Republican War on GAY Continues

  • GQjock

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    Apr 23, 2011 11:51 AM GMT
    Before there was talk from the right wing think tanks that they are not winning the war on gay rights and marriage in particular
    So they came up with the plan that the WORDS gay or homosexual were not to be used because they were Too Positive

    Well here is the continuing saga along that path

    TN Senate Passes Don't Say Gay Bill
    NASHVILLE - After some convoluted maneuvers, a Senate committee Wednesday approved a bill that will prohibit teachers from discussing homosexuality in kindergarten through eighth-grade classrooms.


    Hey Teabag Group ...... whatever happened to that smaller less intrusive government that you were talkin about??

    What a Joke
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    Apr 23, 2011 11:53 AM GMT
    Well there goes the 1st amendment...
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    Apr 24, 2011 2:30 AM GMT
    I can just hear those rednecks testifying at the state Capitol about how the homosexuals are trying to "recruite our children in the classrooms" of our schools. Preachers are telling this shit to their 'followers' too, all based on ignorance and church affiliation, they won't stop at this if they stay in power either, there's a lot of work to be done by progressives if this trend is to be stopped, that is for sure.
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    Apr 24, 2011 5:24 AM GMT
    Gay republicans are like white Louis Farrakhan supporters.

    You wonder why. When you first look at them, your eyes are naturally drawn to their skull. You wonder what goes on inside that skull...which wires got crossed. You ask yourself....why do they support a movement that at best, finds them repulsive and considers them second class citizens...and at worst, advocates for their suffering and death.
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    Apr 24, 2011 5:57 AM GMT
    GQjock saidBefore there was talk from the right wing think tanks that they are not winning the war on gay rights and marriage in particular
    So they came up with the plan that the WORDS gay or homosexual were not to be used because they were Too Positive

    Well here is the continuing saga along that path

    TN Senate Passes Don't Say Gay Bill
    NASHVILLE - After some convoluted maneuvers, a Senate committee Wednesday approved a bill that will prohibit teachers from discussing homosexuality in kindergarten through eighth-grade classrooms.


    Hey Teabag Group ...... whatever happened to that smaller less intrusive government that you were talkin about??

    What a Joke


    Note that this is referring to the TENNESSEE State Senate. The Tea Party's larger focus is on limiting federal gov't intrusion into people's lives... though I certainly would agree that repealing Section 3 of DOMA if not the whole thing outright would be a better move.

    Unfortunately, as the old saying goes... "it won't sell well in Peoria..."
  • bmoney1

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    Apr 24, 2011 9:59 AM GMT
    Lol, find me one "teabagger" that could actually give a shit about what some senate committee from TN approved. Why exactly do people feel that the public education system is responsible for raising their children? If you want your child to know about homosexuality, teach them yourself. I think your little story is the perfect exemplification of how the teabag group advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government. Since the constitution of the United States does not give the federal government power to control minutia in the classroom, to the tune of a single word or subject, the teabaggers could care less. You AMOST had an interesting thread started UNTIL you ended your original post with an unjustified, ignorant attack on conservative Americans. So, please, save the ignorance for senate committees in TN- I would hate to see their ignorance proliferate into the forums of RJ.
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    Apr 24, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
    bmoney1 saidLol, find me one "teabagger" that could actually give a shit about what some senate committee from TN approved.

    Wrong. Social conservative, bigoted and religious right teabaggers (about 90% of all teabaggers) want bigotry written into ANY constitution. They use TN as a model for other states, just like they have repeatedly done with anti gay marriage amendments.

    bmoney1 said[quote]If you want your child to know about homosexuality, teach them yourself.[/quote]

    This has already been tried, and it failed miserably. As a result of "your way", millions of gay people have been abused, maimed, put in the hospital, wrongly jailed, harassed, bullied, fired from jobs and killed. No thanks. Schools teach scientific fact. Something conservatives and their churches seem to really hate.

    bmoney1 said[quote]I think your little story is the perfect exemplification of how the teabag group advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government. Since the constitution of the United States does not give the federal government power to control minutia in the classroom, to the tune of a single word or subject, the teabaggers could care less.[/quote]

    Your small federal government claim exposes you as stupid, ignorant or brainwashed. Over 97% of congressional republicans voted to keep you out of the military, because they believe you're too weak to control your perverted, repulsive sexual urges around 'normal' people. They also believe that you're unfit to be near children, and can't maintain a stable relationship with a spouse. They have repeatedly written or advocated laws to prohibit your entry into these areas.

