When did it become taboo for guys to show skin?

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    Apr 20, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    Hi guys I wanted to bring up the topic, why is it taboo in today's society for guys to show skin? The video clip looks like it's from the eighties which was not all that long ago and society has changed it's views on what men "should" wear. We went from speedos to boardshorts and shorts are more like pants. What are your guys thoughts?

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    Apr 20, 2011 7:37 AM GMT
    Well, this will sound simplistic, but IMO, it is because to the fear or taboo or whatever word you want to use, but it all comes down to seeing PENIS. Think about. Most people in this country have no problem with lesbians, right? And consider porn. Ever consider that the reason alot of straight guys have problems with gay guys is because of the PENIS. I personally don't care if a guy wears a speedo or not. I just have a problem with people wearing clothes when clearly they honestly don't have the body for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. America really needs to get over itself when it cames to male nudity. Afterall, it is just a PENIS.
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    Apr 20, 2011 7:53 AM GMT
    I blame hip hop and general laziness on the part of men, but it depends on where you look. Some guys on here have trouble putting clothes on!
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    Apr 20, 2011 11:21 AM GMT
    cold saidOur current leader of the opposition:
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    Argh........ anything to distract us from his lack of decent policies icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 20, 2011 11:50 AM GMT
    I believe that if you have physique to pull off a speedo, then by all means wear it....However in most cases I found grossly overweight men wearing THEM...icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 20, 2011 12:11 PM GMT
    I totally agree. I can't stand the feeling of wet clothes hanging on me and cringe when I see guys wearing nearly full pants at the pool or hot tub. That must feel awful. I'm modest, but wear the shortest "short" or "trunk" style swimsuits but to have all that heavy wet fabric on me is horrible.

    Sure I get strange looks because I have some "springy" square cuts, but with 29 inch thighs having them constrained by wet fabric is just uncomfortable.
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    Jayjames said
    cold saidOur current leader of the opposition:
    212259-tony-abbott-091130.jpg




    Argh........ anything to distract us from his lack of decent policies icon_wink.gif


    I think that's how he stops the boats, just wears that haha
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    Apr 20, 2011 12:46 PM GMT
    It's because of the new acceptability of homosexuality. Before everyone was presumed straight, so no distinct needed to be made. Now that gay us more acceptable, the more modest attire is to signal that the wearer is straight.
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    Apr 20, 2011 1:15 PM GMT
    TomR01 said
    Jayjames said
    cold saidOur current leader of the opposition:
    212259-tony-abbott-091130.jpg




    Argh........ anything to distract us from his lack of decent policies icon_wink.gif


    I think that's how he stops the boats, just wears that haha


    Ye gods! Tony Abbott has more costume changes than a drag queen.
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    Apr 20, 2011 1:38 PM GMT
    Nothing wrong with banana hammocks, but they're not for everybody. If banana hammocks become fashionable again, there should be banana hammock sheriffs that are authorized to issue citations for intentional infliction of gag reflex.
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    Apr 20, 2011 1:38 PM GMT
    I don't know if Speedos were ever popular with straight guys in the U.S., but I still see lots of them ( and smaller suits ) on gay guys.
    I have a Speedo, a square cut and trunks so I can switch around.
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    Apr 20, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidWell, this will sound simplistic, but IMO, it is because to the fear or taboo or whatever word you want to use, but it all comes down to seeing PENIS. Think about. Most people in this country have no problem with lesbians, right? And consider porn. Ever consider that the reason alot of straight guys have problems with gay guys is because of the PENIS. I personally don't care if a guy wears a speedo or not. I just have a problem with people wearing clothes when clearly they honestly don't have the body for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. America really needs to get over itself when it cames to male nudity. Afterall, it is just a PENIS.
    *standing ovation*
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:30 PM GMT
    jawrhed saidI don't know if Speedos were ever popular with straight guys in the U.S., but I still see lots of them ( and smaller suits ) on gay guys.
    I have a Speedo, a square cut and trunks so I can switch around.



    bathing suit pics, PLEASE!

