Why Are The Republicans Afraid of President Obama?

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    Apr 22, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    One of the most often-overheard refrains from the Republican Party and its far-right base is that President Obama is the worst president in American history. Others say he "pals around with terrorists." They say he's destroying America. They say that he's weak, that he dithers and that he's effete -- implying either that he's gay or effeminate or both. Around half of all Republicans have told pollsters that he's not even constitutionally eligible to be president, which ought to mandate an immediate removal from office.

    But what does all of this say about the men and women who are noticeably hesitant to officially announce their candidacies for the Republican nomination? Not a single one of the well-known frontrunners has declared anything more than "exploratory committees" -- quite literally the presidential campaign equivalent of dithering. At this juncture in the 2008 cycle, most of the major Democratic and Republican candidates were underway with their official campaigns. And yet...

    Michele Bachmann, a would-be frontrunner, called the president "even worse" than President Carter. She accused him of being "infantile" and suggested he wouldn't even run for a second term because the "floor has dropped out" from his support. However, tough-talking Michele Bachmann hasn't officially declared her candidacy to run against this allegedly unpopular weakling.

    Mitt Romney said that his "worst fears" about the president have come true and that the chief executive is pushing an "extreme liberal agenda." Romney also accused the president of being "tentative, indecisive, timid and nuanced" on Libya. However, tough-talking Mitt Romney hasn't officially declared his candidacy to run against such a timid and indecisive extremist. How would Mitt react when confronted by actual extremists? Hopefully not with the same timidity he's exercising in his run for president.

    Sarah Palin has screeched nearly every imaginable insult at the president (often while she's utterly botching commonly-known facts about the Constitution). She accused him of "dithering" on Libya. He's a "spectator-in-chief," she said. She's accused him of being a socialist. She told Sean Hannity that she "fears for our democracy" due to the president's agenda. She's famously accused him of being a terrorist sympathizer -- this alone ought to compel her to run for president if only to rid the executive branch of an obvious terrorist. However, pit bull Sarah Palin appears to be "dithering" when in comes to her campaign to run against this alleged terrorist, socialist ditherer.

    The irreversibly somnambulatory Tim Pawlenty has accused the president of being "weak" on foreign policy and "clueless" on the economy. Pawlenty accused the president's Libya decision of being "belated and timid." Okay, but what does it say about Pawlenty when he's only announced an exploratory committee to run against someone who he believes is "weak" and "timid?"

    Newt Gingrich couldn't even generate a consistent position on Libya. No wonder he can't decide whether to run against the president, who, by the way, he accused of being "weak" and an "amateur" and the most "incompetent" commander-in-chief "since Carter." But still no official campaign announcement from Gingrich. You'd think someone as weak and incompetent would be easy to defeat, no?

    Donald Trump is, well, he's the driver of the GOP clown car at this point; and, as we're all aware by its around-the-clock coverage on cable news, doesn't believe the president is a citizen much less a legal office holder. And, of course, Trump believes the president is the "worst president in history." No official announcement from Trump even though defeating a president this criminally out of bounds should be a cakewalk.

    If what they're all saying were true (its' not), why are they so clearly afraid to run against President Obama: a president who they claim is some sort of gelatinous, terrorist, girlish, treasonous, Eurotrash socialist, gay, Kenyan constitutional usurper? There are several reasons why the Republicans are dithering.

    First, Republican voters are more convinced about the wacky birth certificate thing than they are about their preference for a nominee. While 45% of Republicans believe the silly, fringe conspiracy theory that the president isn't a citizen, 56% of Republicans support "none of the above" candidates, with most of the frontrunners sharing single-digit support. That's bad. 56% of Republicans would rather see "none of the above" than any of the current roster of would-be nominees. Simply put, Birtherism is more popular than the candidates themselves.

