I'm sick of reading all these terrorist threads against Israel

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    May 15, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
    Who here is anti-Israel? Please post in this thread so I can put you on ignore.

    I can't take anymore of this "let's destroy Israel" crap. There's a difference between arguing for the existence of Palestine and twisting the truth showing videos of Palestinians throw rocks at Israel and then blame Israel AGAIN for retaliating and defending itself.

    Since RJ is too pussy to put a ban on excessive borderline terrorist anti-Israel posts and threads, I'll just gather all you little terrorists here in this thread and put you all on ignore. Seriously, if you're perpetually anti-Israel voice yourself so I can remove you.
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    May 15, 2011 10:02 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidWho here is anti-Israel? Please post in this thread so I can put you on ignore.

    I can't take anymore of this "let's destroy Israel" crap. There's a difference between arguing for the existence of Palestine and twisting the truth showing videos of Palestinians throw rocks at Israel and then blame Israel AGAIN for retaliating and defending itself.

    Since RJ is too pussy to put a ban on excessive borderline terrorist anti-Israel posts and threads, I'll just gather all you little terrorists here in this thread and put you all on ignore. Seriously, if you're perpetually anti-Israel voice yourself so I can remove you.


    I share your frustration. But it might be nice to be able to engage in some meaningful discussion with those whose views we don't share (said as a fellow "pro-Israel" guy). It would be nice to be able to separate those who only seek to demonize Israel and who hate Jews from those whose views we just don't see eye-to-eye on. Palestinians do have legitimate complaints against Israel.

    That being said, I'm not too hopeful from what I've seen on RJ so far.
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    May 15, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
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    I share your frustration. But it might be nice to be able to engage in some meaningful discussion with those whose views we don't share (said as a fellow "pro-Israel" guy). It would be nice to be able to separate those who only seek to demonize Israel and who hate Jews from those whose views we just don't see eye-to-eye on. Palestinians do have legitimate complaints against Israel.

    That being said, I'm not too hopeful from what I've seen on RJ so far.


    No, it's the same 3-5 people spewing the same blind fanatical "destroy Israel" shit. And although I'm pro-Israel I'm totally for either recognizing Palestine or just kicking them all out, but not keeping them in the current state as a territory. But people who are anti-Israel on here for the most part just spew hate towards Israel, support violence against Israel, and blame Israel as the violent side. I've shut down COMPLETELY to counter arguments on RJ because of these people. I even have a Palestinian friend in REALITY and I hear his views. It's nothing like this borderline terrorist propaganda shit I see on RJ.
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    May 15, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON said
    Jaym86 said
    I share your frustration. But it might be nice to be able to engage in some meaningful discussion with those whose views we don't share (said as a fellow "pro-Israel" guy). It would be nice to be able to separate those who only seek to demonize Israel and who hate Jews from those whose views we just don't see eye-to-eye on. Palestinians do have legitimate complaints against Israel.

    That being said, I'm not too hopeful from what I've seen on RJ so far.


    No, it's the same 3-5 people spewing the same blind fanatical "destroy Israel" shit. And although I'm pro-Israel I'm totally for either recognizing Palestine or just kicking them all out, but not keeping them in the current state as a territory. But people who are anti-Israel on here for the most part just spew hate towards Israel, support violence against Israel, and blame Israel as the violent side. I've shut down COMPLETELY to counter arguments on RJ because of these people. I even have a Palestinian friend in REALITY and I hear his views. It's nothing like this borderline terrorist propaganda shit I see on RJ.


    Wait, what do you mean by the above (bold)?
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    May 15, 2011 10:16 PM GMT
    Jaym86 said
    JAKEBENSON said
    Jaym86 said
    I share your frustration. But it might be nice to be able to engage in some meaningful discussion with those whose views we don't share (said as a fellow "pro-Israel" guy). It would be nice to be able to separate those who only seek to demonize Israel and who hate Jews from those whose views we just don't see eye-to-eye on. Palestinians do have legitimate complaints against Israel.

    That being said, I'm not too hopeful from what I've seen on RJ so far.


    No, it's the same 3-5 people spewing the same blind fanatical "destroy Israel" shit. And although I'm pro-Israel I'm totally for either recognizing Palestine or just kicking them all out, but not keeping them in the current state as a territory. But people who are anti-Israel on here for the most part just spew hate towards Israel, support violence against Israel, and blame Israel as the violent side. I've shut down COMPLETELY to counter arguments on RJ because of these people. I even have a Palestinian friend in REALITY and I hear his views. It's nothing like this borderline terrorist propaganda shit I see on RJ.


    Wait, what do you mean by the above (bold)?


