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    Apr 04, 2008 5:10 PM GMT
    Democrats May Switch to GOP if Favorite Fails?

    In the early days of the Democratic race, voters partial to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama said they'd be happy with either one as the nominee.

    But some now say they will vote Republican if their candidate doesn't win.

    WTF!!??

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    Apr 04, 2008 5:15 PM GMT
    The equivalent to "I am not getting my way so I am taking my marbles and going home". If that is the attitude of some Democratic voters then they deserve another 4 years of the Elephant party (aka GOP).
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    Apr 04, 2008 5:23 PM GMT
    i'm so tired of this election.
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    Apr 04, 2008 5:52 PM GMT
    Election?? I thought Ringling Brothers circus was running things at this point icon_eek.gif . Dangit, and here I got me some popcorn and cotton candy!

    Seriously though, I just want this election (like all the ones before it) to be over already.
  • EricLA

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    Apr 04, 2008 7:37 PM GMT
    You know, I think this could just be the media out of control and stoking things. A CBS News poll this weeks reveals 81% of the country is unhappy about the direction the country is headed in. If the economy and Iraq continue in the direction their headed, and every indication is that it is, do you think Democrats are really going to vote for McCain (aka Bush the 3rd)? I don't think so. Of course, the worse that can happen is those people stay home. That's a more likely scenario, which could have the same affect. But, again, I think a Democratic candidate is going to look a lot better come November than "stay the course." Besides, a lot can happen between now and November. And if the Democratic pick is resolved before the convention, which I think it still could be, then that will give the party a lot of time to focus on the general election. If the choice is Obama, as everything points to at this point, he's raising money left and right over McCain. McCain is having trouble attracting the big donors that helped get Bush elected. So, that gives the Democrats yet another edge.

    That said, if Hillary pulls it out and becomes the nominee, I won't be happy. But I would vote for her come November.
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    Apr 04, 2008 7:44 PM GMT
    Ann Coulter and Rush said they would vote for Hillary if McCain were the GOP nominee (this was when Romney and Huckabee were still vying for the nomination). It's all bluffing, to try to influence others.

    Now if the attacks between Hillary and Obama continue, then there may very well be some disgruntled Dems who stay home, or vote differently (for Nader, as an example) as a protest. vote. But I can't stay party mainstream voting for the opposite party candidate because their particualar party favorite didn't win the nomination.
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    Apr 04, 2008 7:46 PM GMT
    Well, you also had dittoheads like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter encouraging Republicans to vote for Hillary if McCain were to become the Rep. nominee, so this phenomenon is not unique to the Democrats. I think these pundits would almost rather a Democrat win the Whitehouse in 2008 so that they can gloat in 2012 about Democrat foibles and follies. Always thinking ahead. icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 04, 2008 7:46 PM GMT
    Whoops. Latin beat me to it.
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    Apr 04, 2008 7:49 PM GMT
    I just hope for Americans turn out to VOTE in November and that they attempt to vote for intelligent, thoughtful, level-headed candidates - regardless of party, etc. (Although I will wish that they elect fewer overly religious people. It's one thing to have a faith, to live and practice it. Quite another to foist it on the rest of us.)
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    Apr 04, 2008 7:50 PM GMT
    I really do think there are people out there that have so much hatred for the Clinton's and have bought into this so-called "dynasty" that they would actually consider voting across party lines in order to "show" her/them.

    Hell, I even talked to a few Democrats that said they would do so....and they're not the only ones. Recent polling shows that almost 30 percent of Clinton supporters and nearly 20 percent of Obama supporters say that if their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, they'll vote Republican.

    I for one don't care if it ends up being Obama or Clinton, I'm voting DEMOCRAT.



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    Apr 04, 2008 7:58 PM GMT
    Polls are nothing more than a snap shot of mood at a particular time. Right now, when the Dem primary is at its fiercest, it is no wonder you can get a poll results like this.

    Considering the unbelievable new voter registration, cross-party voting, and record turn outs I doubt these numbers will stick around much past PA.
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    Apr 04, 2008 8:36 PM GMT
    I agree with VineyardHmo on this. When I talk to people who vote, I'm astounded at how many of them are completely uninformed and/or tunnel-visioned on the issues and policies.

    I'm reminded of the Cheers episode were Sam says to Diane after demonstrating one of his pickup lines: (I'm paraphrasing this a little)

    "You're bothered by the fact that I can get any woman with these lines."

    To which Diane replies:

    "Do you know what bothers me. Their are women who believe this and they are allowed to vote and drive cars."
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    Apr 04, 2008 11:12 PM GMT
    Yeah, I think it's bluffing. If you're REALLY an Obama or Clinton fan, McCain is not your guy. Although I may be generalizing. Does anyone reading this think this describes your boat? I truly doubt the veracity of the polls in this case.
  • Timbales

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    Apr 04, 2008 11:14 PM GMT
    I don't like any of them to be honest, but I am a registered Democrat and think McCain is the least bad of the lot.
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    Apr 04, 2008 11:30 PM GMT
    If Obama doesn't get the nomination, I'll definitely throw my vote to Hillary. I don't think she's the right one for the job, but I'd rather have her in there than McCain, any day. Ralph Nader, by the way, is a joke... a bad joke that steals votes from candidates that actually have a chance to win the election. He's also dense... after all his gazillion bids for the White House that he's lost, and he's still delusional enough to run yet again. Duh, Ralph! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 05, 2008 10:16 AM GMT
    VineyardHmo saidDemocrats May Switch to GOP if Favorite Fails?

    In the early days of the Democratic race, voters partial to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama said they'd be happy with either one as the nominee.

    But some now say they will vote Republican if their candidate doesn't win.

    WTF!!??



    It sounds like the Dubya reelection all over again. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 05, 2008 9:38 PM GMT
    I am really disappointed in some of the crap that Hillary's campaign has done
    but never would I ever think of voting for a republican

    ... and get the same f**ked up mess that we have now
    What are you kidding?

    These people are nuts
  • SkyMiles

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    Apr 05, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    I hope it's all nonsense, just people saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff.

    I can't imagine anyone supporting Hillary or Obama (or Edwards, Kucinich, Dodd, etc.) turning about-face and voting for McSame, who's promised 100 years in Iraq, knows nothing about the economy, is beyond clueless on race-relations and gay rights, has his whole freakin' campaign run and staffed by corporate lobbyists, and wants to 'bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran.'

    Stop the insanity icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 05, 2008 10:07 PM GMT
    I have a feeling that some of this is due to the strong words and aggressive tactics used. Maybe people have just gotten angry. I think though that Hillary and Obama have very different personalities so the people they attract will be different too.

    I have noticed though with some of my traditionally conservative gay friends (military), they pretty much hate Hillary and have said if Obama does not get it they will go with McCain.

    I am pretty sure in either case I will go democratic, because the economic and war views are more in sync with mine. I will be honest though and say I have a distrust towards Hillary, but its better to get some of what you want than none of it.
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    Apr 15, 2008 12:46 PM GMT
    "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" Why colbert nation; you say it like it's a bad thing.