Define " working till failure"?


  • May 10, 2011 4:02 AM GMT
    So I have started back at the gym, I and was working out. To me it used to be just getting that muscle burn and such the muscle could go no farther...

    Tonight though I hardly got any burn, I just did a few sets, and the weakness. It was pathetic I could only do like 5-6 reps in some sets, and my muscles just felt weak like they could not lift it anymore...
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    May 10, 2011 4:24 AM GMT
    southernkid105 saidDefine " working till failure"?
    In my line of work? Flying till you run out of gas. icon_lol.gif
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    May 10, 2011 4:45 AM GMT
    southernkid105 saidSo I have started back at the gym, I and was working out. To me it used to be just getting that muscle burn and such the muscle could go no farther...

    Tonight though I hardly got any burn, I just did a few sets, and the weakness. It was pathetic I could only do like 5-6 reps in some sets, and my muscles just felt weak like they could not lift it anymore...


    Sometimes that happens ta all of us, i hate when it happens ta me, it seems more often when i get overtraining goin on, a day off usually helps, also gotta look at ur diet, if i dont eat/eat too much b4 tha gym im usually weaker, and some days im just off for no reason at all, jus dont get too stressed bout it, if im doin somethin an its not workin ill jus do somethin else like abs or cardio, m still movin but not messin up my schedule that way
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    May 10, 2011 4:59 AM GMT
    So many variables. Diet, the muscle group your working, time it takes to recover from your last session. Muscle fatigue can occur at different rates at different times. Failure to me is lifting until I can't anymore at whatever rep range and intensity I have set for that excercise. Just because you don't get that burn doesn't mean you haven't worked the muscle and or won't get DOMS. A good pre workout supplement can give you that pump and burn if that's what your after.
    Hey atleast in your back in the gym, good to hear
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    May 10, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    PUMP 'TILL YOU FUCKIN COLLAPSE ON THE FLOOR.
  • FredMG

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    May 10, 2011 6:54 AM GMT
    Lifting until you can't repeat the motion.

    Then I work another muscle group, I like circuits like shoulders-biceps-triceps. By the time you're dine with the first circuit, you're ready to hit the first muscle group again.
  • barriehomeboy

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    May 10, 2011 6:54 AM GMT
    Don't worry about the burn. As long as you're working your muscle until it can't move the weight, you're achieving the objective. Your muscles will still grow while you're sleeping later that night.
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    May 10, 2011 6:58 AM GMT
    To answer the question, until failure means if you're training chest you don't stop until you can't do a push-up, back until you can't do a pull-up. Secondly, if you just got back in to the gym, you're gonna be weak, its just the way it is
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    May 10, 2011 7:03 AM GMT
    A trainer told me to always to do 3 sets with 15 repetitions, Working to failure is, on your last set when you get to the last reps 13 14 15 it's MAJOR work to 15. If you can do 3 sets of 15 and do more, you need to add weights. Good Luck
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    May 10, 2011 2:26 PM GMT
    scottjock6 saidA trainer told me to always to do 3 sets with 15 repetitions, Working to failure is, on your last set when you get to the last reps 13 14 15 it's MAJOR work to 15. If you can do 3 sets of 15 and do more, you need to add weights. Good Luck


    well, depends on your objective.
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    May 10, 2011 2:31 PM GMT
    Working to failure means you can't do another rep with proper form without first taking a rest. Unless you are lifting in the higher range of reps - say 12 or more - you may reach the point of failure without experiencing the burn. So while guys lifting heavier and using lower reps can hit a point where they can't do any more reps, they might not get that burn that comes with high rep training.
  • Rowing_Ant

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    May 10, 2011 7:13 PM GMT
    It means when you cant do another rep, even aided. In other words. youve totally exhausted your muscles.
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    May 10, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    ATX611 saidTo answer the question, until failure means if you're training chest you don't stop until you can't do a push-up, back until you can't do a pull-up. Secondly, if you just got back in to the gym, you're gonna be weak, its just the way it is


    This.

    The same thing happens to me when I go to the gym for the first time in a while. I'm just getting back into it myself after a long break.

    Maybe you were using too much weight? I use to try going for 3 sets of 10 reps. If I couldn't do that then I'd lower the weight. If it felt too light then I'd raise it.

    I'm actually about to attempt hypertrophy specific training so I'm kind of moving away from that though.

  • May 10, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    Don't laugh but normally I can do around 35 each side for bench press, after like two sets my incline bench and decline bench sets weight weren't even 5 pounds at the end... I think it is the muscles themselves are weak and need to be retrained, it's been a year since I have hit the gym hard like i used too... But I was embarrassed
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    May 10, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    No need to be embarrassed! When I go to the gym I don't even watch what other people are doing. I think that's the mentality of most people as well.

    But yeah what happened to you sounds typical for someone starting out again. Your muscles just get tired extremely fast. They're starting out with very little endurance. Just eat right and give them the proper rest and it'll get better. Do you have a workout buddy to help you on barbell exercises?

  • May 10, 2011 8:31 PM GMT
    I keep trying to get my brother to go back with me but he backed out last night, he said he will go with me tomorrow... I need a workout partner, I miss my old one, he was amazing... Then he transferred to another university
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    May 10, 2011 8:40 PM GMT
    Sounds like my current one, haha. He likes to go early in the morning and I'm not much of a morning person at all. Plus he backs out a lot. What time do you usually go?

  • May 10, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    For me, I am really flexible. I can workout in the morning or evening, I just tend to go evening when I can because about 9 PM, the gym is DEAD...
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    May 10, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    I was thinking maybe we could workout together sometime but i realized we live far apart D: that sucks.
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    May 10, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    CHIdude saidPUMP 'TILL YOU FUCKIN COLLAPSE ON THE FLOOR.


    This.

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    May 10, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    southernkid105 saidDefine " working till failure"?
    In my line of work? Flying till you run out of gas. icon_lol.gif


    *shudder* Came too close once. One does not forget that feeling for a LONG time...
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    May 11, 2011 7:52 AM GMT
    EliStark said
    paulflexes said
    southernkid105 saidDefine " working till failure"?
    In my line of work? Flying till you run out of gas. icon_lol.gif


    *shudder* Came too close once. One does not forget that feeling for a LONG time...
    Pfft...I've had a few engine failures. Nothing to be afraid of as long as you're within gliding distance of the airport (or at least the flat grassy part of it). icon_lol.gif

    PS. No fuel exhaustion, though...just used to have a shitty maintenance crew a few years ago.