Unleash the Flood...How you can help...

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    May 14, 2011 11:54 PM GMT
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    HELP??? ... icon_eek.gif ... Arent these small government states? ... dont they believe in helping themselves? .... No gov't assistance. ... let 'em drown ... icon_twisted.gif
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    May 14, 2011 11:56 PM GMT
    Maybe if we start DRINKING MORE FUCKING WATER we can diminished the effects of too much water.

    Eh?

    Or maybe just do what the U.S. did after that huge flood disaster in 1927 that left what 10% of America underwater? Build better systems to prevent future flooding.
  • mynyun

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    May 15, 2011 12:04 AM GMT
    La. floodgate opens, diverting Mississippi River



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110514/ap_on_re_us/us_mississippi_river_flooding
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    May 15, 2011 12:08 AM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidMaybe if we start DRINKING MORE FUCKING WATER we can diminished the effects of too much water.

    Eh?

    Or maybe just do what the U.S. did after that huge flood disaster in 1927 that left what 10% of America underwater? Build better systems to prevent future flooding.

    Not with my tax dollars! There are no free hand-outs on this side of town ... icon_wink.gif

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    May 15, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    By not voting for Ron Paul:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/13/ron-paul-abolish-fema/ BLITZER: On the whole issue of FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, do you want to see that agency ended?

    PAUL: Well, if you want to live in a free society, if you want to pay attention to the constitution, why not? I think it’s bad economics. I think it’s bad morality. And it’s bad constitutional law. Why should people like myself, who had, not too long ago, a house on the Gulf Coast and it’s – it’s expensive there and it’s risky and it’s dangerous. Why should somebody from the central part of the United States rebuild my house? Why shouldn’t I have to buy my own insurance and protect about the potential dangers? I mean it’s – it’s a moral hazard to say that government is always going to take care of us when we do dumb things. I’m trying to get people to not to dumb things. Besides, it’s not authorized in the constitution.

    BLITZER: And if there’s a disaster, like flooding or – or an earthquake or Hurricane Katrina, what’s wrong with asking fellow Americans to help their – their – their fellow citizens?

    PAUL: Nothing. And I think Americans are very, very generous and they have traditionally. The big problem is Americans are getting poor and they’re not able to voluntarily come to the rescue.But to coerce people, to ask them to help, that is fine and dandy. But when you bankrupt our country and nobody has a job and then they say, well, FEMA needs to bail out everybody, then all we’re doing is compounding our problems.
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    May 15, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    I'm not sure where your anger was directed. what was the point of your post?
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    May 15, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidI'm not sure where your anger was directed. what was the point of your post?

    Butt out. It's not your country. It's not your concern. Dont you have a baby seal to slaughter?
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    May 15, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
    I think the OP is trying to make a point that a unitary, colossal., all-in-wonder government is the cure-all for all our woes as Americans.

    Though I am inclined to agree that people in one part of the country should not be obligated to bail out people in another part: that this generally gnaws at and depletes the large well of generosity Americans have had in times of natural and national disasters.

    Paying for a massive and largely unaccountable entity like FEMA might be eatin up money and resources that could be more adequately managed by the states or perhaps a regional coalition of states that share a tendency toward particular disasters occurring.
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    May 15, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
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    HELP??? ... icon_eek.gif ... Arent these small government states? ... dont they believe in helping themselves? .... No gov't assistance. ... let 'em drown ... icon_twisted.gif



    Ummmm........I live less than a half mile from the levee. If the levee breaks we are expected to get 25-30 feet of water, so your "let 'em drown" post seems a little insensitive from where I'm sitting, even if it's meant as sarcasm. I think you might be forgetting that New Orleans is a VERY liberal city, so grouping us with all the "small government" folks isn't really fair anyway.
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    May 15, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidI think the OP is trying to make a point that a unitary, colossal., all-in-wonder government is the cure-all for all our woes as Americans.

    Though I am inclined to agree that people in one part of the country should not be obligated to bail out people in another part: that this generally gnaws at and depletes the large well of generosity Americans have had in times of natural and national disasters.

    Paying for a massive and largely unaccountable entity like FEMA might be eatin up money and resources that could be more adequately managed by the states or perhaps a regional coalition of states that share a tendency toward particular disasters occurring.


    No, he's trying to make a point about the hypocrisy of states that have traditionally supported less government when it suits them rhetorically.

    It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing Leviathan either.

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  • Webster666

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    May 15, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
    All of you red staters along the Mississippi elected LESS GOVERNMENT, SMALLER GOVERNMENT, CUT SPENDING, REPUBLICAN representatives to the United States Congress.

    So, don't look to FEMA to bail you out as your home floats down the river.
    You're on your own, just the way you wanted it.
  • wellwell

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    May 15, 2011 4:56 AM GMT
    It seems that local Civil Defense Leagues, and local Charities; Fraternal Organizations; Churches; Synagogues; and Veterans' Organizations, etc. have a far better track record than FEMA..

    What could be the sense in berating these, named, 1st responders? Recall when FEMA, the politicians, & the news-casting propagandist all stood around congratulating each-other (on their fine achievements), while dead bodies floated down the streets? I do . . .

