surrounded by future junkies :(

  • northernblood

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    Apr 14, 2011 6:25 PM GMT
    so plenty of my friends are starting to try H, and that is NOT ok by me. My room mate has been doing it on and off for years I think, and stays somewhat responsible with his habit. That doesn't drive me as crazy as him letting people try it. I have known a few friends that have majorly fucked up there lives from it, and those friends were far more responsible than the people trying it these days. I am not going to get new friends, and expressing my concern always lands me the "im fine as long as im not shooting" answer. I know it will only be a matter of time before they lock the door on me and venture down that narrow pathway. Any advice? maybe show them the movie christaine f? I really hate having people sleeping in my apartment till 6pm every day icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 14, 2011 8:01 PM GMT
    My only advice would be to put as much distance as you possibly can between yourself and a bunch of junkies, because when their lives start falling apart, they're going to rob you blind if that's what it takes to get a hit. I recently watched an episode of Ross Kemp: Extreme World about the heroin subculture in Chicago, and it's not pretty.
  • northernblood

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    Apr 14, 2011 8:40 PM GMT
    paradox saidMy only advice would be to put as much distance as you possibly can between yourself and a bunch of junkies, because when their lives start falling apart, they're going to rob you blind if that's what it takes to get a hit. I recently watched an episode of Ross Kemp: Extreme World about the heroin subculture in Chicago, and it's not pretty.

    its a bit more complicated then that, because these are people from my home town, that I grew up with. Most of the situations are cases where our lives are more tangled together. If I just stopped hanging out with them, I am sure I would still see them everywhere.
  • alphatop

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    Apr 15, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    Show them movie "Requiem for a dream".
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    Apr 15, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    I think if they go down that path and you are still around them it will affect your life in negative ways. I know from personal experience getting involved with police searching my shit in the middle of the night for no reason. I would start untangling my life from them now.
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    Apr 16, 2011 2:33 AM GMT
    i have friends like this too. not really a clear answer to how to handle it. they're going to do what they do. i do believe that if it gets bad enough though you'd have to limit their presence in your life.
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    Apr 16, 2011 2:42 AM GMT
    I did the shit daily for three years; it's not cool at all. I hope you are able to be a good friend while still separating yourself enough from the situation that you are not sucked up into a world of drama. Basketball Diaries was always the movie that hit home the hardest for me when I was using.
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    Apr 16, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    Simple answer: can't believe this is causing you grief.... you move out and stop hanging out with them. Easy answer. The whole, "we've known each other, grew up together, we will see each other" excuse is, pardon my French, bullshit. You are who you hang with. If these people don't respect themselves enough to put that shit in there body, they sure as shit won't respect you when push comes to shove. Give it time, keep living there, keep subconsciously condoning their behavior, and being a co-dependent crutch..... soon your stuff, cash, etc will come up missing. Oh, and if your house ever gets raided, then go ahead and prepare for some sweet time in jail.

    Move out, break off the friendship, move in a different and more productive direction in your life. If you see them out it whatever and they're mean or off-putting..... who cares, they're fucking junkies!! How are you even asking this question? First notice of anything like that and I would've had my shit boxed up and gone.
  • BronxvilleNY3...

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    Apr 16, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
    My best friend died of heroin overdose, know I think that was the best for him, the addiction caused him severe heart problems because of intravenous using. He was a great guy, very intelligent, very well educated, professional, but he found on his way a group of acquaintances who changed his life.

    You won’t have anything good from that, stay away from people doing that.
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    Apr 16, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
    I guess I'm lucky, I don't think I've ever been friends with anyone who did heroin... Run away... no freakin' roommate of mine would be allowed to do that shit.
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    Apr 16, 2011 3:16 AM GMT
    Hang around a barbershop long enough...and you'll get a haircut.

    We become more like the company you keep.

    Keep company that is at the very least like that which you wish to become.
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    Apr 16, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
    northernblood said
    paradox saidMy only advice would be to put as much distance as you possibly can between yourself and a bunch of junkies, because when their lives start falling apart, they're going to rob you blind if that's what it takes to get a hit. I recently watched an episode of Ross Kemp: Extreme World about the heroin subculture in Chicago, and it's not pretty.

    its a bit more complicated then that, because these are people from my home town, that I grew up with. Most of the situations are cases where our lives are more tangled together. If I just stopped hanging out with them, I am sure I would still see them everywhere.

