Why are Rep. Peter King (R) and many of his fellow Repubs LYING about waterboarding?

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    May 04, 2011 5:20 AM GMT
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/05/03/rep-king-waterboarded-ksm-gave-up-bin-ladens-courier/

    What Rep. King alleged is FALSE.
    Why would he make shit up that isn't true?
    We know that what King said is FALSE.

    The info that led to the courier, wasn't gained until after waterboarding was discontinued in 2007.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20059438-503544.html

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/surveillance-not-waterboarding-led-to-bin-laden/

    And yet this LIE that waterboarding is what gained the info that led to bin Laden, has been repeated by right-wingers all over the place!

    It just goes to show ya.
    THE REPUBS WILL SAY ANYTHING.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 04, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    Rumsfeld even stated this morning that he was misquoted and that interrogation techniques did help lead them to Bin Laden. For your information, they didn't waterboard the courier, but rather the terrorist who led them to the courier. Regardless, who cares, whatever they did it helped catch Public Enemy #1
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    May 04, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidRumsfeld even stated this morning that he was misquoted and that interrogation techniques did help lead them to Bin Laden. For your information, they didn't waterboard the courier, but rather the terrorist who led them to the courier. Regardless, who cares, whatever they did it helped catch Public Enemy #1



    It's been well documented that the information and whereabouts of this courier came to light 4 years after the use of waterboarding at Guantanamo and overseas - was discontinued!
    Waterboarding did not elicit the intel that led to the bin Laden killing
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    May 04, 2011 5:40 AM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidRumsfeld even stated this morning that he was misquoted and that interrogation techniques did help lead them to Bin Laden. For your information, they didn't waterboard the courier, but rather the terrorist who led them to the courier. Regardless, who cares, whatever they did it helped catch Public Enemy #1



    It's been well documented that the information and whereabouts of this courier came to light 4 years after the use of waterboarding at Guantanamo and overseas - was discontinued!
    Waterboarding did not elicit the intel that led to the bin Laden killing



    Where do you get your news from --- The National Enquirer? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 04, 2011 5:47 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    rickrick91 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidRumsfeld even stated this morning that he was misquoted and that interrogation techniques did help lead them to Bin Laden. For your information, they didn't waterboard the courier, but rather the terrorist who led them to the courier. Regardless, who cares, whatever they did it helped catch Public Enemy #1



    It's been well documented that the information and whereabouts of this courier came to light 4 years after the use of waterboarding at Guantanamo and overseas - was discontinued!
    Waterboarding did not elicit the intel that led to the bin Laden killing



    Where do you get your news from --- The National Enquirer? icon_rolleyes.gif




    I get my news from as many reliable sources as possible.
    Unlike you - who only listens to the pro-right-wing propaganda on Fox.
    LOL!

    Here's a good synopsis of what we know now.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/surveillance-not-waterboarding-led-to-bin-laden/
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    May 04, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    Here's a good synopsis of what we know now.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/surveillance-not-waterboarding-led-to-bin-laden/



    Written by blogger Spencer Ackerman? THAT is your source???

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    May 04, 2011 6:01 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    rickrick91 said
    Here's a good synopsis of what we know now.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/surveillance-not-waterboarding-led-to-bin-laden/



    Written by blogger Spencer Ackerman? THAT is your source???

    Goodnight, Rick icon_rolleyes.gif



    LOL!
    Typical ad hominem attack.
    Ackerman lays out a clear timeline and includes multiple sources in his report - but here is another source for you if you need more enlightenment.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20059438-503544.html
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    May 04, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    And instead of a blogger Ricky, even left leaning CNN and Gloria Borger have a slightly different take than right-wing hating Ricky. And remember Ricky, never let facts get in the way of your hate. See how much your hate clouds your objectivity Ricky? Shame on Ricky - shame on Ricky.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/02/borger.ksm.bin.laden/index.htmlE

    (CNN) -- In the aftermath of the killing of Osama bin Laden, a picture is emerging of a long, complex, dangerous and circuitous route to the compound that was the site of the special forces attack.