    Israel has Palestinians living in Gaza and Ramallah under Israel's rule. They either need to become a separate country (Palestine), or Israel needs to just kick out the Palestinians altogether (NOT kill them). When Israel took that land after winning war (like all countries do) they made the mistake of letting the Palestinians live there. It's like Israel was too nice, but not nice enough to decide to divide into two. The only logical solution is two nations. But if millions of Muslims keep advocating outright death to Israel, and violently attacking and protesting against Israel, then Israel just needs to throw out the anti-Israelis from within and become one culturally Jewish state which includes Gaza and Ramallah.
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    May 15, 2011 11:52 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON said
    Jaym86 said
    JAKEBENSON said
    Jaym86 said
    I share your frustration. But it might be nice to be able to engage in some meaningful discussion with those whose views we don't share (said as a fellow "pro-Israel" guy). It would be nice to be able to separate those who only seek to demonize Israel and who hate Jews from those whose views we just don't see eye-to-eye on. Palestinians do have legitimate complaints against Israel.

    That being said, I'm not too hopeful from what I've seen on RJ so far.


    No, it's the same 3-5 people spewing the same blind fanatical "destroy Israel" shit. And although I'm pro-Israel I'm totally for either recognizing Palestine or just kicking them all out, but not keeping them in the current state as a territory. But people who are anti-Israel on here for the most part just spew hate towards Israel, support violence against Israel, and blame Israel as the violent side. I've shut down COMPLETELY to counter arguments on RJ because of these people. I even have a Palestinian friend in REALITY and I hear his views. It's nothing like this borderline terrorist propaganda shit I see on RJ.


    Wait, what do you mean by the above (bold)?


    Israel has Palestinians living in Gaza and Ramallah under Israel's rule. They either need to become a separate country (Palestine), or Israel needs to just kick out the Palestinians altogether (NOT kill them). When Israel took that land after winning war (like all countries do) they made the mistake of letting the Palestinians live there. It's like Israel was too nice, but not nice enough to decide to divide into two. The only logical solution is two nations. But if millions of Muslims keep advocating outright death to Israel, and violently attacking and protesting against Israel, then Israel just needs to throw out the anti-Israelis from within and become one culturally Jewish state which includes Gaza and Ramallah.


    Your first solution (Palestinian statehood) for Gaza and the West Bank is a fine one. But your second solution is problematic. Israel can't just kick out the Palestinians who live in the West Bank and Gaza. They live there, and have lived there since before Israel won those territories in 67. I objected to another poster's hope that the Jews be forced to leave Israel and similarly I could not support forcing all Palestinians to leave. Besides, where would you have them sent?
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    May 15, 2011 11:56 PM GMT
    Your efforts may be more effective if you figure out how to mussle Caesarea4. That man can turn a proponent into an opponent faster and more completely than anybody I have ever, ever seen!

    And if you are sick of it, imagine how the Palestinians feel after 60 YEARS!
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    May 16, 2011 12:59 AM GMT
    Caslon18000 saidYour efforts may be more effective if you figure out how to mussle Caesarea4. That man can turn a proponent into an opponent faster and more completely than anybody I have ever, ever seen!

    And if you are sick of it, imagine how the Palestinians feel after 60 YEARS!


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    You sure got this right Caslon, He is exactly after reading the most outrageous propaganda excuses for Iraeli atrocities, and his chutzpah in making such statements as "the gazans were not hungry enough to require aid according to laws of war" GOD DAMN there's enough chutzpah in making such a statement to warrant him a good fist sandwich if I were a Gazan. then some of these guys call us Israeli haters because we take the dumb fuck to task for it.

    Its interesting that Jake started this topic, because while outside working in my yard, I was trying to figure out why Jews seem to always immediately jump on anyone pointing out what needs to change from Israels side, as antisemitism or that they want to see Israel destroyed. Israel seems to have this chutzpah to expect to get everything even though they stoled it, built on it and it doesn't belong to them, then in the bargaining seem to think they should get back. Then scratch their heads (so too speak) when the Palestinians say no way, and walk away from the negotiating table. Israel wants to steal their cake, keep their cake and yet eat it too. Then they wonder why they are so Isolated as C4 complained of recently. Its mindbending to figure out how these people can be so blind to their actions and yet so unable to understand the natural RE-action. Its like Israel expects to fuck over the Palestinians and fully expect to be thanked for doing it and just cannot understand why they're not thankful. LOL, MINDBENDING !!!

