Did anyone see this video? LiveLeak Drops ‘Anti-Islam’ Film After Threats. And people think there is no war on Terror. Think again, these people want you DEAD.

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    Apr 02, 2008 5:06 PM GMT
    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/liveleak-drops-anti-islam-film-after-threats

    scroll down to see the video. People say it is crazy and nothing too worry about. "WTF happened to the U.K.? ”

    First liberalism. Then socialism; and they brought with them political correctness.

    Beware: What happens in Europe always seems to make it’s way to North America. Socialism, universal healthcare, political correctness, appeasement of tyrants, high taxes and high unemployment, elitist rule with a class system, soccer and dark beer.

    I chat with some folks across the pond sometimes and they are furious at the way the UK is allowing this hate to be taught in the mosques. Plus %70 of young Muslims are unemployed and on government assistance. Their politicians cower in the corner and go out of their way not to offend these animals while they plan to kill every British citizen.

    Keep electing demonicrats. Now Playing in Europe; Coming to a city near you soon!

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    Apr 02, 2008 5:29 PM GMT
    this is where i'm supposed to drop in the politically correct "not all muslims are extremists" comment; however, the muslims who are not extremists aren't the problem, now are they?
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    Apr 02, 2008 5:31 PM GMT
    Jesus Christ. This better be spam.
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    Apr 02, 2008 5:34 PM GMT

    Wait a second. What's wrong with soccer? Why is that some invasive force... icon_rolleyes.gif

    As for socialism we won't be seeing that anytime soon. Must be a European thing.
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    Apr 02, 2008 5:37 PM GMT
    thornn, i'm rather incensed by this. muslims in general are NOT a hateful and warfaring ethnicity.

    this sort of bullshit nonsense is what the far right feeds on. when you post statistics like this, please back them up with citations.

    otherwise, please stop trying to spread your hateful racist bigoted values.

    i have muslim friends and i have walked past many thousands of muslims in a years time and i don't feel the slightest bit threatened by ANY of them.

    muslims are NOT animals. you however are the epitome of hateful warfaring racist mindset that stirs up and creates controversy where none exists so you have an excuse to get away with murder.

    go away please.
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:00 PM GMT
    THORNN saidFirst liberalism. Then socialism; and they brought with them political correctness...Plus %70 of young Muslims are unemployed and on government assistance.


    Now without Liberalism/Socialism, these unemployed (BTW, doubt your stat, here) wouldn't be on government assistance, they'd be hungry. Ever see a hungry man? They don't play nice.

    Let's help! Keep people fed. Starving people are very dangerous.
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:09 PM GMT
    l have not seen this video but if you add it so i can just click it i will take a look!

    A lot is happening in Britain that l know as family and friends tell me and everyone is Arse Licking as not to offend anyone its call Political Correctness?

    l Live in Turkey which is Muslim but moderate and all my best friends are locals and l don't have a problem so i guess we have to look at the CORE and who is responsible for the fanatics of the world! just remember its not so long ago you had KKK in your country?
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:11 PM GMT
    The KKK? Ballerinas compared to the kids being sent to Jesus Camp these days. Then there's Focus on the Family, the Phelps Family (sometimes mistaken for the Manson Family) and a whole host of others. Oh, let's not forget the Republicans. Now there's a group of fundamental whackos.
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    Apr 02, 2008 5:37 PM GMTQuote thornn, i'm rather incensed by this. muslims in general are NOT a hateful and warfaring ethnicity.

    this sort of bullshit nonsense is what the far right feeds on. when you post statistics like this, please back them up with citations.

    otherwise, please stop trying to spread your hateful racist bigoted values.

    i have muslim friends and i have walked past many thousands of muslims in a years time and i don't feel the slightest bit threatened by ANY of them.

    muslims are NOT animals. you however are the epitome of hateful warfaring racist mindset that stirs up and creates controversy where none exists so you have an excuse to get away with murder.

    go away please.
    I am in no way a bigot. hell I am a Spic, or wet back and GAy for Christ sake. I am not saying all Muslims are like this, and I am friend with some also. Why wont the left wake up and let it be know this is stuff is real. Hell I am all for stopping the Mexicans and throwing them out of the country till unless they get in the right way. But the Dems think it is ok to let everyone in the US. I can't wait till they build that wall. Oh then we have the Environmental freaks saying this will hurt the coyotes. Don't get me started on oil. We have so much oil in our back yard and we cant drill for it. It might hurt the enviroment. I am here to stay sorry.
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:34 PM GMT
    Come on down to Austin and call me an environmental freak to my face.

