Boycotting Beijing Olympics

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    Apr 07, 2008 11:47 AM GMT
    What's your take on this one... would be a shame to miss the opportunity to pressure China to act it's age, not it's shoe size over Tibet while the spotlight is on them, but who's gonna piss of Coca Cola and McDonalds and 'pull out'??? Not to mention all the athletes that have been working up to this...
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    Apr 07, 2008 4:02 PM GMT
    I, for one, decided not to compete this year. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 07, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    Pulling out won't help anyone. It's either all on or all off. But think about the money spent on the Olympics being pooled and being used to fight poverty and hunger? I think humanity has very jumbled priorities.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 07, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    No, No, No, No, Nooooooooooooo....Boycotting the OLYMPICS was one of the lamest moves President Carter ever pulled...The Olympics should be treasured as a tradition surrounding "Sport" and should absolutely NOT be used as a political toy. If anything, the OLYMPICS help bring the world together...boycotting them just tears it apart. Not to mention how totally unfair it is to the world-class athletes who have trained their entire lives for their Olympic moment. No government should have the right to take that moment away from these athletes.
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    Apr 07, 2008 4:10 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said Not to mention how totally unfair it is to the world-class athletes who have trained their entire lives for their Olympic moment. No government should have the right to take that moment away from these athletes.


    Think about the people who have spent their entire lives in poverty and hunger? How unfair is it to them that these privileged, healthy people get to do what they love on a global stage when they're dying from curable diseases and so forth? Sorry to be the raving lunatic who babbles about the horrors of consumerism and the like but you can't ignore this one.
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    Apr 07, 2008 4:15 PM GMT
    4barbela said[quote][cite]CuriousJockAZ said[/cite] Not to mention how totally unfair it is to the world-class athletes who have trained their entire lives for their Olympic moment. No government should have the right to take that moment away from these athletes.


    Think about the people who have spent their entire lives in poverty and hunger? How unfair is it to them that these privileged, healthy people get to do what they love on a global stage when they're dying from curable diseases and so forth? Sorry to be the raving lunatic who babbles about the horrors of consumerism and the like but you can't ignore this one.[/quote]










    Barbela,

    The OLYMPICS are what they are. They date back to the ancient Greeks. The tradition surrounds sports - period. The fact that the games bring all of the best athletes of the world together in one arena in the spirit of sport and healthy competition is a good thing. It is not about the poor and/or the hungry. I'm not being unsympathetic to the impoverished of the world, not by any means, but boycotting the OLYMPICS is not going to change their plight one bit. The Olympics should not be politicized at all as it is a LOSE/LOSE to do so. Just my opinion...
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    Apr 07, 2008 4:24 PM GMT
    I didn't say to boycott, I said that the Olympics should have either maximum participation or none at all. And I wasn't accusing you of being uncaring, I was stating that the amount of money spent on the Olympics would be fairly phenomenal and, similar to many other things like the Iraq War, it's a massive waste of money and a rather sour view of how humanity cares for itself and it's own before others. Great, these athletes get their moment in the spotlight - but whether you like it or not, the games are politicised, no way to stop that unfortunately. The solution? Go ahead with the games as planned, no silly boycotts, no meaningless protesters. But to say it's good and healthy competition is a bit much. I love the Olympics, I always watch them, but it disappoints me when you find out about drug users, i.e Marion Jones. What she did was amazingly self-centred, but there's no real way to prevent drug use in some areas. That's where the games fall down. It looks like healthy competition but it isn't.
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    Apr 07, 2008 4:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThe Olympics should not be politicized at all as it is a LOSE/LOSE to do so.


    Well, it would be nice. But if you think the Olympics was ever not politicized, I don't know where you get your history. People seem to forget that the "modern" Olympics, with all the pomp and ceremony and pageantry was pretty much established by Hitler in 1936 for the Berlin games as a way to showcase their particular brand of fascism. Have you seen Leni Riefenstahl's Olympia? Check it.

    Germany and Japan were excluded in 1948 because of their positions in WWII, Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Hungary and Turkey were barred in 1920 because of WWI, South Africa for a long time because of apartheid, and of course Munich.

    Do some net searching on the original games in Greece as well, and you'll see similar politicization.

    China has been competing for the games for quite some time, failing for years because of human rights issues.

    So it's hard for me to understand pleas to "keep the games pure from politics."

    I think it's quite valid to protest injustice whenever it occurs, so long as it's done in a civil fashion. China is BLATANTLY using these Olympics politically. Read up on the stuff that's happening in Beijing as a result of this huge propaganda push. It's Berlin all over again.

    I, for one, like McGay, have refused to compete.

    But being lucky enough to be a resident of the only US city where the torch is passing thru, I'm also going to be out there, being very civil, with my Tibet flag.

    K "proud to occasionally masquerade as a crazy SF liberal"
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    Apr 07, 2008 5:00 PM GMT
    Torch Relay Cancelled in Paris
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    Apr 07, 2008 5:03 PM GMT
    The French always drop out of things. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 07, 2008 6:36 PM GMT
    I agree with CuriousJockAZ, boycotting the olympics in Russia was an impotent gesture. I am concerned about what will happen with Tibet after the olympics are over. China has had to behave itself because of the olympics. When they're done, look out.

  • joeindallas

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    Apr 07, 2008 9:44 PM GMT
    Olympics should be in a Nuetral site and have all facilities built and maintained as teh Orginal Olympics were in Greece. Siting of Olympics have become far too political. Also a constant site whould ensure stability for records. The marathon would be at the same Altitide year in year out. IOC could also require athletes to live within 100 ft of altitude of course no more training in Colorado to run at Sea level
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    Apr 07, 2008 9:47 PM GMT
    AZ what about those people compete Olympic Games after Olympic Games they are paid professionals and should be limited to ONE GAme in a Sport.
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    Apr 07, 2008 10:55 PM GMT
    I agree. I always thought the Greeks should have the games permanently. They pulled it off in 2004, bless their nutty Greek hearts, so they've proven they can be just as good hosts as anyone can.

    The games are usually a money loser as well. So it's not like there's hundreds of millions of dollars in profits at stake. It's simply the international equivalent of primary school playground taunting: "Teacher says I get to host the games this year. You lost again! I'm better than you. Nya nya nya nya nya!"

    The consistent records thing is a nice bonus.

    Of course, the odds of this happening are kinda infinitesimal.

    K

  • MikemikeMike

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    Apr 08, 2008 4:38 AM GMT
    It was probably better when they all competed naked!!
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    Apr 08, 2008 4:44 AM GMT
    I think China needs the spotlight on them. Their governments time is over, they just haven't realized it yet...
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    Apr 08, 2008 6:40 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidIt was probably better when they all competed naked!!


    Now there's a tradition I think we can all get behind.

    (* lost in thoughts of wrestling... *)

    K