    It was years in the making, involving interviews with high-value detainees like Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who is known as KSM. In the end, though, it all came down to classic espionage work and a judgment call by President Barack Obama, who chose a surgical helicopter attack rather than a bomb. The evidence was good, but it was circumstantial; the CIA believed that the probability of finding bin Laden at the compound was just 60-80 percent. "There was no guarantee by any stretch," says a senior administration official.

    The story began many years ago when intelligence officers interviewing high-value detainees in U.S. custody, including KSM and Abu Faraj al Libbi, got some critical leads on couriers "who might be facilitating OBL, (Osama bin Laden)," one U.S. official familiar with the operation said. The detainees confirmed some names. But there was one courier's identity some of the detainees "held out" on; they would only give a nickname.

    In fact, when they pushed KSM on the name, he "lied to protect his protege," the official said. The guy, KSM said, "doesn't know anything." And that was the tip-off, said this source: "We knew he was lying, because we already knew he was a KSM protege." As a result, the intelligence operatives pushed harder to try and find out who he was.

    As it turns out, he would be the key to tracking down bin Laden.

    Without much help, all U.S. intelligence had was the courier's nickname (which they will not share), but no more. "From the nickname, we tried to find out his real name," a senior U.S. official said. After a long search -- and some cold trails -- they finally did, four years ago. But only after what one U.S. official called "classic espionage and intelligence work." In the end, the official said, "we learned his real name from a different part of the world," but he would not elaborate.

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    May 04, 2011 3:57 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidWhere do you get your news from --- The National Enquirer? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Hey... don't put down the Enquirer.... they got the John Edwards affair / love child story right when the rest of the liberal media just parroted the Edward's denial and left it at that. icon_wink.gif


    That is true.
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    May 04, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
    OneGeezer saidAnd instead of a blogger Ricky, even left leaning CNN and Gloria Borger have a slightly different take than right-wing hating Ricky. And remember Ricky, never let facts get in the way of your hate. See how much your hate clouds your objectivity Ricky? Shame on Ricky - shame on Ricky.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/02/borger.ksm.bin.laden/index.htmlE

    (CNN) -- In the aftermath of the killing of Osama bin Laden, a picture is emerging of a long, complex, dangerous and circuitous route to the compound that was the site of the special forces attack.

    It was years in the making, involving interviews with high-value detainees like Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who is known as KSM. In the end, though, it all came down to classic espionage work and a judgment call by President Barack Obama, who chose a surgical helicopter attack rather than a bomb. The evidence was good, but it was circumstantial; the CIA believed that the probability of finding bin Laden at the compound was just 60-80 percent. "There was no guarantee by any stretch," says a senior administration official.

    The story began many years ago when intelligence officers interviewing high-value detainees in U.S. custody, including KSM and Abu Faraj al Libbi, got some critical leads on couriers "who might be facilitating OBL, (Osama bin Laden)," one U.S. official familiar with the operation said. The detainees confirmed some names. But there was one courier's identity some of the detainees "held out" on; they would only give a nickname.

    In fact, when they pushed KSM on the name, he "lied to protect his protege," the official said. The guy, KSM said, "doesn't know anything." And that was the tip-off, said this source: "We knew he was lying, because we already knew he was a KSM protege." As a result, the intelligence operatives pushed harder to try and find out who he was.

    As it turns out, he would be the key to tracking down bin Laden.

    Without much help, all U.S. intelligence had was the courier's nickname (which they will not share), but no more. "From the nickname, we tried to find out his real name," a senior U.S. official said. After a long search -- and some cold trails -- they finally did, four years ago. But only after what one U.S. official called "classic espionage and intelligence work." In the end, the official said, "we learned his real name from a different part of the world," but he would not elaborate.





    As per the info YOU posted - the actionable intel that was used to track down and kill bin Laden - was learned "four years ago".
    Four years ago waterboarding was no longer being used.
    It had been discontinued by Bush.
    So, the right-wing claim that waterboarding got the intel that was used to kill bin Laden - is a LIE.

    And, I didn't just post a link to a "blogger".
    I also posted this:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20059438-503544.html

    Shame on the right-wing liars who are trying to fool people into believing that waterboarding is what got the info that was used to track down and kill bin Laden.
    Shame on the right.
  • Webster666

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    May 04, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
    Because it's what Republicans do: LIE.