Planet Earth is expanding :O

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    Apr 28, 2011 11:03 PM GMT
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    Apr 28, 2011 11:10 PM GMT
    It's expanding because... it ate the dinosaurs!
    (Or is just trying to keep up with the universe?)


    The theory is very sound... except for three things I don't understand.
    And which I hope you can explain.

    1. Didn't the moon emerge from the Pacific?
    How did it fit in before?

    2. Where did Atlantis go?

    3. Where did all the water come from?
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    Apr 28, 2011 11:18 PM GMT
    the earth is expanding because of all the mcdonalds springing up, pretty soon mother earth could have a heart attack and we need to invent a giant defibrillator to jump start it.

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    Apr 28, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidIt's expanding because... it ate the dinosaurs!
    (Or is just trying to keep up with the universe?)


    The theory is very sound... except for three things I don't understand.
    And which I hope you can explain.

    1. Didn't the moon emerge from the Pacific?
    How did it fit in before?

    2. Where did Atlantis go?

    3. Where did all the water come from?


    dont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.
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    Apr 29, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    The earth is slowly exploding. That's why we have volcanoes.
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    Apr 29, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    Caesarea4 saidIt's expanding because... it ate the dinosaurs!
    (Or is just trying to keep up with the universe?)


    The theory is very sound... except for three things I don't understand.
    And which I hope you can explain.

    1. Didn't the moon emerge from the Pacific?
    How did it fit in before?

    2. Where did Atlantis go?

    3. Where did all the water come from?


    dont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.


    The moon is actually pieces of earth that blew off when another planet collided with it and reformed in orbit.
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    Apr 29, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    perhaps but increasing obesity rates bring sufficient counterweight.
    not worried.
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    Apr 29, 2011 12:44 AM GMT
    charlitos saiddont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    If I don't yell at you, who will?
    (It's not like you have enemies at the gate.)


    charlitos said1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.

    1. OK, I can run with that. As the earth expanded, so did its gravitational pull and it stole a moon from somewhere.
    [Never mind that gravity is a function of mass, and we didn't yet have all that water weight.]

    2. Can't you buy a clue or call a friend?

    3. No, see, if the plates were swimming on the water, then the water was always there.

    On the other hand, I may have a biblical explanation for #3.. interested?
    A true reading of Genesis 1:1, as never before [correctly!] translated or interpreted!
    [Disclaimer: snake oil not included, but it sure can help move massive plates.]
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    Apr 29, 2011 12:52 AM GMT
    I like this idea a lot except for of course the lack of the moon explanation and that there was no explanation of "snowball earth".
    I thought the earth was expanding because the weight of the moon pulled it out of a spherical shape.

    The guy has a pretty convincing 3 minute argument.
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    Apr 29, 2011 1:18 AM GMT
    Caesarea4 said
    charlitos saiddont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    If I don't yell at you, who will?
    (It's not like you have enemies at the gate.)


    charlitos said1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.

    1. OK, I can run with that. As the earth expanded, so did its gravitational pull and it stole a moon from somewhere.
    [Never mind that gravity is a function of mass, and we didn't yet have all that water weight.]

    2. Can't you buy a clue or call a friend?

    3. No, see, if the plates were swimming on the water, then the water was always there.

    On the other hand, I may have a biblical explanation for #3.. interested?
    A true reading of Genesis 1:1, as never before [correctly!] translated or interpreted!
    [Disclaimer: snake oil not included, but it sure can help move massive plates.]


    mmm I thought tectonic plates didnt swim on water, that they were just thinner were the water is. Its a scientific consensus that there wasnt water on earth in the beginning, it either came from outer space or got formed through chemical reactions later on.

    I like the bible as much as a like L'Iliade by Homer
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    Apr 29, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    Here's a summary of other issues with the theory from wikipedia

    WikipediaGenerally, the Scientific community finds no evidence to support the expansion of the Earth theory, and uses the following arguments to dismiss it:

    Measurements with modern high-precision geodetic techniques show that the Earth is not currently increasing in size, and there is no source of energy to power expansion. This in contrast to plate tectonics, which is supported by a large range of geological and geophysical measurements, including direct measurements of plate motions by geodesy and of subduction at plate boundaries.[13][14][15]

    Mass accretion on a scale required to change the Earth's radius is contradicted by the current accretion rate of the Earth, and by the Earth's average internal temperature: any accretion releases a lot of energy, which would warm the planet's interior. Expanding Earth models based on thermal expansion contradict most modern principles from rheology, and fail to provide an acceptable explanation for the proposed melting and phase transitions.

    Paleomagnetic data has been used to calculate that the radius of the Earth 400 million years ago was 102 ± 2.8% of today's radius.[16][17]

    Examinations of data from the Paleozoic and Earth's moment of inertia suggest that there has been no significant change of earth's radius in the last 620 million years.[18]
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    Apr 29, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    My IQ just went down
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    Apr 29, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    I was hoping this was going to be about a second edition of the television series. icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 29, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
    This theory completely ignores "Subduction".. which has accounted for the Great Quakes we have recently experienced as well as the deepest trenches on the earth. As the Oceans cover 2/3 of the planet.. I guess the planet has tripled in size according to them...

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    Apr 29, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
    Where'd the water come from?
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    Apr 29, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
    ....


