Fuck piss shit hell! RJ throws your fucking posting away if you forget to put a title, so I am doing this for a second time and I want to be sure there is a title here before I write it all again. Son of a bitch! Caslon is pisssssssssed! Money, morals and the budget debate.

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    Apr 24, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    I am reading the book "Willful Blindness: Why we ignore the obvious at our peril" (See below) I am not the chapter "De-Moralizing Work." It is about how as soon as money enters into a task, the moral perspective on the task goes out the window. For example, people will donate more blood for free, than they will give if paid for it. When it is freely given, the people are focused on the moral aspects of giving and the good it will do for others. The people are feeling connected to the people who will benefit, even tho they are unknown. But once money is introduced into the equation, people stop considering the moral aspects and calculate strictly on the cost/benefit to themselves. Is the payment worth the time and effort they have to make to give blood? And once payment is made for volunteer work, the work level will go down and never come back up, even if the task is made purely volunteer again.

    This happens in business and is exactly what happened in the financial meltdown.

    However, the reason I bring this up is the current US budget debate. I am thinking that as long as the Repubs keep the focus on the numbers, the cost, the dollars, they will be able to keep people from viewing the budget from any moral or benefit perspective. If the Dems want to prevail, they must switch the focus off the numbers to get people to make any moral judgments on the composition of the budget. Medicare and Social Security are good places to start in my opinion, because people are familiar with them and get readily grasp the moral implications. With the people's focus changed from just the cost to the moral/benefit aspect of budget items, they will judge the budget discussion entirely different.



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    Synopsis

    Margaret Heffernan argues that the biggest threats and dangers we face are the ones we don't see—not because they're secret or invisible, but because we're willfully blind. A distinguished businesswoman and writer, she examines the phenomenon and traces its imprint in our private and working lives, and within governments and organizations, and asks: What makes us prefer ignorance? What are we so afraid of? Why do some people see more than others? And how can we change?

    Covering everything from our choice of mates to the SEC, Bernard Madoff's investors, the embers of BP's refinery, the military in Afghanistan, and the dog-eat-dog world of subprime mortgage lenders, this provocative book demonstrates how failing to see—or admit to ourselves or our colleagues—the issues and problems in plain sight can ruin private lives and bring down corporations. Heffernan explains how willful blindness develops before exploring ways that institutions and individuals can combat it. In the tradition of Malcolm Gladwell and Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Margaret Heffernan's Willful Blindness is a tour de force on human behavior that will open your eyes.



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    Apr 24, 2011 3:06 PM GMT
    Sounds right. I think I'll pick it up (or rather download it on my Nook). icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 24, 2011 3:15 PM GMT
    Something needs to wake up the masses because a huge percentage of them are very easily swayed by oft repeated propaganda to vote against their own interests. Hell of it is Caslon the far right repubs and baggers are already winning this battle by using moral values, like homosexuality is sin, as is all abortions and support Israel no matter what they do because Gods new jerusalem is coming down on old jerusalem. LOL !!!

    These moral issue voters will always go against their own interests to vote their morals because that's all they hear. So how would you use morals to reverse their already 'moral vote' ?
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    Apr 24, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    realifedad said Something needs to wake up the masses because a huge percentage of them are very easily swayed by oft repeated propaganda to vote against their own interests. Hell of it is Caslon the far right repubs and baggers are already winning this battle by using moral values, like homosexuality is sin, as is all abortions and support Israel no matter what they do because Gods new jerusalem is coming down on old jerusalem. LOL !!!

    These moral issue voters will always go against their own interests to vote their morals because that's all they hear. So how would you use morals to reverse their already 'moral vote' ?

    Maybe this will change too once people get used to seeing the moral consequences of their attitudes and vote. Right now, I think people have been so de-moralized that they are not really connecting anything to its moral implications. We are not connecting any of our actions to the effects on people's lives.

    Like in the Financial industry, where it became all about the numbers and they totally lost sight of the catastrophic consequences. ...Consequences that befell others btw because they managed to railroad the public into bailing them out with no responsibility attached to the bailout.
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    Apr 24, 2011 3:24 PM GMT
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    Apr 24, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    charlitos said6a00d8341e5ea453ef011570cb3fc7970b-320wi

    Here's something to spark your canadian interest:

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  • Nayro

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    Apr 27, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    ^
    Isn't that a bit uncalled for?
  • commoncoll

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    Apr 27, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    Canada does loom too close to the US.