    Sometimes you need to be a little selfish and think about what is best for you, even if that means abandoning some friends. The uncomfortable, awkward moment in passing when you run into them when you are out and about is certainly preferable to having an apartment full of people passed out until 6pm, the risk of police intervention at some time, and possibly having your property in the apartment stolen to be pawned for quick cash to get their next fix.
  • Sk8Tex

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    Apr 16, 2011 7:05 PM GMT
    Iceblink said
    northernblood said
    paradox saidMy only advice would be to put as much distance as you possibly can between yourself and a bunch of junkies, because when their lives start falling apart, they're going to rob you blind if that's what it takes to get a hit. I recently watched an episode of Ross Kemp: Extreme World about the heroin subculture in Chicago, and it's not pretty.

    its a bit more complicated then that, because these are people from my home town, that I grew up with. Most of the situations are cases where our lives are more tangled together. If I just stopped hanging out with them, I am sure I would still see them everywhere.

    Sometimes you need to be a little selfish and think about what is best for you, even if that means abandoning some friends. The uncomfortable, awkward moment in passing when you run into them when you are out and about is certainly preferable to having an apartment full of people passed out until 6pm, the risk of police intervention at some time, and possibly having your property in the apartment stolen to be pawned for quick cash to get their next fix.


    Seriously listen to these guys.. Heroine is one of the worst drugs out there. I have an older sister who's had her life destroyed by this drug, she doesn't really have much of any future to look forward to, and everyone in my family wants absolutely nothing to do with her. She got convinced to try it by her douchebag husband because he was doing it too. Last time I saw her she was so high she tried to hit on me and didn't understand just how revolting that was, stole a ring my ex had given me that cost about $1200 and tried to steal my Movado watch but I caught her on that one. Have not seen or talked to her in years, and after a point I just stopped taking her calls because I don't wanna hear/see or bring any of that craziness into my life. Though just last month I heard that her husband overdosed and died, and she was right beside him the entire time and didn't call an ambulance for a 1/2 hour because she was so out of it she had no clue wtf was going on. To top it off I hear she also steals my mothers pain medication, who isn't expected to live through this year after having 3 strokes, yet theres my sister stealing her medication.

    DO NOT ALLOW THIS DRUG TO BE ANYWHERE AROUND YOU...EVER. Absolutely nothing good will ever come of it
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    Apr 16, 2011 7:05 PM GMT
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    paradox saidMy only advice would be to put as much distance as you possibly can between yourself and a bunch of junkies, because when their lives start falling apart, they're going to rob you blind if that's what it takes to get a hit. I recently watched an episode of Ross Kemp: Extreme World about the heroin subculture in Chicago, and it's not pretty.

    its a bit more complicated then that, because these are people from my home town, that I grew up with. Most of the situations are cases where our lives are more tangled together. If I just stopped hanging out with them, I am sure I would still see them everywhere.


    So it's a choice of evils then. Unfortunately we are sometimes faced with choices like that. But getting yourself OUT of there is still the lesser evil and the better choice. Get out.
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    Apr 16, 2011 7:10 PM GMT
    If you dont move out, they will steal your money, steal your furniture, steal everythin from you. Just MOVE OUT!!!
  • mybud

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    Apr 16, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    Dude... your friends have a friendship with drugs.... your a distant second...My advice move on ..you deserve better...BUD
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    Apr 16, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    you owe those people nothing . . . run very quickly in the opposite direction . . . addicts (and a dear friend of mine was one) have no conscience at all, and your well being is the last thing on their minds . . .

    . . . and your are much too pretty to be a casualty. . . this is all about survival, babe, not loyalty -- remember that, please
  • stee99

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    Apr 16, 2011 7:55 PM GMT
    ATX611 saidSimple answer: can't believe this is causing you grief.... you move out and stop hanging out with them. Easy answer. The whole, "we've known each other, grew up together, we will see each other" excuse is, pardon my French, bullshit. You are who you hang with. If these people don't respect themselves enough to put that shit in there body, they sure as shit won't respect you when push comes to shove. Give it time, keep living there, keep subconsciously condoning their behavior, and being a co-dependent crutch..... soon your stuff, cash, etc will come up missing. Oh, and if your house ever gets raided, then go ahead and prepare for some sweet time in jail.