    Small government? That only exists when they're talking about budgets for the SEC, EPA or other agencies that oversee the business activities of major republican financial supporters. I suggest you read up on plutocracy or fascism, or even any Noam Chomsky book...then come and tell me how your way is better.
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    Apr 24, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSays the frightened, gay, liberal drone from Ft. Lauderdale (Wilton Manors?).


    southbeach1500. Why don't you come over to Wilton Manors and tell me this in person...alone...in a back alley...after dark?

    You big 6' 165lb bruiser...lol
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    southbeach1500 saidSays the frightened, gay, liberal drone from Ft. Lauderdale (Wilton Manors?).


    southbeach1500. Why don't you come over to Wilton Manors and tell me this in person...alone...in a back alley...after dark?

    You big 6' 165lb bruiser...lol


    White, you do realize you're dealing with the male version of Anne Coulter?
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    Apr 24, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    OK, this brand of "teach your own children" should apply to Creationism, right?

    Or is 5-10% of the population (which is gay) not significant enough to be taught in social studies?
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    Apr 24, 2011 9:26 PM GMT
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    White4DarkerFL said
    southbeach1500 saidSays the frightened, gay, liberal drone from Ft. Lauderdale (Wilton Manors?).


    southbeach1500. Why don't you come over to Wilton Manors and tell me this in person...alone...in a back alley...after dark?

    You big 6' 165lb bruiser...lol


    White, you do realize you're dealing with the male version of Anne Coulter?


    Thanks for the heads up. I hit the ignore button...death penalty for an attention starved troll...lol.
  • bmoney1

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    Apr 24, 2011 10:32 PM GMT
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    bmoney1 saidLol, find me one "teabagger" that could actually give a shit about what some senate committee from TN approved.

    Wrong. Social conservative, bigoted and religious right teabaggers (about 90% of all teabaggers) want bigotry written into ANY constitution. They use TN as a model for other states, just like they have repeatedly done with anti gay marriage amendments.

    bmoney1 said[quote]If you want your child to know about homosexuality, teach them yourself.

    This has already been tried, and it failed miserably. As a result of "your way", millions of gay people have been abused, maimed, put in the hospital, wrongly jailed, harassed, bullied, fired from jobs and killed. No thanks. Schools teach scientific fact. Something conservatives and their churches seem to really hate.

    bmoney1 said[quote]I think your little story is the perfect exemplification of how the teabag group advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government. Since the constitution of the United States does not give the federal government power to control minutia in the classroom, to the tune of a single word or subject, the teabaggers could care less.[/quote]

    Your small federal government claim exposes you as stupid, ignorant or brainwashed. Over 97% of congressional republicans voted to keep you out of the military, because they believe you're too weak to control your perverted, repulsive sexual urges around 'normal' people. They also believe that you're unfit to be near children, and can't maintain a stable relationship with a spouse. They have repeatedly written or advocated laws to prohibit your entry into these areas.

    Small government? That only exists when they're talking about budgets for the SEC, EPA or other agencies that oversee the business activities of major republican financial supporters. I suggest you read up on plutocracy or fascism, or even any Noam Chomsky book...then come and tell me how your way is better.[/quote]