    Anyone get the impression this is another one of those profiles that will mysteriously disappear in ten days?
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:39 PM GMT
    THORNN saidWhy wont the left wake up and let it be know this is stuff is real...But the Dems think it is ok to let everyone in the US.


    For full disclosure, I'm a lefty, vote Democratic mostly (although I get Green, Independent or Republican if they're a good candidate).

    I see where you have much to fear. But in the interest of remaining civil in your posts, don't generalize on MY population, much less the Muslims or the Mexicans. That's not political correctness, that's about not getting your ass kicked by someone smarter than you.

    Please rephrase yourself, and I'll give your point of view a chance.
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:46 PM GMT
    Why do racists and bigots complain of political correctness when called on their shit?
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    Apr 02, 2008 6:49 PM GMT
    There's a reason why it's called political correctness.

    Because much of it is correct.

    Guys like this prefer political wrongness I guess.
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    Apr 02, 2008 7:00 PM GMT
    sjeez, i was hoping RJ would keep clear of the Geert WIlders discussion thats been raging the low lands of Holland, but I guess its not.

    This movie Fitna has been discussed and mortified to death in the dutch media for over 3 months (the first time mr Wilders made a comment on making this movie.)

    He is not someone who is "politically correct" (pun intended) and there was a great fear this movie would spawn the same controversy like the anti-moslim cartoon from denmark. (its the first image used in the movie, for which Geert will be prosecuted by the danish cartoonist for infringement of copyright icon_smile.gif )

    But in short, yes it is offending, yes it conflicts with good taste, but it also practices freedom of speech, which still is the corner stone of a democracy. Please dont bash me for that defense also excuses verbally gay bashing, but it is an important right. Based on freedom of speech we can start a discussion based on arguments and facts.

    I dont support mr Wilders nor his pitiful excuse of a movie, but i do support freedom of speech. And in that sense i don't agree with liveleak for dropping that movie.

    Working for the most liberal Internet provider in holland, i have faced many discussion on content posted on our servers. Of course its 'mere conduit' but offended people don't grasp the concept of freedom of speech. When used for something controversial or despicable even, its where this freedom comes to play. Not for everything everyone already could agree on.

    That reminds me of a nice saying: Where two people always agree, One is obsolete...

    that at least is my 2,3 cents.

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    Apr 02, 2008 7:13 PM GMT
    THORNN saidI am in no way a bigot. hell I am a Spic, or wet back and GAy for Christ sake. I am not saying all Muslims are like this, and I am friend with some also. Why wont the left wake up and let it be know this is stuff is real. Hell I am all for stopping the Mexicans and throwing them out of the country till unless they get in the right way. But the Dems think it is ok to let everyone in the US. I can't wait till they build that wall. Oh then we have the Environmental freaks saying this will hurt the coyotes. Don't get me started on oil. We have so much oil in our back yard and we cant drill for it. It might hurt the enviroment. I am here to stay sorry.


    We don't need more oil, we need better ideas. The greenies have some extremists but they still have a point. We're destroying our wild lands and wildlife. The Dems don't think it's ok to let everyone in and those who do come in should come in legitimately. I do however feel "legitimate" is used as a tool to stop people from entering the States when they should be let in. Stop generalizing entire groups. The left is wide awake and for what it's worth, statistically, the left have a higher IQ than the right. Some credence should be given to the left. There is a vast difference to what the US and Mexican governments "legitimately" do related to the border, and what is ethically and morally correct.


    bigot:

    2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of
    religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or
    opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable
    or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is
    intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in
    politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to
    his own church, party, belief, or opinion.


    "...not to offend these animals while they plan to kill every British citizen."

    You've generalized "70%" of all the British Muslim youth. You've generalized all Mexicans in America.

    Please stop.
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    Apr 02, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    phxariz08 saidThis is Arabs and Muslims stereotype in the Hollywood video by Dr. Jack Shaheen. Funny because not even one movie talk about Arab Christians.



    that video is very fucked up
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    Apr 02, 2008 10:42 PM GMT
    I dont know where you get your stats from but I can assure you that is not the slightest bit true about unemployment and I am not sure what hyped up garbage yuo have been reading about the status quo in Europe but I think you need to subscribe to a different provider and not KKK TV

    You are clearly ignorant of the facts and a biggot.

    Whilst their is an issue with a few mosques that have been spreading messages of hate internally there are always religious nuts no matter the religion. The difference? We have created a mass hysteria against a sector of the community.

    There are far far far more peaceful integrated and loving subscribers to religion in this country then a few idiots that use religion as an excuse for other issues in their life.

    Flip back to the 80's get a record out and play it, I can reccomend a good one "Dont believe the Hype!"
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    Apr 02, 2008 10:57 PM GMT
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    First liberalism. Then socialism; and they brought with them political correctness.