    Second, the president's approval numbers are artificially weak. Gas prices and the slow decline of the unemployment rate are pissing off voters, and so they're taking it out on the president. That said, there's a long list of accomplishments which the president can ballyhoo against these negative event-driven gripes. In other words, in the absence of jobless numbers and high gas prices, there are quite a few positives. Economic growth is up, and has been steadily growing since the passage of the president's recovery act. President Obama successfully appointed the first Hispanic female Supreme Court justice which invigorates a growing Hispanic demographic. Unemployment is slowly declining. The stock market is up, thus stabilizing 401(k)s and mutual funds owned by middle class Americans. And despite what the Republicans say, the president and the Democrats cut the deficit by $122 billion last year: the largest single-year decline in the deficit in American history. The list goes on and on. As soon as the Obama 2012 re-election campaign gets cranking on these accomplishments, the mostly unpopular Republican candidates will be almost totally neutered. Moreso than now.

    Third, the Republican legislative record is ridiculous. Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan and John Boehner have introduced ideologically far-right, inconsequential and symbolic bills that kill Planned Parenthood and NPR. They've passed legislation that cuts spending for pregnant women. They've passed legislation that magically circumvents the constitutional lawmaking process. They refuse to raise taxes on the rich while trying to gut Medicaid and kill Medicare, even though supermajorities of Americans support both of these crucial healthcare programs -- including majority support from Tea Party Republicans.

    And finally, at this late juncture, I don't see how the Republicans will be able to compete with the Obama machine when it comes to money, even with the awful Citizen's United decision and its subsequent deluge of corporate cash into the Republican Party. The modern Republican Party fancies itself the party of quick, decisive action. Shoot first and let God sort out the rest. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. It's the part of swift military action. It's the party that's spending $500,000 in congressional money to fight gay people. It's the party of apoplectic, doomsday talk radio screamers. It's the party that mocks "femi-nazis" -- the party that refuses to "bend over" for the "little black man-child." This is what they say, and it's a whole lot of blustery, impotent noise. There's one last reason why the Republicans are so cautious about declaring their intentions. They're cowards. And they're self-debunking the mythology that modern Republicans are bold, brave "Reagan-ish" leaders. They're cowards and so they're moving at granny-speed rather than light-speed to run against the president. B. Cesca
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    Apr 22, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
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    Apr 22, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    I think Repubs are afraid of Obama, because so far all they have to go on against him is nonsense filled rhetoric, baseless accusations, trumped up conspiracy theories such as Becks and Bachmans and a basic understanding (even though they won't admit it) that they themselves are along with Bush, to blame for our current financial recession.

    They know they are in trouble politically because of the above, but are beholding to Big Money interests and the TBaggers who are being fooled into going against their own interests with a little help from their friends the Koch Bro's. While Repub Politicians bluster a lot using all the above and any number of lies and propaganda to cover them up, THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CURRENT POLITICAL FOUNDATIONS ARE IN VERY LOOSE AND SHIFTING SANDS.

    Republicans have gotten themselves in DEEP SHIT because their politics is to win and their tactics are the above, not on winning by a sound foundation of working principles, because their principles are suspect or been proven wrong, or we wouldn't be in this current mess primarily of their making!!!!

    JUST MY OPINION !!
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    Apr 22, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    realifedad said I think Repubs are afraid of Obama, because so far all they have to go on against him is nonsense filled rhetoric, baseless accusations, trumped up conspiracy theories such as Becks and Bachmans and a basic understanding (even though they won't admit it) that they themselves are along with Bush are to blame for our current financial recession.

    They know they are in trouble politically because of the above, but are beholding to Big Money interests and the TBaggers who are being fooled into going against their own interests with a little help from their friends the Koch Bro's. While Repub Politicians bluster a lot using all the above and any number of lies and propaganda to cover them up, THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CURRENT POLITICAL FOUNDATIONS ARE IN VERY LOOSE AND SHIFTING SANDS.

    Republicans have gotten themselves in DEEP SHIT because their politics is to win and they're tactics are the above, not on winning by a sound foundation of working principles, because their principles are suspect or been proven wrong, or we wouldn't be in this current mess primarily of their making!!!!

