Was Jesus a bleeding-heart liberal?

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    May 01, 2011 6:08 PM GMT
    If Jesus had a political affiliation, would he be considered a bleeding heart liberal or TEA party activist?
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    May 01, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    Of course he was a liberal !! He healed the Roman Centurians Gay Boy (pais) Servant lover didn't he !!! LOL !!
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    May 02, 2011 5:26 AM GMT
    Although he did bleed, I think he would be neither a member of the Tea Party nor a "bleeding heart liberal", to take him at his word:

    John 18:36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight...

    ...but now is my kingdom not from hence.


    I believe Jesus had deep regard for doing what is right to others (what we would call "social justice" today), but ahead of that he had a greater priority of doing his Father's will.

    He distilled the whole of the Law (the Ten Commandments, the 613 Mitzvot laws specific to observant Jews, and the Noachide Law applicable to all gentiles) two two basic commandments:

    1) Love God above all else (Jesus exemplified this by enduring a particularly gruesome death by way of Roman style crucificixion, and being separated from the love of the Father for a period of time... becoming sin)

    2) Love your fellow humans as you love yourself: Jesus was the ultimate "good mensch" - the "religion" he supports is that of reaching out to those who are un-lovely: the tax collectors, the prostitutes, the drunkards, and work-a-day folks; the widows and the orphans.

    So in some respects, he may have some aspects that can be seen as being "liberal" or even a bit socialist, but "liberalism" and "socialism" along with "conservatism" and "free market libertarianism" are fallible, weak human attempts at best... to govern without reference to God or his kingdom.

    Not discounting either, for the fact that politics in the early first century were hardly driven by much of a vote, even a popular one. SPQR and all that. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 02, 2011 7:13 AM GMT
    I think he was a socialist.
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    May 03, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    He was a carpenter; a very distant relative of Karen.
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    May 03, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidAlthough he did bleed, I think he would be neither a member of the Tea Party nor a "bleeding heart liberal", to take him at his word:

    John 18:36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight...

    ...but now is my kingdom not from hence.


    I believe Jesus had deep regard for doing what is right to others (what we would call "social justice" today), but ahead of that he had a greater priority of doing his Father's will.

    He distilled the whole of the Law (the Ten Commandments, the 613 Mitzvot laws specific to observant Jews, and the Noachide Law applicable to all gentiles) two two basic commandments:

    1) Love God above all else (Jesus exemplified this by enduring a particularly gruesome death by way of Roman style crucificixion, and being separated from the love of the Father for a period of time... becoming sin)

    2) Love your fellow humans as you love yourself: Jesus was the ultimate "good mensch" - the "religion" he supports is that of reaching out to those who are un-lovely: the tax collectors, the prostitutes, the drunkards, and work-a-day folks; the widows and the orphans.

    So in some respects, he may have some aspects that can be seen as being "liberal" or even a bit socialist, but "liberalism" and "socialism" along with "conservatism" and "free market libertarianism" are fallible, weak human attempts at best... to govern without reference to God or his kingdom.

    Not discounting either, for the fact that politics in the early first century were hardly driven by much of a vote, even a popular one. SPQR and all that. icon_biggrin.gif


    Great commentary. But I wonder if Jesus would dismantle Medicare for the elderly so his Millionare friends could get another tax break. Something to think about......
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    May 04, 2011 4:05 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    Webster666 saidHe was a carpenter; a very distant relative of Karen.

    WIN


    Ditto!
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    May 04, 2011 4:07 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidIf Jesus had a political affiliation, would he be considered a bleeding heart liberal or TEA party activist?
    He would have left the country.
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    May 04, 2011 8:15 AM GMT
    Jesus can't vote here.
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    May 04, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidAlthough he did bleed, I think he would be neither a member of the Tea Party nor a "bleeding heart liberal", to take him at his word:

    John 18:36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight...

    ...but now is my kingdom not from hence.


    I believe Jesus had deep regard for doing what is right to others (what we would call "social justice" today), but ahead of that he had a greater priority of doing his Father's will.

    He distilled the whole of the Law (the Ten Commandments, the 613 Mitzvot laws specific to observant Jews, and the Noachide Law applicable to all gentiles) two two basic commandments:

    1) Love God above all else (Jesus exemplified this by enduring a particularly gruesome death by way of Roman style crucificixion, and being separated from the love of the Father for a period of time... becoming sin)

    2) Love your fellow humans as you love yourself: Jesus was the ultimate "good mensch" - the "religion" he supports is that of reaching out to those who are un-lovely: the tax collectors, the prostitutes, the drunkards, and work-a-day folks; the widows and the orphans.

    So in some respects, he may have some aspects that can be seen as being "liberal" or even a bit socialist, but "liberalism" and "socialism" along with "conservatism" and "free market libertarianism" are fallible, weak human attempts at best... to govern without reference to God or his kingdom.

    Not discounting either, for the fact that politics in the early first century were hardly driven by much of a vote, even a popular one. SPQR and all that. icon_biggrin.gif


    Great commentary. But I wonder if Jesus would dismantle Medicare for the elderly so his Millionare friends could get another tax break. Something to think about......


    I do not think Jesus would have concerned himself very much over earthly politics, however well or ill intended.

    Also, he seems to be more likely to have friends among everyday type people, and not so many very rich ones.

    In fact, he admonishes two rich men in particular - Nicodemus (who later funded Jesus's burial costs) to become "born again", that is to seek a new life modeled after him and through belief in him; and a second unnamed "rich young ruler" who after telling Jesus that he had kept all of the Law of Moses - went away aggrieved when Jesus told him to "Sell all thou hast and give it to the poor and come follow Me".

    Yet Jesus was also a realist, knowing men's hearts.

    He told the disciples who rebuked a certain woman who annointed his head prior to he Last Supper for "wasting expensive perfume oil":

    "For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always." (Matthew 26:11)

    And such has been the case ever since - the world shall never lack for poor people.