    When reason fails, to personal attacks we turn. What a relief to find independent thinkers that don't need a federal government over-stepping its boundaries to guide their thoughts and decide what is right for their neighbors' children to be taught in public schools. I must have been deprived of this information in my 3rd grade Human Genetics course- so, please tell me on which gene is the gay gene located? This includes chromosome number and the specific nucleotide sequence of both the wild-type and mutant forms as well as what phenotypic effects this gene has on an idividual. Until this can be done, a school teaching children about homosexuality would not be teaching scientific fact. Furthermore, I hve no problem with the so called fact of evolution being taught in public schools as long as creation is taught as well. Either teach them both or not at all (not at all being my preference) as the THEORY of evolution is no less a religous belief than creation. And perhaps the 97% of congressional republicans to which are referring voted to keep YOU out of the military. I don't need to be an open or flamboyant homosexual to serve my country, so no act of congress would prohibit me from doing so- should I have the desire. Besides that, your point there has NOTHING to do with my original statement about the Tea Party calling for a more responsible, less intrusive FEDERAL government. You might think twice before pejoratively discounting fiscal responsibility as well. Undeniably if unconstitutional federal government entities such as the SEC and EPA were on limited bugets, and the federal government was not operating on huge deficits to fund entitlements to people who believe the federal government was instituted of the people, for the people, and by the people to support them, we definitely would not be in the mess we are in now.
    If my way was good enough for our founding fathers, then by God it is good enough for me.
    I'm done and never coming back to this thread so I don't waste another 30 minutes of my life trying to convince someone to take some personal responsibility and not look to the government for all the answers.
    Peace and no hard feelings!
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    Apr 24, 2011 11:16 PM GMT
    bmoney1 saidLol, find me one "teabagger" that could actually give a shit about what some senate committee from TN approved. Why exactly do people feel that the public education system is responsible for raising their children? If you want your child to know about homosexuality, teach them yourself. I think your little story is the perfect exemplification of how the teabag group advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government. Since the constitution of the United States does not give the federal government power to control minutia in the classroom, to the tune of a single word or subject, the teabaggers could care less. You AMOST had an interesting thread started UNTIL you ended your original post with an unjustified, ignorant attack on conservative Americans. So, please, save the ignorance for senate committees in TN- I would hate to see their ignorance proliferate into the forums of RJ.


    Do us a favor and take a course on the foundations of education and why/how our education system was formed in this country before you spew your ignorance on this topic again.
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    Apr 24, 2011 11:58 PM GMT
    I guess we didn't see Teabaggers active in State & local elections in 2010. They're only concerned about Federal issues, huh? They sure disrupted enough local town meetings involving local candidates to make it seem otherwise. More Republican/Teabagger history revisionism we're getting here (my favorite being that they never termed themselves Teabaggers), from their most enthusiastic supporters.

    Also interesting that they can call gays here "frightened liberal drones" and "liberal hens," but start whining that they're running off to RJ Admin to complain as soon as someone returns the favor. Dontcha love cowards who can dish it out but can't take it?

    And who amazingly all seem to get their script material from the same right-wing sources. At best showing remarkable lack of originality & individual creativity, not to mention intellect, and at worst some coordinated efforts among them. Or maybe they really are just that mindlessly lemming-like.
  • musclmed

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    Apr 25, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
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    bmoney1 saidLol, find me one "teabagger" that could actually give a shit about what some senate committee from TN approved.

    Wrong. Social conservative, bigoted and religious right teabaggers (about 90% of all teabaggers) want bigotry written into ANY constitution. They use TN as a model for other states, just like they have repeatedly done with anti gay marriage amendments.

    bmoney1 said[quote]If you want your child to know about homosexuality, teach them yourself.

    This has already been tried, and it failed miserably. As a result of "your way", millions of gay people have been abused, maimed, put in the hospital, wrongly jailed, harassed, bullied, fired from jobs and killed. No thanks. Schools teach scientific fact. Something conservatives and their churches seem to really hate.

    bmoney1 said[quote]I think your little story is the perfect exemplification of how the teabag group advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government. Since the constitution of the United States does not give the federal government power to control minutia in the classroom, to the tune of a single word or subject, the teabaggers could care less.[/quote]

    Your small federal government claim exposes you as stupid, ignorant or brainwashed. Over 97% of congressional republicans voted to keep you out of the military, because they believe you're too weak to control your perverted, repulsive sexual urges around 'normal' people. They also believe that you're unfit to be near children, and can't maintain a stable relationship with a spouse. They have repeatedly written or advocated laws to prohibit your entry into these areas.