    JUST MY OPINION !!




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  • GQjock

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    Apr 22, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    I don't think that they are afraid of Obama per say
    but they are extremely frightened of being called out for what THEY ARE

    Shills for the big money that sways electoral politics in this country
    If it can be bought or sold the republicans are all for it

    They scapegoat Obama because he's the opposition leader
    They did the same thing with Clinton
    except Obama doesn't have Bill's skirt chasing faults
    so they couldn't trump up charges like they did for 5 years with Clinton so they have to fall back on the next best thing

    and for them that's lies and innuendo

    Take for instance .................. The Birther Issue

    Death panels

    That he's a Muslim

    Bill Aires

    and on and on ................ they are all patent lies that take you away from the fact that the republican party took a well working vibrant super power and economy and trashed it in less than a decade

    But who wants the truth when you got clowns like Trump Bachman and Beck, huh?
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    Apr 22, 2011 6:11 PM GMT
    Washington insiders always know long before the electorate knows - who is going to win the next election.
    In 2004, they knew that Bush would very likely win reelection - so only a weak group of second and third tier Democrats even sought the nomination.
    In 2008, they knew that the Democratic nominee would win, so the strongest Democratic candidates fought fiercely to get the nomination.
    In 2010, they knew that the Repubs would gain a boatload of seats.
    And for 2012 - they know that Obama will very likely get reelected - so only the nuttiest weakest most desperate Repubs are thinking of running.
    Stronger more credible Repubs are sitting on the sidelines and waiting for 2016.
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    Apr 22, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    The GOP base of W.A.S.P is shrinking ,,,fading away....daily.


    D A I L Y.

    That's why they are scared.


    they have to put the fear of gays , blacks etc.........just to keep the ignorant ones on board.
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    Apr 22, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    Realifedad - I couldn't possibly put it better!
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    Apr 22, 2011 6:57 PM GMT
    Obama's "extreme liberal agenda" has included the following features:

    * passing a healthcare bill that works by creating new markets from which people buy their healthcare.

    * Bailing out [not nationalizing] banks, automotive makers, and then selling the governments share.

    * Mounting an operation in Libya.

    * Continuing the war in Afghanistan.

    * Allowing gays to serve in the military [but no other gay rights advances].

    etc.

    I don't know about you, but I think anyone who was trying to be objective about American politics would say that Obama was playing to the center. Which, incidentally, was who elected him.

    What would an "extreme liberal agenda" actually look like?

    * Passing a healthcare bill that created a National Health Service, nationalizing all hospitals and making doctors government employees.

    * Nationalizing banks, automakers, all failed businesses, and KEEPING them nationalized (!)

    * Withdrawing immediately from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    * Ignoring Libya.

    Now, I am sure there are some on hear who would argue that this doesn't sound so bad, and that maybe I've even been a bit moderate in what I count as 'extreme'.
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    Apr 22, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidObama's "extreme liberal agenda" has included the following features:

    * passing a healthcare bill that works by creating new markets from which people buy their healthcare.

    * Bailing out [not nationalizing] banks, automotive makers, and then selling the governments share.

    * Mounting an operation in Libya.

    * Continuing the war in Afghanistan.

    * Allowing gays to serve in the military [but no other gay rights advances].

    etc.

    I don't know about you, but I think anyone who was trying to be objective about American politics would say that Obama was playing to the center. Which, incidentally, was who elected him.

    What would an "extreme liberal agenda" actually look like?

    * Passing a healthcare bill that created a National Health Service, nationalizing all hospitals and making doctors government employees.

    * Nationalizing banks, automakers, all failed businesses, and KEEPING them nationalized (!)

    * Withdrawing immediately from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    * Ignoring Libya.

    Now, I am sure there are some on hear who would argue that this doesn't sound so bad, and that maybe I've even been a bit moderate in what I count as 'extreme'.