    Like Jake said above, Land we won in 1967, like any other country. LOL !! Well sorry, this is a different world than when the US hundred + years ago was winning land by war. and there is actually quite a difference in taking land from roving bands of Indians compared to forcing Palestinians off of their established farms and homes, and by the way this is still going on. This is 2011 not 1811, (I think the US treated the Indian terribly, does that mean I hate the US and want to see it destroyed)

    The world is watching and has to a large degree worn out their patience with Israel and it chutzpah in pulling off such atrocities as attacking that aid flotilla, killing nine unarmed people, one American, then sending AIPAC to get signatures from every congressman in the US they could, to get a signature from on a letter stating that it was all for 'self defense', THE HELL !! and it was illegal in that they pulled this one off in international water. The letter by the way went to Obama to influence him to help them stifle a full and complete investigation. The world watches this stuff and sees how unfair it is and its Israels own actions bringing about their Isolation.

    I for one do not hate Israel, I do not want to see Israel destroyed, I don't even hate LEERON, the RJ ZIONIST PROPAGANDIST IN CHIEF. I would like for Jake to quote where I hate anyone here, and who is it that he can quote saying they want israel destroyed. there is one who lost his mother to a God damned Israeli Sniper who might, but I don't even think he's said He wants Israel destroyed.

    Jake, take your blinders off, and thereby quit equating thorough disgust with ZIONIST PROPAGANDA as LEERON dishes with hating ISRAEL. That Propaganda happens to be used to cover up many an Israeli atrocity, so that is why many of us expose those atrocities to counter their being hidden for the sake of making Palestinians always look like the villain and Israel the victim when actuality has it that Israel is the real aggressor. WHO IS STEALING WHOSE LAND, WHO IS DESTROYING WHOSE HOMES, WHO IS BUILDING SETTLEMENTS ON WHOSE STOLEN LAND.

    Jake why aren't you one of the Gay Jewish guys pushing for Israel to stop this shit, why aren't you trying to convince LEERON to stop the rediculous PROPAGANDA to make Israeli wrongs right and the settlements OK because after all as he says, Palestine never was a country anyway, so its not stealing to force Palestinians off their places so ZIONIST SETTLERS can build settlements on Palestinian land. And he does this like some robot, that has some damn book in its fucking computer brain without feeling, then calls the Palestinian who calls him on his tactics, a fool, stupid, hater for his cause, liar for his cause, and the list goes on and on. So is your support with this ZIONIST PROPAGANDA to cover up Israeli atrocities or are you for some common sense, give and take, good faith negotiations where the settlement building stops completely ?

    You will have to face it, that here on RJ is just like real life in Israel, there is a source of continuous acts that are counter to Palestinians living in peace, and that bring about push back, wrong actions bring reactions, stop causeing the problem and there won't be all the push back and reactions that your seeing here on RJ to LEERONS bullshit PROPAGANDA, and the same with Israel, stop stomping on the Palestinians rights and the push back, the retaliations will stop. When you and several others stop making excuses for the mistreatment of the Palestinians you will see a totally different reaction. Like Jaym86 said above, Israel has some blame in this. Its also time your realize that the ZIONIST ZEALOTS HAVE IN THE PAST AND ARE NOW manipulating facts and the reality on the ground to make the Palestinians look like all the problem and NO THE PALESTINIANS ARE NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM. FACE IT !!! THE REST OF THE WORLD SEES IT, Most now in the US are seeing through Israels coverups, and are against those billions of dollars going to Israel, They are disgusted with AIPAC's influence on Congressmen. Had Israel actually sought peace in the last decade in good faith while actually completely haulting the settlement building, the US citizenry wouldn't have been against Israel, like they are now. Polls show what I am saying. So why can't you Israeli's see it, therein lays the reason for Israels Isolation.



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    May 16, 2011 1:01 AM GMT
    The theme song of Palestine and its dominant religion:

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    May 16, 2011 7:19 PM GMT
    Just put reallifedad on ignore because he's a Jew hating nazi terrorist.

    What other dumb fucks wants to post anti-semetism? icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 16, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    Caslon18000 saidAnd if you are sick of it, imagine how the Palestinians feel after 60 YEARS!


    The majority of them are under 18. So no, I don't think they can imagine anything beyond 60 years much less 18 years.
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    May 16, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
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    Caslon18000 saidAnd if you are sick of it, imagine how the Palestinians feel after 60 YEARS!


    The majority of them are under 18. So no, I don't think they can imagine anything beyond 60 years much less 18 years.

    Even 18 years. You haven't endured these threads for 18 years yet you've gone bonkers. And you shouldn't be labeling others as Nazis, sine there are no greater nazi-like racists in the world today than the Israelis. Judea delenda est!
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    Caslon18000 saidAnd if you are sick of it, imagine how the Palestinians feel after 60 YEARS!