    Small government? That only exists when they're talking about budgets for the SEC, EPA or other agencies that oversee the business activities of major republican financial supporters. I suggest you read up on plutocracy or fascism, or even any Noam Chomsky book...then come and tell me how your way is better.[/quote]


    Well I would say you should look at the history of the 111th Congress, and Obama. Despite its "majority" it was dragged kicking and screaming into DODTrepeal. They did it from fear of embarrassment from the parallel federal lawsuit from Log Cabin Republicans.

    Naming Noam Chomsky, I would say makes it official. Your venom towards people you "think " you know is just that venom.

    You believe Chomsky? but every sentence you use a stereotype. hmm...



    I hope someone sends you a card or something, you need it.
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    Apr 25, 2011 1:27 AM GMT
    I like that Westboro can protest a funeral but we can't discuss sexual orientation at a time when most kids go through sex ed.
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    Apr 25, 2011 2:34 AM GMT
    bmoney1 saidWhen reason fails, to personal attacks we turn. What a relief to find independent thinkers that don't need a federal government over-stepping its boundaries to guide their thoughts and decide what is right for their neighbors' children to be taught in public schools. I must have been deprived of this information in my 3rd grade Human Genetics course- so, please tell me on which gene is the gay gene located? This includes chromosome number and the specific nucleotide sequence of both the wild-type and mutant forms as well as what phenotypic effects this gene has on an idividual. Until this can be done, a school teaching children about homosexuality would not be teaching scientific fact. Furthermore, I hve no problem with the so called fact of evolution being taught in public schools as long as creation is taught as well. Either teach them both or not at all (not at all being my preference) as the THEORY of evolution is no less a religous belief than creation. And perhaps the 97% of congressional republicans to which are referring voted to keep YOU out of the military. I don't need to be an open or flamboyant homosexual to serve my country, so no act of congress would prohibit me from doing so- should I have the desire. Besides that, your point there has NOTHING to do with my original statement about the Tea Party calling for a more responsible, less intrusive FEDERAL government. You might think twice before pejoratively discounting fiscal responsibility as well. Undeniably if unconstitutional federal government entities such as the SEC and EPA were on limited bugets, and the federal government was not operating on huge deficits to fund entitlements to people who believe the federal government was instituted of the people, for the people, and by the people to support them, we definitely would not be in the mess we are in now.
    If my way was good enough for our founding fathers, then by God it is good enough for me.
    I'm done and never coming back to this thread so I don't waste another 30 minutes of my life trying to convince someone to take some personal responsibility and not look to the government for all the answers.
    Peace and no hard feelings!


    No hard feelings bmoney1.

    The Tea Party is a 21st century rehash of Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy...namely, talk about cutting the federal government in favor of states rights in order to get elected. Of course, Regan, Bush and Nixon all expanded the federal government, but that's an argument for another day.

    Racism is part of southern culture, and republicans have exploited this for years. Southerners hate the federal government. It killed their sons, then confiscated & freed the slaves that drove southern businesses and way of life. Then in the 60's, the federal government forced integration upon southern culture and way of life. Today, they believe it helps Blacks disproportionately. Perhaps if my ancestors were killed and businesses destroyed, I would have been taught to think like you.

    You're from Texas...a confederate state. The Tea Party is enormously popular there because it's the South's only hope of restoring things back to the southern way. When Tea Party Rand Paul claimed a restaurant owner had the right to refuse service to Blacks...he was serious.

    I don't want to live in this sort of country.




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    Apr 25, 2011 2:34 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    White4DarkerFL said
    southbeach1500. Why don't you come over to Wilton Manors and tell me this in person...alone...in a back alley...after dark?

    You big 6' 165lb bruiser...lol


    Threatening violence?

    Gasp!



    What have I missed! (Grabs popcorn)....!

