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    May 07, 2011 2:52 AM GMT
    Why is it so hard to come out form the closet for a person who is raised by the very strong moral code family ?????????????
  • Hunter9

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    May 07, 2011 4:26 AM GMT
    arronarron saidWhy is it so hard to come out form the closet for a person who is raised by the very strong moral code family ?????????????


    because families that are jesus freaks (or whatever religious freaks they happen to be) are brain-washed to believe that you're a horribly misguided person living against 'god's' will.
  • LJay

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    May 07, 2011 4:39 AM GMT
    Do you mean Why is it so hard to separate from rule freaks?

    Or, to put it another way, do these folks have a moral code or a control habit?
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    May 07, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    arronarron saidWhy is it so hard to come out form the closet for a person who is raised by the very strong moral code family ?????????????


    because families that are jesus freaks (or whatever religious freaks they happen to be) are brain-washed to believe that you're a horribly misguided person living against 'god's' will.
    That's only part of it.
    The rest is how the closeted person was raised.
    I was raised to stand up for myself, and not let bullies take me down.
    That came in handy when my dad raised his fist to hit me when I came out (err, got caught).
    Even though he was my dad, I was still ready to punch his lights out if he so much as flinched toward me with that fist. icon_wink.gif
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    May 07, 2011 1:24 PM GMT
    Well if you're from a culture where you are essentially expected to live by a family's standards and not in any way try to step out of line, say for instance in many Asian, African, and Middle-Eastern families... you have pretty much no motivation at all to come out... everything to lose there and nothing to gain
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    May 07, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    Because you are confusing organized religion with true morality. Morality comes from within. Religion comes from shaming and inducing guilt. Not even closely related.
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    May 07, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Scruffypup said[/cite]Because you are confusing organized religion with true morality. Morality comes from within. Religion comes from shaming and inducing guilt. Not even closely related.[/quote


    THIS!!!
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    May 07, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
    arronarron saidWhy is it so hard to come out form the closet for a person who is raised by the very strong moral code family ?????????????


    Don't equate discrimination with morality. Being gay is not a moral issue. Just because certain people or cultures claim it is a moral issue doesn't make it so.
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    May 07, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    arronarron saidWhy is it so hard to come out form the closet for a person who is raised by the very strong moral code family ?????????????

    Are you talking about accepting yourself as gay (which is the most important coming out) or telling your family that you are gay? (which ranks below doing your taxes in importance icon_wink.gif )
    So, get comfortable being gay and the rest will fall into place when you are ready.