    Even if you proved it to me. I wouldn't believe you.
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    Apr 29, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
    Caslon18000 saidWhere'd the water come from?


    the dinosaurs peed it out.
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    Apr 29, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
    charlitos saidmmm I thought tectonic plates didnt swim on water, that they were just thinner were the water is.

    Of course, plates are heavier than water.
    That they are thinner where the water is shows that they shed water weight.
    (That's why the seas are salty - sweat!)


    charlitos saidIts a scientific consensus that there wasnt water on earth in the beginning, it either came from outer space or got formed through chemical reactions later on.

    I like the bible as much as a like L'Iliade by Homer

    Yes, they are similar mythos. While it was cute to remove the gods from the recent movie "Troy", putting in a finely chiseled Brad Pitt confused me (his boyfriend, I mean arms bearer, was also almost godlike).

    Anyhow, the very first verse of the Bible, as we all know is:
    "Brashitbraelhimethshmymvethartz"
    (Note: under vowels not included. Originally there were no spaces between words, either.)

    In Hebrew, shmym is sky/heavens while mym is water. And shm is there, as in "over there".

    So obviously there was a typo (have you seen the clunky keyboards they had back then?!) and what was really created was the earth and water.

    On the other hand, there is no mention of plates in the Biblical account, but this may have more to do with Shulchan Aruch (the Set Table) which didn't come out until the 16th century.
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    Apr 29, 2011 2:49 AM GMT
    Yea another stupid Scientist....someone shoot him before he makes other people stupid!!!
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    Apr 29, 2011 3:59 AM GMT
    sdgman saidThis theory completely ignores "Subduction".. ...



    Subduction is real. I remember subducting guys in their 30's when I was about 15. Afterwards, they would ask how old I was and when I told them, they would say...
    Apollo_GTFO.jpg

    I'd say, "Oh, no! You're too hot for one ride only. We've gotta go at it one more time or I'll tell."

    We'd fuck again and I'd leave very happy. Sometimes it would end with head.
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    Apr 29, 2011 4:05 AM GMT
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    Caesarea4 saidIt's expanding because... it ate the dinosaurs!
    (Or is just trying to keep up with the universe?)


    The theory is very sound... except for three things I don't understand.
    And which I hope you can explain.

    1. Didn't the moon emerge from the Pacific?
    How did it fit in before?

    2. Where did Atlantis go?

    3. Where did all the water come from?


    dont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.


    The moon is actually pieces of earth that blew off when another planet collided with it and reformed in orbit.



    Yup the general belief is that the moon was formed after a huge collision with a smaller planet sized rock. The debris in orbit then condensed into the moon - at one point the moon was MUCH closer to the earth and its orbit moves away at about 1-2 inches per year.

    Water was believed to be carried to the earth by the collision of multiple meteors/comets which carry frozen water from space and delivered it several billion years ago. Simple proteins were also carried on the meteroids which brought the basic building blocks to life to earth.

    Once simple bacteria developed - the atmosphere formed as they converted sunlight to energy and the biproduct of that process is oxygen.


    Clearly, I need to watch less Science channel and read all this shit day and night like I currently do - Im just fascinated by it all.
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    Apr 29, 2011 4:06 AM GMT
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    hazardous said
    charlitos said
    Caesarea4 saidIt's expanding because... it ate the dinosaurs!
    (Or is just trying to keep up with the universe?)


    The theory is very sound... except for three things I don't understand.
    And which I hope you can explain.

    1. Didn't the moon emerge from the Pacific?
    How did it fit in before?

    2. Where did Atlantis go?

    3. Where did all the water come from?


    dont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.


    The moon is actually pieces of earth that blew off when another planet collided with it and reformed in orbit.



    Yup the general belief is that the moon was formed after a huge collision with a smaller planet sized rock. The debris in orbit then condensed into the moon - at one point the moon was MUCH closer to the earth and its orbit moves away at about 1-2 inches per year.

    Water was believed to be carried to the earth by the collision of multiple meteors/comets which carry frozen water from space and delivered it several billion years ago. Simple proteins were also carried on the meteroids which brought the basic building blocks to life to earth.

    Once simple bacteria developed - the atmosphere formed as they converted sunlight to energy and the biproduct of that process is oxygen.


    Clearly, I need to watch less Science channel and read all this shit day and night like I currently do - Im just fascinated by it all.


    im turned on. just saying. icon_twisted.gif
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    Apr 29, 2011 5:59 AM GMT
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    charlitos said
    Caesarea4 saidIt's expanding because... it ate the dinosaurs!
    (Or is just trying to keep up with the universe?)


    The theory is very sound... except for three things I don't understand.
    And which I hope you can explain.

    1. Didn't the moon emerge from the Pacific?
    How did it fit in before?

    2. Where did Atlantis go?

    3. Where did all the water come from?


    dont yell at me i dont support this theory but I can try to explain some of your questions.

    1. Considering the increase in size happens gradually for billions of years I would say initially there was no moon and probably it entered the earth's orbit once our planet was a decent size.... I suppose when a planet grows in size its orbit and position in the solar system will also be affected due to the increase of gravitational mass?

    2. No Clue

    3. Comets, but still not relevant to this theory....we still have to explain where all this water came from with or without expansion.


    The moon is actually pieces of earth that blew off when another planet collided with it and reformed in orbit.




    its not a moon, its a space station for aliens
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    Apr 29, 2011 6:05 AM GMT
    Pseudoscience in its purest form.