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  • musclmed

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    Apr 25, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
    White4DarkerFL said
    bmoney1 saidWhen reason fails, to personal attacks we turn. What a relief to find independent thinkers that don't need a federal government over-stepping its boundaries to guide their thoughts and decide what is right for their neighbors' children to be taught in public schools. I must have been deprived of this information in my 3rd grade Human Genetics course- so, please tell me on which gene is the gay gene located? This includes chromosome number and the specific nucleotide sequence of both the wild-type and mutant forms as well as what phenotypic effects this gene has on an idividual. Until this can be done, a school teaching children about homosexuality would not be teaching scientific fact. Furthermore, I hve no problem with the so called fact of evolution being taught in public schools as long as creation is taught as well. Either teach them both or not at all (not at all being my preference) as the THEORY of evolution is no less a religous belief than creation. And perhaps the 97% of congressional republicans to which are referring voted to keep YOU out of the military. I don't need to be an open or flamboyant homosexual to serve my country, so no act of congress would prohibit me from doing so- should I have the desire. Besides that, your point there has NOTHING to do with my original statement about the Tea Party calling for a more responsible, less intrusive FEDERAL government. You might think twice before pejoratively discounting fiscal responsibility as well. Undeniably if unconstitutional federal government entities such as the SEC and EPA were on limited bugets, and the federal government was not operating on huge deficits to fund entitlements to people who believe the federal government was instituted of the people, for the people, and by the people to support them, we definitely would not be in the mess we are in now.
    If my way was good enough for our founding fathers, then by God it is good enough for me.
    I'm done and never coming back to this thread so I don't waste another 30 minutes of my life trying to convince someone to take some personal responsibility and not look to the government for all the answers.
    Peace and no hard feelings!


    No hard feelings bmoney1.

    The Tea Party is a 21st century rehash of Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy...namely, talk about cutting the federal government in favor of states rights in order to get elected. Of course, Regan, Bush and Nixon all expanded the federal government, but that's an argument for another day.

    Racism is part of southern culture, and republicans have exploited this for years. Southerners hate the federal government. It killed their sons, then confiscated & freed the slaves that drove southern businesses and way of life. Then in the 60's, the federal government forced integration upon southern culture and way of life. Today, they believe it helps Blacks disproportionately. Perhaps if my ancestors were killed and businesses destroyed, I would have been taught to think like you.

    You're from Texas...a confederate state. The Tea Party is enormously popular there because it's the South's only hope of restoring things back to the southern way. When Tea Party Rand Paul claimed a restaurant owner had the right to refuse service to Blacks...he was serious.

    I don't want to live in this sort of country.





    You got it all figured out dont ya.....
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    bmoney1 saidLol, find me one "teabagger" that could actually give a shit about what some senate committee from TN approved. Why exactly do people feel that the public education system is responsible for raising their children? If you want your child to know about homosexuality, teach them yourself. I think your little story is the perfect exemplification of how the teabag group advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government. Since the constitution of the United States does not give the federal government power to control minutia in the classroom, to the tune of a single word or subject, the teabaggers could care less. You AMOST had an interesting thread started UNTIL you ended your original post with an unjustified, ignorant attack on conservative Americans. So, please, save the ignorance for senate committees in TN- I would hate to see their ignorance proliferate into the forums of RJ.


    Do us a favor and take a course on the foundations of education and why/how our education system was formed in this country before you spew your ignorance on this topic again.



    Has bmoney1 ever been snide to you? Has he ever addressed you in a disrespectful manner? If so, then I guess you are somewhat justified to carry over the hate towards him in this thread.

    However ... I suspect you have never had any interaction with bmoney1... so we are all left with just another of the dime a dozen RJ liberals being exceedingly nasty towards another RJ member that just happens to have a different political point of view.

    Lovely.


    You have no idea what my political ideology is and I couldn't care less what his political ideology is. As somebody who has taken graduate level courses on the foundations of education, I was just pointing out that his opinion is uneducated.
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    Apr 25, 2011 6:32 AM GMT
    Primary and Secondary education is one of those rights reserved to the many states.