    The majority of them are under 18. So no, I don't think they can imagine anything beyond 60 years much less 18 years.

    Even 18 years. You haven't endured these threads for 18 years yet you've gone bonkers. And you shouldn't be labeling others as Nazis, since there are no greater nazi-like racists in the world today than the Israelis. Judea delenda est!
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    May 16, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
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    Caslon18000 saidAnd if you are sick of it, imagine how the Palestinians feel after 60 YEARS!


    The majority of them are under 18. So no, I don't think they can imagine anything beyond 60 years much less 18 years.

    Even 18 years. You haven't endured these threads for 18 years yet you've gone bonkers. And you shouldn't be labeling others as Nazis, sine there are no greater nazi-like racists in the world today than the Israelis. Judea delenda est!


    What a disgusting comparison.
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    May 16, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    I flew a banner over some Israeli function for a friend of mine yesterday.
    I can hardly wait to show him the pics I got from the plane...totally learned something new about Israel...
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    May 16, 2011 8:15 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidJust put reallifedad on ignore because he's a Jew hating nazi terrorist.

    What other dumb fucks wants to post anti-semetism? icon_biggrin.gif

    Got that right, but he is already being punished. He has to live with himself and can't put himself on ignore in the real world. That is a fate worse than death.
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    May 16, 2011 9:16 PM GMT
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    JAKEBENSON saidJust put reallifedad on ignore because he's a Jew hating nazi terrorist.

    What other dumb fucks wants to post anti-semetism? icon_biggrin.gif

    Got that right, but he is already being punished. He has to live with himself and can't put himself on ignore in the real world. That is a fate worse than death.



    Now I've heard everything !!! LOL !! I hate jews like I hate my right foot that I lead off with when I walk. and because I point out how rediculous your being Jake by your little tantrum, I am not anti semitic.

    and lordy SoCal, your so far off on this its giving me a good laugh !!! LOL !! were I a hater, I would have a problem with my conscience but since I am not a hater I point out what I see as wrong such as Israel stealing land and robbing homes from Palestinians, doesn't your conscience bother you when you back the likes of the DUMB FUCK Zionist Propagandist LEERON, who claims Palestine never existed so its ok according to him and his ZIONIST FANATICS to take land, farms and homes from Palestinians?

    Tell Jake to calm down and stop wearing his feelings on his sleeves
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    May 16, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
    JakeBenson> I'm sick of reading all these terrorist threads against Israel

    What's even more screwed up is that after posting dozens of such threads they post something like:
    Peaceful Palestinian-Israeli thread ONLY

    Yet look how little they actually have to say.

    In the best of cases, assuming they do wish to end the violence, it is clear that they aren't willing to assume any of the responsiblities or obligations required to do so - only the benefits which will follow. And when those benefits don't arrive (because they haven't lifted a finger other than to point it at Israel), they then attempt to demonize Israel in a campaign to not only rationalize and justify the anti-Israel violence, but to perpetuate it.

    UNSCR 242, Oslo Accords, Camp David 2000 and Taba 2001
    (I support the Clinton COMPROMISE parameters. Do you?!)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/354843

    Some of them come right out and say they are against compromise.

    Yalla, Peace!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1285693

    Listen to the silences there, too.


    Their position, to borrow from a famous quote, is: "Millions for violence and terrorism, but not one cent for peace!"
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    May 16, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidJakeBenson> I'm sick of reading all these terrorist threads against Israel

    What's even more screwed up is that after posting dozens of such threads they post something like:
    Peaceful Palestinian-Israeli thread ONLY

    Yet look how little they actually have to say.

    In the best of cases, assuming they do wish to end the violence, it is clear that they aren't willing to assume any of the responsiblities or obligations required to do so - only the benefits which will follow. And when those benefits don't arrive (because they haven't lifted a finger other than to point it at Israel), they then attempt to demonize Israel in a campaign to not only rationalize and justify the anti-Israel violence, but to perpetuate it.

    UNSCR 242, Oslo Accords, Camp David 2000 and Taba 2001
    (I support the Clinton COMPROMISE parameters. Do you?!)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/354843

    Some of them come right out and say they are against compromise.

    Yalla, Peace!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1285693

    Listen to the silences there, too.


    Their position, to borrow from a famous quote, is: "Millions for violence and terrorism, but not one cent for peace!"



    YOUR F'N ZIONIST FANATICISM RUNS SO DEEP WITHIN YOU, THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY BLIND !! Your an OBNOXIOUS POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK
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    May 16, 2011 10:05 PM GMT
    PaulFlexes> The Flintstones were... Israeli?

