feast, with all of the pieces together. Kempf is the philosopher, Lewis is the tragic comedian. Both have unbelievable wisdom when it comes to music, and they just approach it in different ways.
  • tazzari

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    Apr 14, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    Lewis is young; Kempff had the benefit of many years of experience when he made most of his recordings (I have both his Beethoven cycles!). They both move me. But try to hear Lewis in the Hammerklavier, the last movement: it's dangerous, on-the-brink, no-one-gets-out-of-here-alive playing that I find enormously satisfying.

    Let me quote a review that Thomas Heinitz wrote, in the context of the quartets: "... I really do not think it is possible to do justice to these supreme masterpieces of Beethoven's last period unless you are prepared to live dangerously, that this is what the Busches [ and I'd add. Lewis], to their eternal credit, were always prepared to do."

    "Tragic comedian" is rather profound, I think!

    You and I clearly need to get together for a long evening of music! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 14, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    I was somewhat of a child prodigy starting at the age of five. For years, I studied all of the Bach, Beethoven, Rachmaninoff that I could handle...until I turned 20 and discovered this man:

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    After hearing Satie...my life and taste in music was forever changed.
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    Apr 14, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
    The Bach recording sounds very mastered in the studio in a bad way.

    The Weiniawski is quite good. Vengerov reminds me of Perlman's non-vibrato style playing "when he sees fit".

    I do agree Kempff is humble in interpretation, but it's hard to get the sense of that with only one mvmt. Reminder that op.27 no.2 is middle Beethoven. Form is still very prominent. Beethoven shows this by adding the Trio as a second mvmt.
    -op.27 no.1 shows precedence of his 'attacca' idea and blending mvmts. to create unity in sequential form. A new idea to the classical sonata form. This is how I see op.27 as a group no.1 and no.2 (both were written as fanasias). This puts even more precedence on the fact that one mvmt. cannot stand alone.
    "Only when the form grows clear to you will the spirit become so to." Schumann

    -I've seen so many performances of op.27 no.2 ruined because the Trio was terrible. I'd like to hear the entire piece of Kempff.

    I'm not a fan of Lizst. I rarely find the Hungarian Rhapsodies enjoyable.

    Out of the four choices- Weinawski
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
    deltalimen saidThe Bach recording sounds very mastered in the studio in a bad way.

    The Weiniawski is quite good. Vengerov reminds me of Perlman's non-vibrato style playing "when he sees fit".

    I do agree Kempff is humble in interpretation, but it's hard to get the sense of that with only one mvmt. Reminder that op.27 no.2 is middle Beethoven. Form is still very prominent. Beethoven shows this by adding the Trio as a second mvmt.
    -op.27 no.1 shows precedence of his 'attacca' idea and blending mvmts. to create unity in sequential form. A new idea to the classical sonata form. This is how I see op.27 as a group no.1 and no.2 (both were written as fanasias). This puts even more precedence on the fact that one mvmt. cannot stand alone.
    "Only when the form grows clear to you will the spirit become so to." Schumann

    -I've seen so many performances of op.27 no.2 ruined because the Trio was terrible. I'd like to hear the entire piece of Kempff.

    I'm not a fan of Lizst. I rarely find the Hungarian Rhapsodies enjoyable.

    Out of the four choices- Weinawski


    icon_eek.gificon_eek.gif ..wow....i prefer Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement icon_razz.gif. as for making me sleepy, Moonriver ^_^
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
    Dude where's the Mahler?!?! Symphonies 2 5 and 8 esp?!
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:16 AM GMT
    Brandon112586 saidDude where's the Mahler?!?! Symphonies 2 5 and 8 esp?!


    RAWR!!! Patience!. i only put the songs(in my opinion) that are awesome to me. icon_smile.gif u can place urs here if u want icon_smile.gif.
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
    _L0v3isN0x_ said
    Brandon112586 saidDude where's the Mahler?!?! Symphonies 2 5 and 8 esp?!


    RAWR!!! Patience!. i only put the songs(in my opinion) that are awesome to me. icon_smile.gif u can place urs here if u want icon_smile.gif.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V33JKXnYHtg

    EPIC.
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuEaI6OfT4

    Can't forget this either...
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:24 AM GMT
    Brandon112586 saidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuEaI6OfT4

    Can't forget this either...


    awshum! icon_biggrin.gif :O icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 15, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    More into classical indian myself

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    Apr 15, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
    AWESOME SHIT! :O icon_eek.gificon_eek.gif



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    Apr 15, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    I like a lot of things.

    Bach's Orchestral Suite
    Tchaikovsky's March Slav and Romeo and Juliet
    Schumann's Slumber Song

    And oddly enough- they can go pop. Busdriver's Imaginary Places samples Bach and DJs from Mars mashed Run this Town with Bach's Toccata and Fugue.
  • MagillaNectar

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    Apr 15, 2011 5:36 AM GMT
    This is one of my favorites...

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    Apr 15, 2011 5:39 AM GMT
    Ya'll need more Debussy icon_razz.gif

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    and Stravinsky.

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    Apr 15, 2011 1:19 PM GMT
    Oh I do enjoy this recording of Kempff.
    Brahms makes me cum.

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    Apr 15, 2011 1:25 PM GMT
    deltalimen saidOh I do enjoy this recording of Kempff.
    Brahms makes me cum.


    lol!!!icon_eek.gif