Texas House Works to Kill College LGBT Centers

  • metta

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    Apr 26, 2011 8:53 AM GMT
    Texas House Works to Kill College LGBT Centers

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/04/25/Tex_House_Works_to_Kill_College_LGBT_Centers/
  • metta

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    Apr 26, 2011 8:59 AM GMT
    If this passes, I think that we should start a 'traditional values' organization to make fun of the idea of pushing 'traditional values' - treating women as property, encouraging slavery, superior races and orientations, etc.
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    Apr 26, 2011 1:16 PM GMT
    This article had a better photo:

    [url]http://gawker.com/#!5795320/republicans-will-end-homosexual-dominance-of-texas-universities[/url]

    I think there's a broader point here: politicians are not qualified to make executive decisions about the detailed running of universities. Experts have determined that LGBT centers are a good thing to have (and some are more effective than others).

    Why oh why are the Republicans so obsessed with academia?
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    Apr 26, 2011 1:23 PM GMT
    This just doesn't make any sense. What are "traditional values" anyway? Can you be more vague? Everybody has different values and everybody has different traditions. Why would you need something to "promote" families? People who want a family, have one. Those that don't, don't. How are you going to "promote" families? Encourage people to procreate? I guess they're saying they want to encourage heterosexuality but how is having a center for gays going to stop people from being heterosexual? Also, what is the "gay lifestyle"? There are as many lifestyles as there are gays. I just don't understand this on so many levels.
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    Apr 26, 2011 1:31 PM GMT
    metta8 saidIf this passes, I think that we should start a 'traditional values' organization to make fun of the idea of pushing 'traditional values' - treating women as property, encouraging slavery, superior races and orientations, etc.


    And you think Texas would discourage this? icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 26, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    Is there a way to nuke North Korea and Texas simultaneously?
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    Apr 26, 2011 1:42 PM GMT
    Doesn't the phrase "traditional values" just drive you nuts?? icon_evil.gif
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    Apr 26, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    miamimasseur saidThis just doesn't make any sense. What are "traditional values" anyway? Can you be more vague?

    It's not vague to a Texas Republican. It means their own idea of idealized Conservative, Christian, heterosexual values. Much like those the conservative Texas School Board voted for last year in their next textbooks.
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    Apr 26, 2011 2:00 PM GMT
    Chattman91 saidDoesn't the phrase "traditional values" just drive you nuts?? icon_evil.gif

    Yes, because many things have been "traditional" in this country in the past: slavery, racial hatred, bigotry, among others. But that is the core definition of Conservatism: to hold on to the past, not embrace change, not accept the future. A world that is forever as it was, no matter how wrong it may have been.

    Some RJ members here support Conservatism, because of one of its branches, Fiscal Conservatism. Except with Conservatives, when you buy into one part, you've bought the whole package. And as we can see with the laws passed by their recent legislative majorities given to them, their first priorities have been a Conservative social agenda, that target gays, not a fiscal agenda as they sold during the election.

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    Apr 26, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
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    miamimasseur saidThis just doesn't make any sense. What are "traditional values" anyway? Can you be more vague?

    It's not vague to a Texas Republican. It means their own idea of idealized Conservative, Christian, heterosexual values. Much like those the conservative Texas School Board voted for last year in their next textbooks.


    You nailed it with this post!
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    Apr 26, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
    Chattman91 saidDoesn't the phrase "traditional values" just drive you nuts?? icon_evil.gif


    Slavery was once a "tradition" too.
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    Apr 26, 2011 4:35 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidThis article had a better photo:

    [url]http://gawker.com/#!5795320/republicans-will-end-homosexual-dominance-of-texas-universities[/url]

    I think there's a broader point here: politicians are not qualified to make executive decisions about the detailed running of universities. Experts have determined that LGBT centers are a good thing to have (and some are more effective than others).

    Why oh why are the Republicans so obsessed with academia?


    Because the academia are their enemies... the only ones to understand what's going on and see through their cheap ass demagogy.
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    Apr 26, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    Sigh. That's pretty much why I left Texas at age 18, never to return (other than a brief sojourn in grad school).
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    Apr 26, 2011 5:12 PM GMT
    why am i not surprised?
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    Apr 26, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    Supporting "traditional values" is right-wing code for hating on gay Americans and working to deny equal rights for gays.

    The Repubs have been using this anti-gay catchphrase since the 1980's.
    It's just one of the many divisive wedge issue partisan political tactics the Repubs use to try to win votes, using the bigotry and intolerance of some voters.
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    Apr 27, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
    50 years from now, traditional values will include gay families. ("Alternative" values then may include bestiality.) icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 27, 2011 1:28 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Chattman91 saidDoesn't the phrase "traditional values" just drive you nuts?? icon_evil.gif


    Slavery was once a "tradition" too.



    But....but... they treated them good. Sometimes they even let them sleep on the porch.
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    Apr 27, 2011 1:29 AM GMT
    Remember when they tried to change the history books to sugarcoat slavery as well as leave out a founding father. They'll stop at nothing.
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    Apr 27, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
    GLBTQ Centers are an important part of any college or university. I have had a number of friends who took advantage of their services and I wish that I had one or had the courage to take advantage of GLBTQ groups during my first years in undergrad. To see others who are like you, to feel okay with yourself and not be limited by what others expect you to be and just accepted for who you are is incredibly important. Working as a staff member in higher education now, I see students who are struggling with their own sexuality and a GLBTQ center is an invaluable resource for them. While my evidence is anecdotal, I imagine that there would be a nice chunk of research on the importance of GLBTQ centers if you look in the right place.
    I am ashamed and hurt that my home state's leaders would even consider this legislation and can't help but hope that my younger siblings will choose to go somewhere out of state for college. At least then, they may have a better chance to experience diversity compared to public institutions in Texas.