Are republicans real?

  • andreseward

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    May 01, 2011 6:36 AM GMT
    i use the phrase is _______ real? when talking about people and situations that are so ridiculous that it is hard to believe they are real.

    so, like i just dont understand republicans really? i mean i understand if you have anti-people political views and all that and are just fuck crazy. but when you actively go against the people who voted you in. what the fuck is that.

    i just think republicans are completely ridiculous and can't last much longer. this surge of crazy will hopefully die out soon.

    thoughts?


    i KNOW democrats are far from perfect as well, but damn at least they arent completely crazy aha
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    May 01, 2011 8:25 AM GMT
    OMG should one then not judge all gay and bisexual democrats in America, by those here at RJ? Because they seem truly insecure, repressive, petulant, and precious. I have known many American Republicans down here in Oz, and I have never seen the hate that I have first hand experienced here at RJ.

    They pact like wolves, and the moment you see two conservatives show some respect, they scream like wet cat at the injustice of it all.

    If this is what the change they want looks like. The founding forefathers are rolling in their grave; welcome to Socialist States of America.

    But.....then you are also only 18; be blessed.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 01, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
    andreseward saidi use the phrase is _______ real? when talking about people and situations that are so ridiculous that it is hard to believe they are real.

    so, like i just dont understand republicans really? i mean i understand if you have anti-people political views and all that and are just fuck crazy. but when you actively go against the people who voted you in. what the fuck is that.

    i just think republicans are completely ridiculous and can't last much longer. this surge of crazy will hopefully die out soon.

    thoughts?


    i KNOW democrats are far from perfect as well, but damn at least they arent completely crazy aha





    Ahhhhh, the things that come from the mouths of babes. The Republican Party has been around for over 150 years, and I suspect it will still be around 150 years from now. Many great men have emerged from the Republican Party from Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt to Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan to influence and shape this country. No political party is perfect. Both have their share of great leaders and embarrassing crazies.
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    May 01, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    The republican party was hijacked by the extreme right religious fundamentals about 30 years ago and was rotted from the inside out. People like Carl Rove destroyed it from the inside as well with greed and absolute power at any cost. Its sad, because as CuriousAZ said, many great men have come from that party but it was well before it was rotted as it is today.
  • tazzari

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    May 01, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    "Many great men have emerged from the Republican Party from Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt to Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan"

    The party of Lincoln, Roosevelt and even Reagan was a completely different party. It used to be a party of solid ideas you could debate with, agree or disagree, and a party of serious public-minded men of achievement. I even used to vote for GOP candidates! Very sadly, because the rot spreads into the whole country, the GOP is now a collection of various fanatics, no longer interested in debate, and only interested in power - for itself and for GOP adherents.

    The rot of the GOP is a very sad and destructive thing for our country.
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    May 01, 2011 3:27 PM GMT
    They are certainly very real. They used to be called Southern Democrats.icon_lol.gif
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    May 01, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    tazzari said... The rot of the GOP is a very sad and destructive thing for our country.

    It is very interesting how parties are seen from the perspective of various individuals. Many conservatives believe that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by the far left, willing to sacrifice the moderate blue-dogs. The conservatives believe the programs advocated by the far left, such as bigger government, and income and wealth/asset redistribution will ultimately make all classes worse off. Many conservatives believe that some on the far left go even further, believing it unjust for the US to have a higher standard of living than the poorest country, and see this inequality as a reason to punish the US citizens of all classes by higher taxes, higher prices, especially gas prices, to lower our standard of living. The Democratic Party is also seen as fundamentally corrupt, as evidenced by the NLRB trying to prevent Boeing from adding new jobs in a state that does not support their union allies.

    From this perspective, the Democratic Party is seen as the real destructive influence in the US. I think many, even conservatives, would welcome a Democratic Party without the corruption and a more moderate position, as ultimately two strong parties work best.
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 01, 2011 3:47 PM GMT
    socalfitness said


    From this perspective, the Democratic Party is seen as the real destructive influence in the US. I think many, even conservatives, would welcome a Democratic Party without the corruption and a more moderate position, as ultimately two strong parties work best.