    What you've written highlights the remarkable foolishness that we've seen over the last couple of years.
    The Repubs have been brainwashed by Fox and the rest of the right-wing propaganda machine into believing the obviously FALSE idea that Obama is some kind of radical "socialist".
    While the far left - who weren't paying attention to the moderate centrist promises and agenda that Obama ran on in 2008 - expected Obama to be some kind of far left president.
    And they've been disappointed in the moderate centrist way Obama has governed - even to the point of some calling him "Bush Lite".
    The extreme right-wing Republican voters and the extreme far left segment of the Democratic party, are seeing two extreme and extremely different - FALSE views of what President Obama has done as president.

    That's why Obama's poll numbers have had a disapproval rating in the 40's.
    The Repubs all disapprove of Obama's job performance (NATCH), and some far left Dems disapprove (because they want Obama to be more far left).
    The extreme Repubs and the extreme far left are united in their disapproval of Obama's job performance.
    Talk about strange bedfellows!

    The problem for the Repubs is that those far left Dems who disapprove of Obama's job approval because they want him to be more far left - will come home and vote for Obama in 2012.
    When they see the radical right-wing Bush clone that the Repubs nominate, the far left will stop whining and bitching about how Obama isn't far left enough, and they will vote for Obama.
    With vigor.
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    Apr 22, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    I can't say much but will say this:

    The Obama 2012 Campaign & the DNC Relection 2012 Campaign are creating a multi-level platform so amazing and special that it will reset the bar beyond anything anyone has ever seen and redefine future election campaigns ... just when the talking heads and their ilk believe they have Obama figured out - they won't know the vocabulary to respond and, the RNC and those Wannabee Republican Prez Candidates will be obliterated in their attempts at communications and finance.

    Get ready boys - everything is about to change. What you've witnessed has been merely an analysis and adjustment from the "uber" destructive past of the Bush years ... there's excitement and real change a coming!

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    B787 saidI can't say much but will say this:

    The Obama 2012 Campaign & the DNC Relection 2012 Campaign are creating a multi-level platform so amazing and special that it will reset the bar beyond anything anyone has ever seen and redefine future election campaigns ... just when the talking heads and their ilk believe they have Obama figured out - they won't know the vocabulary to respond and, the RNC and those Wannabee Republican Prez Candidates will be obliterated in their attempts at communications and finance.

    Get ready boys - everything is about to change. What you've witnessed has been merely an analysis and adjustment from the "uber" destructive past of the Bush years ... there's excitement and real change a coming!

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    The GOP is just like Republican John Ensign from Nevada who just resigned......
    He dodged/ got away for about 18 months of his scandal....till now.....The GOP won't get away with too much longer with the sham they've been doing since Nov 2010.
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    Apr 22, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
    I wonder why I'm posting this here...



    ...oh wait, it's the theme song of president Hussein's BFFs.
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    FearTheFall saidI wonder why I'm posting this here...

    ...oh wait, it's the theme song of president Hussein's BFFs.


    I'm gonna say you posted it because you're a racist douche bag. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 22, 2011 11:06 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidWashington insiders always know long before the electorate knows - who is going to win the next election.
    In 2004, they knew that Bush would very likely win reelection - so only a weak group of second and third tier Democrats even sought the nomination.
    In 2008, they knew that the Democratic nominee would win, so the strongest Democratic candidates fought fiercely to get the nomination.
    In 2010, they knew that the Repubs would gain a boatload of seats.
    And for 2012 - they know that Obama will very likely get reelected - so only the nuttiest weakest most desperate Repubs are thinking of running.
    Stronger more credible Repubs are sitting on the sidelines and waiting for 2016.




    You got that right...
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    Apr 22, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    FearTheFall saidI wonder why I'm posting this here...

    ...oh wait, it's the theme song of president Hussein's BFFs.


    I'm gonna say you posted it because you're a racist douche bag. icon_rolleyes.gif





    Yeh, that's the ticket. That's the ticket.
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    Apr 22, 2011 11:18 PM GMT
    FearTheFall saidI wonder why I'm posting this here...