    Yabba Dabba Jew
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    May 16, 2011 10:16 PM GMT
    Thanks, Jake.
    Good for you.


    People are almost always taught to hate.
    It's handed down from generation to generation.

    The Palestinians could have made peace with Israel, any day between 1948 and today. But, they don't want peace. They can't get past their obsession with destroying Israel.

    The Palestinians could have had their own country; they could have lived peacefully, next to the Israelis; they could have lived peacefully, WITH the Israelis.

    But, they chose to send their children, as suicide bombers, into heavily populated areas of Israel, to blow themselves up, along with as many Israelis as possible. What kind of parent does that to their child ?

    Then, the Palestinians elected a terrorist group to run their settlement, hoping that it would give them a leg up in their life's goal of destroying Israel. But, after many, many years of putting up with rockets being launched into Israel, the Israelis invaded the Gaza Strip and slapped them down.

    Still, today, the Palestinians refuse to choose peace.
    Their loss.

    BTW, you won't get many of the Jew haters to stand up and be counted, because they're a bunch of pansy asses, even on the internet.
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    May 16, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    So, your defending parents who strap bombs to their children and send them out to blow themselves up.
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    May 16, 2011 11:32 PM GMT
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    Webster666 saidSo, your defending parents who strap bombs to their children and send them out to blow themselves up.

    Come on man, you don't usually go for the straw-man stuff....where did I defend that?


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    your right here and in your earlier response to Muscle666, he by the way is a good and decent guy as is Jake, and as is dglater, jrunner, jprich and many other jewish guys, but how in the hell does a person cut through their national bent toward everything is about their Israel ? How in the world can they for decades justify month after month of pushing Palestinians out of their homes and off their farms, forcing many of them into refugee status having to live like campers in all the country's surrounding Israel. Then fully expect no reaction but to be seeking peace with those who keep right on stealing more and more land and to be seeking peace without retaliation with the very ones taking over for destruction of more and more Palestinian homes.

    Kinda like the Israeli's sticking it too them, then asking them to come to the negotiating table, where the thieves fully expect to extract more from those whom they'd been stealing from for decades, then to make it worse, actually turn around and throw it in their face saying "the Palestinians don't want Peace", and also throw up that the neighboring Muslim country's don't take as good care of their refugees as the Israeli's do. NOW DOES THAT TAKE ONE HELL OF A LOT OF JEWISH NATIONAL CHUTZPAH OR WHAT ????

    OH MY GOD WHAT A MIND BENDING, HEADACHE PRODUCING, EXTREMELY MADDENING, PLACE THIS PUTS THE PALESTINIAN IN, OR ANYONE TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS CHUTZPAH TO ALWAYS PRESENT THEMSELVES AS RIGHT NO DAMN MATTER WHAT THE FACTS ARE INVOLVING THE MISTREATMENT OF THE PALESTINIANS.

    But I will be labeled an extreme hater for saying the above, and I am seeking the destruction of Israel according to these jewish folk.

    YET THEY WONDER WHY THEY ARE AS LEERON SAID, "MORE ISOLATED THAN EVER BEFORE". But its not their fault !!! Its everyones fault around them, Whatever they do is right and everyone in the world who doesn't approve of their land grabbing and settlement building is anti semitic.

    So try rolling this around in your heads and see what comes out of it !!! LOL !!! If the ISRAELI'S DON'T DO ONE HELL OF A LOT OF SOUL SEARCHING, AND DO ONE HELL OF A LOT OF CHANGING FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP, BECAUSE THE PALESTINIANS HAVE NO MORE TO GIVE, EXCEPT TAKE THE ASS FUCKING AND LIKE IT !!! BECAUSE WITH THE CURRENT ZIONIST FANATIC LEADERSHIP IN PLACE THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF STOPPING THE LAND GRABBING NOR THE SETTLEMENT BUILDING, EVEN IF THE HAMAS RADICALS STOPPED THE BOMBING.

    "WRITER" STOPS TYPING and SHRUGS SHOULDERS IN AMAZEMENT AT DEALING WITH SUCH CHUTZPAH !!!! WHAT THE HELL TO DO ???? .
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    May 17, 2011 6:11 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidSo you don't want to kill Arabs...you just want to ethnically cleanse them from their ancestral lands. That's mighty white of you, Jake.

    I think that moral high-ground you're standing on is just a pile of shit.


    You totally misinterpreted what I said. Reread it before I rape you with an elephant's penis.
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    May 17, 2011 6:24 AM GMT
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    Leave it to Phoebe Buffay to put an end to all conflicts! icon_biggrin.gif