    Substitute "Republican" in your paragraph twice and "progressives" for conservatives and I think we'd have a correct statement....lol
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    May 01, 2011 5:26 PM GMT
    The republican party is self destructing. Among the members of the GOP dominating the media, can u even find a "responsible adult?" We can't even have a civil debate in the country. Some in the GOP always pull out bombastics claims based on lies- Democrats say healthcare, republicans say "death panel." Democrats say school teacher, republicans say "union leach." Democrats say Obama and republicans say Kenyan.
    Republicans can't run a successful party platform on lies and half truths.
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    May 01, 2011 5:31 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidThe republican party was hijacked by the extreme right religious fundamentals about 30 years ago and was rotted from the inside out. People like Carl Rove destroyed it from the inside as well with greed and absolute power at any cost. Its sad, because as CuriousAZ said, many great men have come from that party but it was well before it was rotted as it is today.


    I agree. As I've said before, I'd probably be a Republican if the party hadn't sold its soul for power on the "social" issues - like homosexuality.
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    May 01, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    I think the downfall of the republican party in the last 30 years has been its hypocritical ties to the far right Christian Fundamentalists. They bring this ideological shortsighted approach to everything that 'we are right because god is on our side', a mentality that 'its us against them', 'good against the evil' and the them, the evil is anyone who disagrees.

    I have such person in my family who says, "when your right you don't compromise, you don't need to because your right", So goes the republican party these days, there's nor real conversation, no give and take, very little real compromising with these people like with Bush 1 and back. the moderates have been run off as "RINO'S".

    Its a shame because we need two party's, one balances the other out, but with the current TBagger influenced intractablility, no negotiating, my way or the highway mentality to their politics, its looking pretty bleak for reasonable outcomes. The Hypocritical part of the equation is that this group uses 'God is with us' as an excuse for using any tactics to win, whether its lies or personal destruction, just win, the method is not a problem because they are right. Its pathetic !!!
  • andreseward

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    May 02, 2011 6:23 PM GMT
    i was talking about the republican party as it is TODAY not how it was some 100+ years ago, and if you knew anything about history you would know that the republican and democratic parties from the past have completely reversed places.

    ALSO
    my biggest amount of disbelief with republicans is that they are actively going against their constituency. in wisconsin and other states that elected republican governors, those governors attacked public sector workers... and when the workers (a large amount republican) protested the legislation against them, the governors.. most notably scott walker in Wisconsin told them "i dont care what you want, I'M doing this anyway"

    during this congressional recess, many of the town hall meetings republican congress members have had demonstrated the frustration of their constituencies on the proposed republican bill especially over the proposed changes to medicare/medicaid and all that jazz. so OBVIOUSLY those republicans in power are experiencing extreme disconnect with their support base.

    even with non-important social issues like abortion and gay marriage republicans continue to make this an issue while the american public as a whole would prefer for them to focus on creating jobs and restoring the economy, something that democrats have at least attempted to do.

    at least democrats attempt to represent their constituency, as opposed to completely ignoring them in favor of personal interests in the gains of power and money.

    with all this said, democrats are certainly not perfect, many behave just like republicans. but they aren't as crazy.


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    May 02, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    andreseward saidi use the phrase is _______ real? when talking about people and situations that are so ridiculous that it is hard to believe they are real.

    so, like i just dont understand republicans really? i mean i understand if you have anti-people political views and all that and are just fuck crazy. but when you actively go against the people who voted you in. what the fuck is that.

    i just think republicans are completely ridiculous and can't last much longer. this surge of crazy will hopefully die out soon.

    thoughts?


    i KNOW democrats are far from perfect as well, but damn at least they arent completely crazy aha





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    May 03, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    andreseward saidi was talking about the republican party as it is TODAY not how it was some 100+ years ago, and if you knew anything about history you would know that the republican and democratic parties from the past have completely reversed places.

