Again with the high f*%*ng gas prices ... arrrrggg‏

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    May 11, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    For all it's worth, I just created a petition entitled "Tell U.S. Attorney General: enough "monitoring" high gas prices ... launch Grand Jury investigation!", because I'm just fed up with the prices (who isn't right?!) icon_evil.gif

    To read more about what I'm trying to do and to sign my petition, click here:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-us-attorney-general-enough-monitoring-high-gas-prices-launch-grand-jury-investigation

    It'll just take a minute!

    Here's more of what's going on with the gas prices and "why" they're so high:

    http://www.economicrefugee.net/whos-to-blame-for-high-gas-prices
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    May 11, 2011 10:26 PM GMT
    come to the UK and take a look at our prices, then complain, u lot have had it cheap for too long.
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    May 11, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    Stupid gas price. How come everything keeps going up except my paycheck?!
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    May 13, 2011 4:05 AM GMT
    waimea saidStupid gas price. How come everything keeps going up except my paycheck?!


    Yeah same here ... to top it off, at my work pay raises were frozen and since gas prices have caused food prices to go up, my budget is in bad shape :-(
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    May 13, 2011 4:08 AM GMT
    GAS IS THE WORST THING EVER LEFT BY THE DINOSAURS! I BLAME THEM!
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    May 13, 2011 4:20 AM GMT
    divvy198509 saidcome to the UK and take a look at our prices, then complain, u lot have had it cheap for too long.


    You guys pay a lot of taxes in order to research alternative fuel sources. Ours goes to the pockets of oil companies. I wouldn't complain as much if I was helping fuel research too.
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    May 13, 2011 4:20 AM GMT
    divvy198509 saidcome to the UK and take a look at our prices, then complain, u lot have had it cheap for too long.


    You guys pay a lot of taxes in order to research alternative fuel sources. Ours goes to the pockets of oil companies. I wouldn't complain as much if I was helping fuel research too.
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    May 13, 2011 4:33 AM GMT
    And still, no matter how high they get, I will never ever ever consider a hybrid.
  • NerdLifter

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    May 13, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
    Builtsoon saidAnd still, no matter how high they get, I will never ever ever consider a hybrid.


    And I will never ever consider anything that uses an ICE.
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    May 13, 2011 5:21 AM GMT
    I'm fortunate that I can rely on average-ish quality public transport where I live, but even the cost of that is becoming exorbitant icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 13, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    It sucks- I know. But between the potential tensions/uprisings and I think the Chinese getting a chunk of our fuel, it's going to be a very expensive few years.

    Anybody else like the idea of alternative fuels, or reducing their wheels?
  • rdberg1957

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    May 13, 2011 6:17 AM GMT
    The world is not producing any more oil than it produced 5 years ago. For the first time in many years, annual oil production has been flat in spite of rising prices. The production of conventional oil (on land oil wells, shallow water oil wells) is going down. An increasing portion of the world's production is no longer cheaply produced oil, but very expensive tar sands, deep water oil). There is a great deal of oil left. We are not running out of oil. We are running out of cheaply produced oil. What remains is dirtier, more difficult to refine, very expensive to produce oil. The oil price spikes are not primarily speculation or gouging. It is a reflection of underlying reality. Oil prices have been going up in fits and starts since the late 1990's. It is time to wake up. Our civilization has been built on oil, cheap, plentiful oil. We are producing more than at any time in history. The demand is greater than at any time in history, greater than our level of production. The primary reason for long-term rise in prices is supply and demand. The most probable cause of short-term spikes is upward pressure on prices due to declining stocks of cheap oil and reliance on more expensive oil. Speculation probably plays a significant, but secondary role. This upward pressure continues until demand for oil drops due to recession; when many can no longer afford oil, the price drops. We need to conserve, we need to electrify rail and build out passenger and freight rail. The International Energy Agency has declared that short-medium term that oil supplies will be tight and demand will not be met at current prices.

    In addition, the number of oil exporting nations is shrinking as the economies of those nations grows. The US used to export oil, it is the 3rd largest producer of oil behind Russia and Saudi Arabia. Britain used to export oil, Indonesia.

