Nearly 80 Percent Of Spanish Youth Support Gay Marriage

  • metta

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    May 16, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
    Nearly 80 Percent Of Spanish Youth Support Gay Marriage

    http://ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=8387&MediaType=1&Category=24
  • Webster666

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    May 16, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    I don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.
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    May 16, 2011 10:02 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.


    Sweetie, Spain is a country which is very pro gay. Spanish is not a euphemism for mexican. It means spanish.
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    May 16, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.


    The article said Spanish as in Spain as in Europe, and it also said youth.
  • tazzari

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    May 16, 2011 11:53 PM GMT
    Can we get them to move here?
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    May 17, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.
    wow....:I
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    May 17, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    i_VAN said
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.
    wow....:I


    What is your view on that pray tell, you being a latin stud yourself and all?
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    May 17, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
    Spain is culturally quite different from Latin America. Machismo is definitely a real phenomenon in many Latin American countries. But Spain pretty much blends in with the rest of Europe. Religion has played a much smaller role in people's lives there since democracy was established in 1975.
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    May 17, 2011 6:06 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.

    It's not quite accurate.
    "Latin/Spanish/Mexican" places where gay marriage is legal: Portugal, Spain, Argentina, Mexico D.F.
    "Latin/Spanish/Mexican" places with gay civil unions: Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Uruguay
    The people with the machismo bull shit are doing better than the US. Surprised?
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    May 17, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.


    Spanish from Spain.
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    May 17, 2011 4:01 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.


    Spanish from Spain.


    Well, Spaniards are Hispanic too. Spain & Portugal were called "Hispania" during the Roman Empire, hence where the term originates.

    Although yes, calling Latin Americans Spanish is not quite right (though likely they do have Spanish ancestry).
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    May 17, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.



    How many actual Spaniards do you know? I've been here a few times, I have many spanish friends and I've been living here the past 5 months. This country is pretty closed minded in terms of race but surprisingly open to homosexual relationships. Two of the biggest, most radical changes in this country after the dictatorship ended was that women were allowed to work and homosexuals were allowed to marry. The "machismo bull shit" gets handed down in every culture; what are you gonna do about it?
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    May 17, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    Just don't call Basques and Catalans Spanish unless you want things to get ugly icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 17, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.


    Ok, someone needs to chill. First of all, as a spaniar and a latin person, i have to say that just the assumption that latin=mexican shows a level of ignorance beyond belief. I was born and raise in venezuela and is probably easier to find mexican descendants in the us than in my country. we have different traditions, culture and words.

    Secondly, as someone who also lived in spain and went to college there, i can tell you that spaniar society is very open about sexuality, and that the religion influence have not really been transposed to the younger generations, but quite the opposite. Been a Spaniar citizen i have all the rights that no gay in the united states have, to start with the fact that if i get marry my partner would get the citizenship and be consider my HUSBAND, not partner or whatever weir second class title you want to make up.

    As far as LATIN AMERICAN countries, is true that machismo exist but we are moving forward waaay faster that the us and most countries, as it have been pointed out that countries like brazil, uruguay, argentina and even MEXICO, have legalize the gay marriage or have some time of similar title or are working on one.

    So yeah, i do believe it. And i think is great. icon_smile.gif
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    May 17, 2011 4:35 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidJust don't call Basques and Catalans Spanish unless you want things to get ugly icon_biggrin.gif


    true, dont call venezuelans argentinians or mexicans either, things doesnt get as ugly but we wont be happy either.
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    May 17, 2011 4:38 PM GMT
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    pocketnico saidJust don't call Basques and Catalans Spanish unless you want things to get ugly icon_biggrin.gif


    true, dont call venezuelans argentinians or mexicans either, things doesnt get as ugly but we wont be happy either.