    ALSO
    my biggest amount of disbelief with republicans is that they are actively going against their constituency. in wisconsin and other states that elected republican governors, those governors attacked public sector workers... and when the workers (a large amount republican) protested the legislation against them, the governors.. most notably scott walker in Wisconsin told them "i dont care what you want, I'M doing this anyway"

    during this congressional recess, many of the town hall meetings republican congress members have had demonstrated the frustration of their constituencies on the proposed republican bill especially over the proposed changes to medicare/medicaid and all that jazz. so OBVIOUSLY those republicans in power are experiencing extreme disconnect with their support base.

    even with non-important social issues like abortion and gay marriage republicans continue to make this an issue while the american public as a whole would prefer for them to focus on creating jobs and restoring the economy, something that democrats have at least attempted to do.

    at least democrats attempt to represent their constituency, as opposed to completely ignoring them in favor of personal interests in the gains of power and money.

    with all this said, democrats are certainly not perfect, many behave just like republicans. but they aren't as crazy.




    There's no "attacking" of public workers here in Wisconsin. People choose to work for government, government says we can't afford to give you as many benefits as we used to (in the same way that a private sector employer would). If someone doesn't like the benefits they can get a job elsewhere!

    Wisconsin has a slight silent majority that supports Walker, despite all of the hullabaloo.

    I don't mean to condescend, but you are 18 and have a lot of experiences ahead of you. As you get older you might start understanding the issues more.
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    May 03, 2011 3:11 PM GMT
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    andreseward saidi was talking about the republican party as it is TODAY not how it was some 100+ years ago, and if you knew anything about history you would know that the republican and democratic parties from the past have completely reversed places.

    ALSO
    my biggest amount of disbelief with republicans is that they are actively going against their constituency. in wisconsin and other states that elected republican governors, those governors attacked public sector workers... and when the workers (a large amount republican) protested the legislation against them, the governors.. most notably scott walker in Wisconsin told them "i dont care what you want, I'M doing this anyway"

    during this congressional recess, many of the town hall meetings republican congress members have had demonstrated the frustration of their constituencies on the proposed republican bill especially over the proposed changes to medicare/medicaid and all that jazz. so OBVIOUSLY those republicans in power are experiencing extreme disconnect with their support base.

    even with non-important social issues like abortion and gay marriage republicans continue to make this an issue while the american public as a whole would prefer for them to focus on creating jobs and restoring the economy, something that democrats have at least attempted to do.

    at least democrats attempt to represent their constituency, as opposed to completely ignoring them in favor of personal interests in the gains of power and money.

    with all this said, democrats are certainly not perfect, many behave just like republicans. but they aren't as crazy.




    There's no "attacking" of public workers here in Wisconsin. People choose to work for government, government says we can't afford to give you as many benefits as we used to (in the same way that a private sector employer would). If someone doesn't like the benefits they can get a job elsewhere!

    Wisconsin has a slight silent majority that supports Walker, despite all of the hullabaloo.


    Mock - You're being ridiculous. There is no economic benefit - according to Walker himself - in terms of getting rid of collective bargaining. And there is no silent majority in WI. Walker's poll numbers are in the toilet and activists have collected enough signatures to start recalls on 4-5 Republican state senators versus zero for recall Democratic state senators.
  • rnch

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    May 03, 2011 3:17 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidThe republican party was hijacked by the extreme right religious fundamentals about 30 years ago and was rotted from the inside out. People like Carl Rove destroyed it from the inside as well with greed and absolute power at any cost. Its sad, because as CuriousAZ said, many great men have come from that party but it was well before it was rotted as it is today.




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    this middle of the road, former GOPer is disgusted over what the Religious Right has done to what used to be the political party of choice for fiscally responsible voters. i gave up on the GOP in the late 80's.