    The Chinese are not fools. They are no longer able to produce enough oil domestically to supply themselves so they are buying up as many contracts in Iran, Africa and the Mideast as they can. As the Chinese economy grows, they need oil to fuel it. The US uses more oil than any other economy with 300 million people. China with 1.2 billion people, is building high speed rail, nuclear and coal power plants as well as renewables. They are also buying more automobiles to use more oil. Many Chinese people want to live the way we do. We don't have enough oil, metal, rare elements and fresh water to supply the world with hundreds of millions of additional automobiles. Our world has limited capacity for industrial production and its
    by products--pollution, immense waste and vast income disparities.
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    May 13, 2011 6:25 AM GMT
    Reg825 saidFor all it's worth, I just created a petition entitled "Tell U.S. Attorney General: enough "monitoring" high gas prices ... launch Grand Jury investigation!", because I'm just fed up with the prices (who isn't right?!) icon_evil.gif

    To read more about what I'm trying to do and to sign my petition, click here:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-us-attorney-general-enough-monitoring-high-gas-prices-launch-grand-jury-investigation

    It'll just take a minute!

    Here's more of what's going on with the gas prices and "why" they're so high:

    http://www.economicrefugee.net/whos-to-blame-for-high-gas-prices



    I'm sorry, but that is an absolutely retarded idea.

    Why would the attorney general monitor the price of *any* commodity?

    Especially in the country with the cheapest gas of all developed nations icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 13, 2011 6:30 AM GMT
    It's like 4 bucks a gallon now! My raise doesn't even cover that!
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    May 13, 2011 6:30 AM GMT
    They did a check, and with inflation factored in, gas is cheaper now than in the 1970's. Gas is $1.36 per litre where i live, so that is $5.19 a US Gallon. Still not as expensive as it got a few years ago, though I'm sure it will be soon.

  • May 13, 2011 6:31 AM GMT
    OMG, I have a 25 gallon tank in my RAM 1500, it cost me $102 today to fill it up!!!! I only work part time I want to cry...
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    May 13, 2011 6:33 AM GMT
    That's insane! No one should have to pay that, even for a truck!
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    May 13, 2011 7:27 AM GMT
    divvy198509 saidcome to the UK and take a look at our prices, then complain, u lot have had it cheap for too long.


    Yeah, but in the U.K. you guys drive less. So even if gas is $10 a gallon there, you guys don't have to drive all THAT far. The U.S. is a very big country.

    Just today I drove over 500 miles. That only cover 2 states, and just over half-way of each. In addition, the cities here and their damn urban sprawl just burns tons of oil. $50 to fill up and then another $20 to keep going. It hurts. But it feels so good icon_mad.gif

    The answer is this: I will never buy 'new' oil again! I just used this oil and it works great.

    valvoline-nextgen-recycled-oil.jpg
  • Webster666

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    May 13, 2011 7:32 AM GMT
    I've come to the conclusion that both the Democrats and the Republicans are in cahoots with Big Oil. You'll notice that, no matter who's in charge of our government, NOTHING gets done about high gas prices.

    And, now that the Republican U.S. Supreme Court has given all companies permission to buy elections, no politician will dare to challenge Big Oil's dominance.
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    May 13, 2011 11:53 AM GMT
    I've been riding the bus a couple days a week and am spending less than a year ago on gas. I know, not an option for everyone.
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    May 13, 2011 12:52 PM GMT
    Along the Gulf coast, the moratorium has been lifted but since November, only a handful of permits have been issued for deep water drilling. We're drilling inland but not deep water due to the oil spill last summer. Good to see three bills were passed this week for drilling. But, let's put guys to work drilling. Drilling means jobs. Jobs mean cash flow through our economy.
  • bad_wolf

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    May 13, 2011 12:54 PM GMT
    We're better off go back to the days of the horse and cart, be cheaper in the end.
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    May 13, 2011 12:55 PM GMT
    I feel for you commuters...I'm lucky I live and work in Midtown Atlanta it takes me 7 minutes to work to work, 10 minutes to the gym and 10 minutes to my favorite watering hole. I feel for you guys! A friend of mine told me it is costing him $120 a month to fill up his tank. OUTRAGEOUS!
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    May 13, 2011 1:05 PM GMT
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    divvy198509 saidcome to the UK and take a look at our prices, then complain, u lot have had it cheap for too long.


    You guys pay a lot of taxes in order to research alternative fuel sources. Ours goes to the pockets of oil companies. I wouldn't complain as much if I was helping fuel research too.


    Agreed. We pay about the same amount for the actual gas. We just have the lowest taxes on our gas in the States, thus the lowest overall cost per gallon.

    No need to complain now though; they're only going to keep going up. This is sorta what happens when we make ourselves dependent on one fuel source for transportation. For those that drive, perhaps it's time to start taking the bus to work if you can? Hell, I moved closer to my job so I can walk.
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    May 13, 2011 1:09 PM GMT
    LoneRanger09 saidThey did a check, and with inflation factored in, gas is cheaper now than in the 1970's. Gas is $1.36 per litre where i live, so that is $5.19 a US Gallon. Still not as expensive as it got a few years ago, though I'm sure it will be soon.


    Who did a check? Source?