    Heh, I have a friend who's rather a bit of a Catalan nationalist. She was born in Spain (Catalunya, of course) and lived there most of her life. Of course, she speaks Spanish in addition to Catalan. But she insists on not being classified as Hispanic/Latina or even Spanish living in the US.
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    May 17, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidJust don't call Basques and Catalans Spanish unless you want things to get ugly icon_biggrin.gif



    Haha. I learned that one fast! Can I tell you how many "Catalonia is NOT Spain" signs there were in Barcelona? Catalan pride. "I'd rather speak english with you than spanish if you don't know Catalan." The Catalans claiming anything Spanish as really catalan. Oh geeze. Idk why they want independence so bad and I'm not gonna comment on if they should have it or not, but it was so in your face I was fed up with the whole Catalan pride thing.

    Still love this country in total and loved Barcelona. Haha.
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    May 17, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
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    pocketnico saidJust don't call Basques and Catalans Spanish unless you want things to get ugly icon_biggrin.gif



    Haha. I learned that one fast! Can I tell you how many "Catalonia is NOT Spain" signs there were in Barcelona? Catalan pride. "I'd rather speak english with you than spanish if you don't know Catalan." The Catalans claiming anything Spanish as really catalan. Oh geeze. Idk why they want independence so bad and I'm not gonna comment on if they should have it or not, but it was so in your face I was fed up with the whole Catalan pride thing.

    Still love this country in total and loved Barcelona. Haha.


    I honestly love the Catalan language. I'd take that over Castilian Spanish any day. Although oddly enough, Catalans seem OK with us Andaluces icon_smile.gif They seem to find our funny accent charming.
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    May 17, 2011 4:49 PM GMT
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    Arc87 said
    pocketnico saidJust don't call Basques and Catalans Spanish unless you want things to get ugly icon_biggrin.gif


    true, dont call venezuelans argentinians or mexicans either, things doesnt get as ugly but we wont be happy either.


    Heh, I have a friend who's rather a bit of a Catalan nationalist. She was born in Spain (Catalunya, of course) and lived there most of her life. Of course, she speaks Spanish in addition to Catalan. But she insists on not being classified as Hispanic/Latina or even Spanish living in the US.


    Some Basques, and Catalans are very nationalist to the point of getting angry if you call them Spanish. In my case my dad is from the canary islands and i was raised in venezuela, so you can call me spanish, hispanic, or latin, and i would be fine. catalan = spanish, make sense, wether they like or not, they are part of the same country, on the other hand latin=mexican is just pure stupidity.
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    May 17, 2011 4:52 PM GMT
    It's interesting how Latin Americans (especially those living in the US) really pride themselves in being Spanish speakers, whereas in Spain it's more chic to be a speaker of your regional language than of Spanish.
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    May 17, 2011 4:54 PM GMT
    I hope all the violent conflict in Mexico doesn't slow down the pro-gay legislation that could happen in the near future. Although I'm sure most people are more concerned about the conflict than the pursuit of happiness for LGBT.
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    May 17, 2011 4:58 PM GMT
    Just because 5th generation americans insist that they are "Irish" or "Italian" doesn´t mean that the rest of the world works this way.

    Latin Americans are not spanish even if their bisabuela came from Galicia
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    May 17, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidJust because 5th generation americans insist that they are "Irish" or "Italian" doesn´t mean that the rest of the world works this way.

    Latin Americans are not spanish even if their bisabuela came from Galicia


    Although oddly enough, it's so common to hear Latin Americans call Spain "La Madre Patria". Not many Americans refer to the UK or their other countries of origin as the Motherland these days.
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    May 17, 2011 5:31 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI don't believe that for one minute.
    The Latin/Spanish/Mexican machismo bull shit gets handed down from generation to generation.
    There isn't 80% of ANYBODY in favor of gay marriage.



    You're confusing Latin with Latino.

    Latin is France, Spain, Italy, Romania, and Portugal. Term no one uses in Europe anymore. They are called the Romance countries as in Romanic, from Roman Empire.

    Both Latino and Hispanic words were popularized by the US government to refer to countries formerly ruled by the Spanish Empire in Central and South America.


    ... Jamaicans/ Americans/British...