    Move out, break off the friendship, move in a different and more productive direction in your life. If you see them out it whatever and they're mean or off-putting..... who cares, they're fucking junkies!! How are you even asking this question? First notice of anything like that and I would've had my shit boxed up and gone.


    +1

    and your gonna get tarred with the same brush as them by cops/neighbours.
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    Apr 17, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    northernblood said...
    I am not going to get new friends, ...
    In that case, your situation will only get worse.
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    Apr 17, 2011 12:44 AM GMT
    If you are a good friend and don't find their actions to your liking and genuinely care then you need to say something. Your approach to this is like sweeping dust under a rug.

    You say you don't want to look for new friends but given your situation it sounds like you do need new friends. Ones that would respect you at least and have the common decency not to do H in front of you at least.

    For starters, you should talk to your room mate and inform him that you aren't too fond of his usage of H at home nor do you like having others come over and use your place as a hotbox. If he can't respect that then I say it's time for you to either move or kick his ass out. At the cost of losing friends (if you can call them that) sometimes tough love is needed.
  • northernblood

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    Apr 17, 2011 10:46 PM GMT

    I am going to start confronting people more. My roommates use never scares me, because anytime he falls into it, he withdraws soon after, and stays clean while he atttends school. I will stop hanging out with any of my friends once I make the conclusion that they are junkies, Ive been around enough to know where the line is. I think anyones body is thier own business, if someone can stay responsible and respectful (which is the DEFINITION of my room mate) then they should be able to injest what they want to feel good. thanks for all the advice!!!! some of it definetely helped!
  • northernblood

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    Apr 17, 2011 10:56 PM GMT
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    If you don't get out now, you'll be doing it with them and die with them. That is all there is to it![/quote]
    not true whatsoever, I have been around that shit enough to say no enough. I know what it is, and I know exactly what it does to people. It is pretty stupid to say that if I am around a drug, I WILL start using it, very health class 7th grade. As a musician in the scene that I am in, drugs are everywhere, in almost everyone, all the damn time. I am not going to just stop what im doing, and stop playing parties, because people are high as shit. It just means there going to dance harder to my music. I had my few years of experimentation in that scene, never got too deep as I saw what it did to the more irresponsible saps. It doesnt matter if people are handing me free whatever, it will still always be up to me wether I say yes or no.
  • northernblood

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    Apr 17, 2011 11:01 PM GMT
    heybreaux said
    northernblood said[quote]
    If you don't get out now, you'll be doing it with them and die with them. That is all there is to it!

    not true whatsoever, I have been around that shit enough to say no enough. I know what it is, and I know exactly what it does to people. It is pretty stupid to say that if I am around a drug, I WILL start using it, very health class 7th grade. As a musician in the scene that I am in, drugs are everywhere, in almost everyone, all the damn time. I am not going to just stop what im doing, and stop playing parties, because people are high as shit. It just means there going to dance harder to my music. I had my few years of experimentation in that scene, never got too deep as I saw what it did to the more irresponsible saps. It doesnt matter if people are handing me free whatever, it will still always be up to me wether I say yes or no.


    OK...but YOU were the one asking for advice!
    That is my advice icon_biggrin.gif[/quote]
    thanks for your input, sorry to say it just isn't true though. I am not going to die of heroine, because I am never going to touch the shit. simple as that
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    Apr 17, 2011 11:06 PM GMT
    That's just it. That sort of behavior SHOULD bother you because one day things might get ugly while your friend is on it. FYI....you pretty much called your roomie a junkie so does that mean you are gonna be searching for a new roomie anytime soon?

    True, what people do with their body is their business but if it's in your presence and you don't like it (especially given the fact that it's experienced in your living quarters) then you should say something. Don't complain about his problem and then dismiss it like it's not a big deal by saying he's responsible about it. That just makes you look confused and silly. Your roomie is a pusher and a destroyer of lives it seems and you tolerating what he is doing is part of the problem.

    Call him out on his shit or just move out and be done with it. When your stuff starts magically disappearing or when you have some random person up in your house/apt threatening you over some crazy stuff then you'll have no one to blame but yourself for not taking swift action. You know what the problem is and need to apply a swift solution before it gets worse....and it will.
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    Apr 17, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't.