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    May 03, 2011 5:41 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    andreseward saidi was talking about the republican party as it is TODAY not how it was some 100+ years ago, and if you knew anything about history you would know that the republican and democratic parties from the past have completely reversed places.

    ALSO
    my biggest amount of disbelief with republicans is that they are actively going against their constituency. in wisconsin and other states that elected republican governors, those governors attacked public sector workers... and when the workers (a large amount republican) protested the legislation against them, the governors.. most notably scott walker in Wisconsin told them "i dont care what you want, I'M doing this anyway"

    during this congressional recess, many of the town hall meetings republican congress members have had demonstrated the frustration of their constituencies on the proposed republican bill especially over the proposed changes to medicare/medicaid and all that jazz. so OBVIOUSLY those republicans in power are experiencing extreme disconnect with their support base.

    even with non-important social issues like abortion and gay marriage republicans continue to make this an issue while the american public as a whole would prefer for them to focus on creating jobs and restoring the economy, something that democrats have at least attempted to do.

    at least democrats attempt to represent their constituency, as opposed to completely ignoring them in favor of personal interests in the gains of power and money.

    with all this said, democrats are certainly not perfect, many behave just like republicans. but they aren't as crazy.




    There's no "attacking" of public workers here in Wisconsin. People choose to work for government, government says we can't afford to give you as many benefits as we used to (in the same way that a private sector employer would). If someone doesn't like the benefits they can get a job elsewhere!

    Wisconsin has a slight silent majority that supports Walker, despite all of the hullabaloo.


    Mock - You're being ridiculous. There is no economic benefit - according to Walker himself - in terms of getting rid of collective bargaining. And there is no silent majority in WI. Walker's poll numbers are in the toilet and activists have collected enough signatures to start recalls on 4-5 Republican state senators versus zero for recall Democratic state senators.


    Actually, the supreme court justice election was seen by many as a response to Walker. Kloppenburg, even with the surge of voters, still lost to Prosser.
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    May 03, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    andreseward saidi was talking about the republican party as it is TODAY not how it was some 100+ years ago, and if you knew anything about history you would know that the republican and democratic parties from the past have completely reversed places.

    ALSO
    my biggest amount of disbelief with republicans is that they are actively going against their constituency. in wisconsin and other states that elected republican governors, those governors attacked public sector workers... and when the workers (a large amount republican) protested the legislation against them, the governors.. most notably scott walker in Wisconsin told them "i dont care what you want, I'M doing this anyway"

    during this congressional recess, many of the town hall meetings republican congress members have had demonstrated the frustration of their constituencies on the proposed republican bill especially over the proposed changes to medicare/medicaid and all that jazz. so OBVIOUSLY those republicans in power are experiencing extreme disconnect with their support base.

    even with non-important social issues like abortion and gay marriage republicans continue to make this an issue while the american public as a whole would prefer for them to focus on creating jobs and restoring the economy, something that democrats have at least attempted to do.

    at least democrats attempt to represent their constituency, as opposed to completely ignoring them in favor of personal interests in the gains of power and money.

    with all this said, democrats are certainly not perfect, many behave just like republicans. but they aren't as crazy.




    There's no "attacking" of public workers here in Wisconsin. People choose to work for government, government says we can't afford to give you as many benefits as we used to (in the same way that a private sector employer would). If someone doesn't like the benefits they can get a job elsewhere!

    Wisconsin has a slight silent majority that supports Walker, despite all of the hullabaloo.


    Mock - You're being ridiculous. There is no economic benefit - according to Walker himself - in terms of getting rid of collective bargaining. And there is no silent majority in WI. Walker's poll numbers are in the toilet and activists have collected enough signatures to start recalls on 4-5 Republican state senators versus zero for recall Democratic state senators.


    Actually, the supreme court justice election was seen by many as a response to Walker. Kloppenburg, even with the surge of voters, still lost to Prosser.


    Actually, there is going to be a recount, so that's unsettled. And, even is Kloppenburg lost, she made up a 20 point lead in two months. That's the response to Walker.