    Some states are a little more conservative than others.

    I think the teaching of the Great Green Arkleseizure, and also the story about how Wotan ripped some ice giant in pieces to form the world ought to be taught on equal footing with the Bible Creation story and the story about how some particularly lucky and clever monkeys spoke to some monolith that came from space... oh wait a sec... icon_biggrin.gif
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    As somebody who has taken graduate level courses on the foundations of education, I was just pointing out that his opinion is uneducated.



    I have found - through actual life experience - that those who tout their "education / classes they taken" are among the most out of touch with the reality of the situation which they claim to be more "expert" on compared to the person they are challenging.

    Perhaps once you've left your mid 20s behind, you'll start to realize that there is much about the world that you don't yet know, and can only come to learn about by actually building up real life experience, as opposed to "taking courses."


    SB - that's a pathetic response. Expertise is expertise. What is your expertise on any of the issues you regularly post about (often inaccurately)?
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    I love the fact that bmoney1 talks about the theory of evolution as merely a "theory" while demanding specifics of a gay gene. Science education in this country is *criminally* inadequate.
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    bmoney1 saidWhen reason fails, to personal attacks we turn. What a relief to find independent thinkers that don't need a federal government over-stepping its boundaries to guide their thoughts and decide what is right for their neighbors' children to be taught in public schools. I must have been deprived of this information in my 3rd grade Human Genetics course- so, please tell me on which gene is the gay gene located? This includes chromosome number and the specific nucleotide sequence of both the wild-type and mutant forms as well as what phenotypic effects this gene has on an idividual. Until this can be done, a school teaching children about homosexuality would not be teaching scientific fact. Furthermore, I hve no problem with the so called fact of evolution being taught in public schools as long as creation is taught as well. Either teach them both or not at all (not at all being my preference) as the THEORY of evolution is no less a religous belief than creation. And perhaps the 97% of congressional republicans to which are referring voted to keep YOU out of the military. I don't need to be an open or flamboyant homosexual to serve my country, so no act of congress would prohibit me from doing so- should I have the desire. Besides that, your point there has NOTHING to do with my original statement about the Tea Party calling for a more responsible, less intrusive FEDERAL government. You might think twice before pejoratively discounting fiscal responsibility as well. Undeniably if unconstitutional federal government entities such as the SEC and EPA were on limited bugets, and the federal government was not operating on huge deficits to fund entitlements to people who believe the federal government was instituted of the people, for the people, and by the people to support them, we definitely would not be in the mess we are in now.
    If my way was good enough for our founding fathers, then by God it is good enough for me.
    I'm done and never coming back to this thread so I don't waste another 30 minutes of my life trying to convince someone to take some personal responsibility and not look to the government for all the answers.
    Peace and no hard feelings!


    No hard feelings bmoney1.

    The Tea Party is a 21st century rehash of Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy...namely, talk about cutting the federal government in favor of states rights in order to get elected. Of course, Regan, Bush and Nixon all expanded the federal government, but that's an argument for another day.

    Racism is part of southern culture, and republicans have exploited this for years. Southerners hate the federal government. It killed their sons, then confiscated & freed the slaves that drove southern businesses and way of life. Then in the 60's, the federal government forced integration upon southern culture and way of life. Today, they believe it helps Blacks disproportionately. Perhaps if my ancestors were killed and businesses destroyed, I would have been taught to think like you.

    You're from Texas...a confederate state. The Tea Party is enormously popular there because it's the South's only hope of restoring things back to the southern way. When Tea Party Rand Paul claimed a restaurant owner had the right to refuse service to Blacks...he was serious.

    I don't want to live in this sort of country.




    You got it all figured out dont ya.....


    Interesting summary. Do you agree with that assessment, musclemed?
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    Apr 25, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    Threads like this do nothing but to show many of the gay left of America to be petulant insecure, precious brats. Does this blind them to all the damage they and their hate has done, and that many of their actions and hate is not better than the ones they blame for their many issues, and insecurity.

    I thank god I am an Aussie poofter, and not an American gay; we are not not as precious.