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    Apr 16, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
    Has anyone here owned a Fiat? Or, currently own a Fiat? My parents owned one when they lived in [West] Germany and Belgium but that was back in the 1970's. My dad said it was a decent car but driving in Europe is nothing like driving in the States, I'm sure.

    I see that they are slowly making a comeback here in the States and their cars look very interesting and a made for city living.

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    Apr 16, 2011 1:03 AM GMT
    new 500 is a fucking fast lil shit, not only for city.


    I ve owned a few, most need loving, but if youre a car guy, they are great machines!

    That said, i would like another 126 bis
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    Apr 16, 2011 1:06 AM GMT
    My sister had a Fiat 128 3P, and it was an unreliable piece of junk. My brother had a Fiat Spider, and it was equally unreliable. I don't understand how they can stay in business, making such unbelievably shitty cars.
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    Apr 16, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
    paradox saidMy sister had a Fiat 128 3P, and it was an unreliable piece of junk. My brother had a Fiat Spider, and it was equally unreliable. I don't understand how they can stay in business, making such unbelievably shitty cars.


    tender love and care, if youre a hopeless retard, get a toyota
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    Apr 16, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
    Right... because only a "hopeless retard" could possibly want a car that doesn't break down constantly. I can almost understand the allure of buying a temperamental, high-end Italian sports car that is mindblowingly satisfying to drive when it's not in the shop. But, I don't see the charm in owning an every day ride that's forever leaving me stranded by the side of the road.
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    Apr 16, 2011 1:54 AM GMT
    Fiat's had a terrible rep in Germany in the 70s and 80s. My parents owned one of their rust-buckets, a 127. In school we said Fiat is an acronym for "Fehler in allen Teilen" (Faulty in all parts).

    I think they fixed their problems, but 10-15 years ago they almost went belly up, but were also deemed "to big to fail" for Italy. But they also own Ferrari, and of those we could def. use more here in the US...

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    Apr 16, 2011 2:24 AM GMT
    One branch of the Gore family (Gore-Tex) used to live here, and two of the boys were serious gearheads. One brother had a Testarossa, and it was always in the shop. The other brother had a Lamborghini LM002, and he ended up selling it and getting a HUMVEE that he converted from diesel/automatic to gas/manual. The LM002 had an amazing suspension; you could haul ass over washboard gravel, and it was almost as smooth as pavement. The HUMVEE didn't ride as nice, but it was far more reliable.

    It's not as if it's impossible to build fun cars that are also reliable. I drove a Mazda RX-7 for two years before trading it in for a Porsche 911, and those cars never broke down. My brother got the Spider after his Spitfire spat fire, and when he could no longer tolerate the Spider's ridiculously unreliable fuel injection, he got a 5.0 liter Ford Mustang convertible with a 5-speed manual and drove it for 20 years.
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    Apr 16, 2011 2:35 AM GMT
    Wait.. Who owns Fiat now? I thought I heard a while back, that Chyrsler bought some interest in Fiat. If this is true, I would imagine that Chrysler would provide some engineering assistance and make the new Fiat 500 more reliable.
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    Apr 16, 2011 3:06 AM GMT
    xrichx saidWait.. Who owns Fiat now? I thought I heard a while back, that Chyrsler bought some interest in Fiat. If this is true, I would imagine that Chrysler would provide some engineering assistance and make the new Fiat 500 more reliable.


    Fiat S.p.A is still Fiat; they now own a 30% stake in Chrysler because of their bankruptcy from 2008-2009 which makes them part owners in Chrysler. Chrysler could probably have never afforded to buy any stake in Fiat due to their poor financial situation.
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    Apr 16, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    Fiat's quality has drastically improved since the 70's and 80's. They're not the shoddily put together rust buckets they once were.

    BTW, Michael Keaton wasn't putting Japanese cars together in Gung Ho, but Fiat Ritmos and Regatas (among others.) THOSE were junk.
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    Apr 16, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    mi16t said
    paradox saidMy sister had a Fiat 128 3P, and it was an unreliable piece of junk. My brother had a Fiat Spider, and it was equally unreliable. I don't understand how they can stay in business, making such unbelievably shitty cars.


    tender love and care, if youre a hopeless retard, get a toyota


    Up- down- left- right- you really are a jerk from all angles.

    A one of kind, I must say.
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    Apr 16, 2011 5:24 AM GMT
    The Fiat 500 officially becomes available this month (at least in Los Angeles). I saw billnoards all over downtown advertising it a few months ago. When I checked online to see which dealerships were going to sell them, I discovered they are completly sold out. You actually had to reserve them.

    Apparently, it is really geared to battle the Mini Cooper market. And with the Mini coming out with a larger version this year, the Fiat should definately take a slice of the market.

    Super cute looking car.

    When my family lived in the Philappines in the 60s, we had a little Fiat.
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    Apr 16, 2011 5:26 AM GMT
    FIAT = Fix It Again Tony
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    Apr 16, 2011 5:27 AM GMT
    bhp91126 saidFiat's had a terrible rep in Germany in the 70s and 80s. My parents owned one of their rust-buckets, a 127. In school we said Fiat is an acronym for "Fehler in allen Teilen" (Faulty in all parts).

    I think they fixed their problems, but 10-15 years ago they almost went belly up, but were also deemed "to big to fail" for Italy. But they also own Ferrari, and of those we could def. use more here in the US...



    We used to say it stood for Fix It Again, Tony.
  • stee99

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    Apr 16, 2011 5:39 AM GMT
    mate of mine used to have a Stilo abarth. Was reliable, barely..
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    Apr 16, 2011 7:02 AM GMT
    Back in the 70's and 80's they had a tendancy to rust , but they were mechanically reliable as long as you followed the manufacturer's recommended services ...
    There small engines were modern , thrifty and powerful enough ......and a hoot to drive ...
    My aunt in Cairns , Queensland had one when i was growing up , and it was a good little car , and believe me North Queensland in the 70's was hard on car as most of the secondary roads were gravels ....