    Keep electing demonicrats. Now Playing in Europe; Coming to a city near you soon!


    Another moron. What rock do you idiots live under? And must you keep crawling out from beneath them?
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    Apr 02, 2008 10:58 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWhy do racists and bigots complain of political correctness when called on their shit?


    It's the only defense they have. Deep down they actually know how disgusting they are.
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    Apr 02, 2008 11:12 PM GMT
    THORNNBut the Dems think it is ok to let everyone in the US. I can't wait till they build that wall. Oh then we have the Environmental freaks saying this will hurt the coyotes. Don't get me started on oil. We have so much oil in our back yard and we cant drill for it. It might hurt the enviroment.

    Environmental freak, huh? Come to Chicago and call me that to my face. Go ahead, drill for your oil, and kill all the animals and plants while you're at it. Go ahead... and when you face the extinction of the human race because you've destroyed nature, tell me what good your oil is then.... because you can not eat, drink or breathe that oil or the money gained from it... and when the animals have all died and all the plants with them, the waters are all thick with pollution and the air is toxic... what will you eat, what will you drink, and what will you breathe?

    As for your original post, I find it to be offensive and baseless. You will find extremists in every religion, from every nationality, in every walk of life if you look hard enough. This is bigoted... and neither your sexual orientation nor your ethnic origin precludes you from the ability to be bigoted. Please stop.
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    Apr 02, 2008 11:20 PM GMT
    Guys, Geert Wilders is a joke in the Netherlands.

    Many Muslim organisations have invited him to debate, and he refused all. As an excuse he said he wanted to launch this movie first.

    Furthermore, NMO, which is a sort of Muslim broadcasting on Sunday offered to show his film (before its launch). That he refused too. I mean, he's just demonising and practising the fear-tactic.

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    Apr 03, 2008 12:20 AM GMT
    Ever been to Europe? Or even left the united States?

    You know I bet I could say name 10 countries in Europe and I'd stand there eyebrows raised as you reached 5 or 6 and started drawing blanks....


    BTW unemplyment here has been between 2-3% for the last decade,As a student working part time I earned $27,000 under my tax free allowance , plus my college tuition like all students was paid by the government.


    As for appeasing tyrants Cough***Bush***Cough
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    Apr 03, 2008 1:14 AM GMT
    About half of what you wrote points directly at what's happening to our country, under BUSH IE: "appeasement of tyrants" = Bushies pushing their damn war down our throats, tyrants like bush/cheney handing out billions of dollar in no bid contracts to their chronies and nothing we can do to stop it, "HIGH TAXES" they'll have to go up to pay for bushies war, "ELITIST RULE" who but the bushies chronies are benefitting from this war and his tax breaks for the rich, "ALLOWING HATE TO BE TAUGHT IN THE MOSQUES" Guess who got that started ??? the CIA when they were training the Afghans to fight the Russians, they got em kicked off to a good start didn't they !!! Kill every UK citizen my ass !!!! This bigotry is a huge part to play in any animosity coming from some muslims, what few there are in the whole sceem of things. The Bushies Policies and previous such policies have brought this hate about !!! we can look in the mirror of the USA for where the problem came from !!!!
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    Apr 03, 2008 12:55 PM GMT
    Environmental freak, huh? Come to Chicago and call me that to my face. Go ahead, drill for your oil, and kill all the animals and plants while you're at it. Go ahead... and when you face the extinction of the human race because you've destroyed nature, tell me what good your oil is then.... because you can not eat, drink or breathe that oil or the money gained from it... and when the animals have all died and all the plants with them, the waters are all thick with pollution and the air is toxic... what will you eat, what will you drink, and what will you breathe?

    Ok so all of the oil off the cost of FL we should not drill for. In the mean time Cuba and China are already planning to take this oil that is only 50 miles of our coast. So what are we going to do when they have an accident and I am sure they won't give a rats ass about the animales the sea. It is the enviromental FREAKS that stop us from drilling oil, even making new plants to refine oil, or build new power nuk/plants to produce our energy. Truth is we are far from not using oil,or finding alternative methods to oil. Hell food prices are now up becuase people are growing corn for altnative oil, instead of wheat.
    "China is trying to lock up resources around the world, and they are locking up resources in our own backyard where we can't even compete and play ball. This is simply wrong."
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    Apr 03, 2008 1:03 PM GMT
    Larry Craig? Seriously? icon_rolleyes.gif

    I'm nonetheless fascinated by the tendency in the 'conservative' thinkers (or rather, 'far right' as few of them are really conservative in the base political intent of that term) to so often blame others for the problems of the world at large, always exonerating themselves through exclusion of their own ill contributions.