    ...oh wait, it's the theme song of president Hussein's BFFs.




    If this pathetic BS is the level of discourse we can expect to see from the Teabagger right-wingers - Obama will win in a landslide.
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    Apr 22, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    FearTheFall saidI wonder why I'm posting this here...

    ...oh wait, it's the theme song of president Hussein's BFFs.


    I'm gonna say you posted it because you're a racist douche bag. icon_rolleyes.gif


    ISLAM IS NOT A RACE.

    Good God. You lefties scream RAYCISS at anyone who disagrees before you think, maybe it's not racism, it's deserved disgust. Any religion that sanctions public hangings of gays should not be tolerated, and should be openly condemned.
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    Apr 22, 2011 11:36 PM GMT
    FearTheFall said
    Christian73 said
    FearTheFall saidI wonder why I'm posting this here...

    ...oh wait, it's the theme song of president Hussein's BFFs.


    I'm gonna say you posted it because you're a racist douche bag. icon_rolleyes.gif


    ISLAM IS NOT A RACE.

    Good God. You lefties scream RAYCISS at anyone who disagrees before you think, maybe it's not racism, it's deserved disgust. Any religion that sanctions public hangings of gays should not be tolerated, and should be openly condemned.





    It's not racist to call President Obama - "president Hussein"?
    Okay.
    Then he should have just called you a hatefilled "douchebag" instead of "a racist douchbag".
    Either way, that kind of lame "Hussein" crap won't help you right-wingers in 2012.
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    Apr 23, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    catfish5 said**crickets chirping**

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    Last 3 weeks been chirping.
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    Apr 23, 2011 12:47 AM GMT
    @TigerTim:

    The last two points - unilateral, total, and immediate withdrawal from the two wars and ignoring Libya - could actually be considered (paleo-)conservative positions.

    Both of which I strongly am in favor of.

    And while I find your other remarks to be accurate (government receivership/bailouts vs. outright nationalization of business, and HCR vs. truly socialized medicine along the British model)... those solutions are definitely come at a cost of great expanded government spending.

    @RickRick:

    I'm afraid you are right. Obama has the inherent strength of being a seated president, and a very weak slate of potential opposition in the GOP, combined with no truly glaring failures ... he will pretty much coast into 2012 with a comfortable margin of victory.

    Of course, I will not be surprised if 2016 turns out to be a nightmare for the Democratic brand, assuming that the Republic somehow survives the economic devastation awaiting us in 2012-2013.

    Lucky for Obama, the specter of massive inflation will impact after the election and not before as it did Carter.

    But it will not be pretty for whoever will be the Democratic Party's anointed in 2016.
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    Apr 24, 2011 4:17 PM GMT
    I still think it is WAY to early to make any real solid conclusions about the 2012 elections. So much can change in the scope of one year to completely change the entire political landscape. President Clinton came out of nowhere with very little national name-recognition in 1991 to gain the Democrat nomination and defeat President Bush in 1992. At roughly this same time in 2007 Rudy Giuliani was way ahead of the pack in the polls for the 2008 election, so you can't really read all that much into these silly polls. I think by late summer or early Fall there will be a much clearer picture of the Republican candidates and their potential. I do think Obama is vulnerable, but will be very hard to defeat short of a minor miracle and perhaps some event (or series of events) that are as yet unforeseen.
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    Apr 24, 2011 8:09 PM GMT
    Funny thing is no one has to be afraid of him, thats the point.

    I understand if you voted for your personal wants to be forfilled by him, like maybe haveing equality, you may well feel rightly let down about now, and his time too fulfill his promises is just about over too.

    There is no need to worry about Obama.

    Remember when you vote. Put your country first; I know I do.

    America Needs you
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    Apr 24, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    With the Obama administration being the meth lab of democracy, and the left worshiping Obama, while the rest are laughing at him.

    There is nothing to fear.
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    Apr 24, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    OBAMA LIED.

    THE ECONNOIMY DIED!