    States, traditionally, have been @ the ready; w/ Governors calling out the National Guard, etc.. It seems, that our National Guard is previously disposed, of late . . .
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    May 15, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidAll of you red staters along the Mississippi elected LESS GOVERNMENT, SMALLER GOVERNMENT, CUT SPENDING, REPUBLICAN representatives to the United States Congress.

    So, don't look to FEMA to bail you out as your home floats down the river.
    You're on your own, just the way you wanted it.



    I realize no one reads previous posts, but as I stated above....there are many "blue voters" in these red states. And many blue cities as well.
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    May 15, 2011 5:59 AM GMT



    HELP??? ... icon_eek.gif ... Arent these small government states? ... dont they believe in helping themselves? .... No gov't assistance. ... let 'em drown ... icon_twisted.gif[/quote]

    omg. caslon and I never agree on anything......but we agree on this.....the laws of the universe dictate that it must therefor be correct.
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    May 15, 2011 6:54 AM GMT
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    barriehomeboy saidI'm not sure where your anger was directed. what was the point of your post?

    Butt out. It's not your country. It's not your concern. Dont you have a baby seal to slaughter?

    Oh, come now. We are too busy breaching our own flood controls to slaughter baby seals this spring. It could just be that other posters were confused as to which flood you were referring to?
    "The intentional release of water through the Assiniboine River dikes at the Hoop and Holler Bend in Manitoba is fully underway..."(Feel free to make fun of the fact that we have named a bend on the Assiniboine "hoop and holler bend.")
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    May 15, 2011 11:30 AM GMT
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    barriehomeboy saidI'm not sure where your anger was directed. what was the point of your post?

    Butt out. It's not your country. It's not your concern. Dont you have a baby seal to slaughter?

    Oh, come now. We are too busy breaching our own flood controls to slaughter baby seals this spring. It could just be that other posters were confused as to which flood you were referring to?
    "The intentional release of water through the Assiniboine River dikes at the Hoop and Holler Bend in Manitoba is fully underway..."(Feel free to make fun of the fact that we have named a bend on the Assiniboine "hoop and holler bend.")
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    Have they breached the dike on the Assiniboine yet?

    (no footage yet on CTV or CBC)


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    May 15, 2011 12:13 PM GMT
    Yeah, that picture is actually the snapshot of "hoop and holler bend"- where they breached it. I think I took it from the Penticton newspaper site. From what I recall of the news coverage they said they had just started releasing water and planned on ramping it up as they went.
    Here is the initial break through to the river. (Carlson must be thrilled to have his thread hijacked by Canadian terroristsicon_lol.gif )
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    May 15, 2011 2:04 PM GMT

    Manitobans were waking up to another day of worry Sunday as water from a deliberate breach of an Assiniboine River dike slowly spread across their farmland.

    Officials kept the flow of the breach Saturday to a rate of 500 cubic feet per second — enough to fill an Olympic-sized swimming pool every three minutes. But they warned the rate could be increased Sunday to ease pressure on dikes downriver.

    Excavators created a 20-metre wide breach through a roadway that had doubled as a dike. (Valérie-Micaela Bain/CBC)

    The controlled release will send water over a 180-square-kilometre rural area that contains about 150 homes.

    Floodwaters have swamped low-lying farmland, cut off roads and forced more than 1,300 people to leave low-lying areas in Brandon, where temporary dikes are the only thing keeping homes in the city's valley dry. Winnipeg, to the east, is not affected.

    Trying to avert worse problems

    A cut was made early Saturday at the Hoop and Holler Bend, east of Portage la Prairie, to divert the bulging river and reduce the risk of a potentially catastrophic breach downriver.

    At the same time, the province announced the amount of land to be inundated, once the full extent of the diversion is reached, will be less than initially projected, some 180 square kilometres instead of 225 square kilometres.

    Manitoba Premier Greg Selinger, who toured the area by helicopter on Saturday, said residents affected by the deliberate flooding will be well-compensated. He also promised fast repairs to damaged roads.

    A special compensation plan is still being crafted but should be up and running soon, Selinger told reporters about seven hours after the dike was cut.

    Selinger said officials were directing the water to minimize damage to the farms and communities sitting in its path. If necessary, they’ll make cuts in roads, since they can be rebuilt quickly.


    CBC's Alex Freedman said authorities don't know exactly how many houses are in the path of floodwaters. The initial estimate was that 150 homes faced flooding, but it appears the number will be fewer.

    Residents have expressed frustration with a lack of information during the build-up to the floodwater diversion.

    “Mass confusion,” said Joel Aberdeen, who lives about a kilometre from the Hoop and Holler Bend. He was advised his land likely won’t be flooded, but it’s being protected by tube dikes just in case.

    “You don’t know what to expect, so how do you prepare for it?”

    Emergency Measures officials were going door to door during the night to get information to residents, but Selinger said he understood the anger.

    “Citizens have every right to be concerned about not getting information as soon as possible.”

    The river is not expected to crest until sometime between May 18 and 20 and its flow was already at half the rate of Niagara Falls earlier this week, according to provincial officials.