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    Apr 20, 2011 2:31 PM GMT
    I like board shorts. I guess I could wear square cut tiny shorts if I felt the need for attention, but I don't, so I'll stick to board shorts. I can't stand wearing tighty-whiteys, so I don't think a speedo would be much different. The only time anyone has said anything to me in person about wearing board shorts when they were wearing speedos, it was my last boyfriend's friends. They were all flamboyant queens, so nobody that I really wanted to hang out with anyway. I'm able to run, play volleyball, kite surf, wakeboard, and swim perfectly fine in board shorts comfortably. The only advantages I'd see to wearing a speedo are easier swimming and attention. I don't need either.
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
    coincided with AIDS in the 80s.icon_neutral.gif
  • rnch

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    Apr 20, 2011 2:40 PM GMT
    talk about double standards!

    a top heavy girl can wear a tiny swin suit with less material than a hankerchief, with 90% of her pecs hanging out and exposed and outlining every razor bump on her shaved pelvis...that's perfectly acceptable....


    BUT



    a man in a speedo, showing even the vague outline of his anatomy...



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    Apr 20, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
    rnch saidtalk about double standards!

    a top heavy girl can wear a tiny swin suit with less material than a hankerchief, with 90% of her pecs hanging out and exposed and outlining every razor bump on her shaved pelvis...that's perfectly acceptable....


    BUT



    a man in a speedo, showing even the vague outline of his anatomy...



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    Girls are into guys in speedos though, right?

    I mean, the majority of guys (which, the majority are straight) want to see girls' tits, and not guys' penises. Some gay guys want to see guys' penises, along with some girls. I don't see the double standard, unless you're talking about with straight guys only, in which case, start this paragraph over.
  • hawkeye7

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    Apr 20, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    well I have been wearing a speedo for 20 years and just find them more comfortable. I really hate heavy wet shorts. I have the body to wear on so that helps.

    In 1987 I traveled to the USSR and found that everyone wore one. It was about swimming and enjoying the water
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    Apr 20, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
    Fivealive saidI believe that if you have physique to pull off a speedo, then by all means wear it....However in most cases I found grossly overweight men wearing THEM...icon_eek.gif



    "grossly overweight men" look better in board shorts?



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    Apr 20, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
    Caslon18000 saidIt's because of the new acceptability of homosexuality. Before everyone was presumed straight, so no distinct needed to be made. Now that gay us more acceptable, the more modest attire is to signal that the wearer is straight.


    Totally agree with this.
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    Apr 20, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    Caslon18000 saidIt's because of the new acceptability of homosexuality. Before everyone was presumed straight, so no distinct needed to be made. Now that gay us more acceptable, the more modest attire is to signal that the wearer is straight.


    This is pretty close to what happened. I think it all started in 1973 with the American Psychiatric Association declaring that homosexuality was not a disease – and then we all looked at each other wondering what being a homosexual means. And then the naked YMCA swimming stuff came to a stop over the next four or five years. Speedos became uncool and then gay. Communal nudity in a locker room stopped being acceptable. Communal showers disappeared over the next 10 or 15 years whenever something new was built or a locker room remodeled.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 20, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
    I agree with some of what has been said above, but I had just long thought it was about style more than anything else. Speedos weren't in style as much as they used to be, but perhaps it is more.. unfortunately.
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    Apr 20, 2011 4:50 PM GMT
    rnch said
    Fivealive saidI believe that if you have physique to pull off a speedo, then by all means wear it....However in most cases I found grossly overweight men wearing THEM...icon_eek.gif



    "grossly overweight men" look better in board shorts?



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    I think if I had to look at a guy who was more than 50# (22kg) overweight, he would probably look better in board shirts or even a pair of loose trunks that covered him from waist to mid-thigh.

    Depending on how he carried his excess weight, most of the speedo might get lost in his... anatomical details.

    Compare -

    Case 1:

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    Case 2:

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    Of course, Speedos as a brand were originally marketed to competitive athletic swimmers before they were to the mass market.
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    Apr 20, 2011 5:03 PM GMT
    hawkeye7 saidwell I have been wearing a speedo for 20 years and just find them more comfortable. I really hate heavy wet shorts. I have the body to wear on so that helps.

    In 1987 I traveled to the USSR and found that everyone wore one. It was about swimming and enjoying the water


    Same here, been wearing speedos for 20 years. Have always had the figure to wear one. Plus, I dont look out of place on a european beach.

    And, I like the tan lines.


    Even though there is a video of guys wearing speedos , they weren't popular in the 80s

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    Apr 20, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
    It just isn't the straight guys.. look at the responses by the young guys in threads about getting changed or showering in the gym locker room.. Most of them today won't do it. They're too inhibited.