FOX NEWS: GOP CANDIDATE WILL LOSE TO OBAMA

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    May 18, 2011 7:39 PM GMT
    "No one wants to say it out loud but at the moment the polls indicate that whoever wins the GOP nomination will probably go on to lose to President Obama in the general election."

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/18/incredible-shrinking-gop-presidential-race/
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    May 18, 2011 8:23 PM GMT
    catfish5 said"No one wants to say it out loud but at the moment the polls indicate that whoever wins the GOP nomination will probably go on to lose to President Obama in the general election."

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/18/incredible-shrinking-gop-presidential-race/


    WAAAAAAAY too early, but who knows, I could end up voting for Obama if he does as much learning on the domestic side as he did on the anti-terrorist side.
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    May 18, 2011 8:28 PM GMT
    We my American husband and I have way to much care for the U.S. of A to vote for Obama.

    Politicians like diapers need to be changed regularly, for much the same reasion. Something smelly is coming out of the White House.....
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    May 18, 2011 8:30 PM GMT
    catfish5 said"No one wants to say it out loud but at the moment the polls indicate that whoever wins the GOP nomination will probably go on to lose to President Obama in the general election."

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/18/incredible-shrinking-gop-presidential-race/




    It's ridiculously early for anyone to be predicting anything. So much is going to change in the next 3 months, let alone the next 18 months, that is likely to change the whole scenario. I'd bet that someone is going to jump in late that will really shake things up.
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    May 18, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
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    catfish5 said"No one wants to say it out loud but at the moment the polls indicate that whoever wins the GOP nomination will probably go on to lose to President Obama in the general election."

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/18/incredible-shrinking-gop-presidential-race/




    It's ridiculously early for anyone to be predicting anything. So much is going to change in the next 3 months, let alone the next 18 months, that is likely to change the whole scenario. I'd bet that someone is going to jump in late that will really shake things up.


    Huntsman?
    Daniels?
    Jeb Bush?

    Daniel's problem is his wife. She's already run off on him once many years ago.

    Who were you thinking? On your dream list?
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    May 18, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    Personally, I think there is a growing majority of even Republicans who are seeing through and disgusted with Republican candidates transparent lies, obviously exagerated stories and policies favoring the rich they use to get money for their campaigns and maintain a following with TBaggers and the Religious Far Right.

    As a result, unless a moderate can somehow manage to get past the Baggers and Christian Talaban types who seem to be calling the shots, the Republican party has little hope of winning, In fact we may say the pendulum swing back again toward the Dems.
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    May 18, 2011 8:40 PM GMT
    Did you intentionally neglect to mention the person at Fox who made the statement is Juan Williams, a liberal who has been friendly towards Obama? Oh I forgot, the party line is there are no liberals at Fox, so it couldn't be so. Other opinions at Fox and elsewhere have held that 1 on 1 polls are not meaningful because Obama has the bully pulpit and is always in campaign mode, many of the Republicans have not started their campaign mode in a big way. The meaningful polls now pertain to Obama's performance, aside from the temporary bump from Bin Laden.
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    May 18, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    LOL
    Your thread has prompted an immediate panicked response from the RJ right-wingers, catfish!

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    May 18, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    UH OH. FOX NEWS HAS THE SHEEPLE IN A PANIC!

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    May 18, 2011 9:23 PM GMT
    Other than the last two posts, everyone is right!

    1. Unless he screws something up royally or the Repubs nominate someone they haven't thought of yet, Obama has the incumbent advantage and is likely to win. Yay!

    2. But it is far too early to completely write off Republican chances. These things turn on a dime and you never know what will happen.

    3. That said, the growing influence of the extreme right wing of the Republican party is gonna make it really tough for someone with mainstream appeal to get the nomination.

    4. Who really cares what Juan Williams thinks?
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    May 18, 2011 9:25 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]showme said...That said, the growing influence of the extreme right wing of the Republican party is gonna make it really tough for someone with mainstream appeal to get the nomination...../quote]

    which is why "I" and many others have changed their political party prefernece and will be abandoning the GOP party in the future.



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    May 18, 2011 9:26 PM GMT
    I think that it is ridiculous to be predicting a presidential victory when the actual campaigning has not even started yet. Lets see who the GOP candidates are first before jumping to conclusions.
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    May 18, 2011 9:27 PM GMT
    OneGeezer said
    Huntsman?
    Daniels?
    Jeb Bush?

    Daniel's problem is his wife. She's already run off on him once many years ago.

    Who were you thinking? On your dream list?



    Not necessarily MY dream list, but I just think that someone who may be waiting in the wings may also be the one who gathers all the thunder once they do jump in. Definitely do not think it will be Jeb Bush -- maybe in 2016 --- but could be Rick Perry of Texas, Huntsman, and I wouldn't count out Sarah Palin either. She's been suspiciously quiet lately and, say what you want about Sarah Palin, she does have a knack for doing the unexpected and unconventional. She may not necessarily have what it takes to be President, but she definitely knows how to rile people up and light a fire to a campaign.
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    May 18, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    OneGeezer said
    Huntsman?
    Daniels?
    Jeb Bush?

    Daniel's problem is his wife. She's already run off on him once many years ago.

    Who were you thinking? On your dream list?



    Not necessarily MY dream list, but I just think that someone who may be waiting in the wings may also be the one who gathers all the thunder once they do jump in. Definitely do not think it will be Jeb Bush -- maybe in 2016 --- but could be Rick Perry of Texas, Huntsman, and I wouldn't count out Sarah Palin either. She's been suspiciously quiet lately and, say what you want about Sarah Palin, she does have a knack for doing the unexpected and unconventional. She may not necessarily have what it takes to be President, but she definitely knows how to rile people up and light a fire to a campaign.


    OH HELL NO!! NOT SLICK RICK!! I JUST THREW UP THINKING ABOUT IT.
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    May 18, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    OH HELL NO!! NOT SLICK RICK!! I JUST THREW UP THINKING ABOUT IT.


    Yeah, me too. Urp.
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    May 18, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    It has to be said the present crop of candidates are dreadful even by Republican standards. There's no one of the caliber of *ANY* recent Republican president.
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    May 18, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidIt has to be said the present crop of candidates are dreadful even by Republican standards. There's no one of the caliber of *ANY* recent Republican president.


    I doubt Ron Paul or Romney would be nearly as bad as Bush, so i find your comment highly inaccurate.
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    May 18, 2011 10:10 PM GMT
    realifedad said Personally, I think there is a growing majority of even Republicans who are seeing through and disgusted with Republican candidates transparent lies, obviously exagerated stories and policies favoring the rich they use to get money for their campaigns and maintain a following with TBaggers and the Religious Far Right.

    As a result, unless a moderate can somehow manage to get past the Baggers and Christian Talaban types who seem to be calling the shots, the Republican party has little hope of winning, In fact we may say the pendulum swing back again toward the Dems.





    I wholeheartedly agree.
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    May 18, 2011 10:59 PM GMT
    realifedad said Personally, I think there is a growing majority of even Republicans who are seeing through and disgusted with Republican candidates transparent lies, obviously exagerated stories and policies favoring the rich they use to get money for their campaigns and maintain a following with TBaggers and the Religious Far Right.

    As a result, unless a moderate can somehow manage to get past the Baggers and Christian Talaban types who seem to be calling the shots, the Republican party has little hope of winning, In fact we may say the pendulum swing back again toward the Dems.


    "Christian Talaban types "

    There you lefties go again.



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    May 18, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
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    TigerTim saidIt has to be said the present crop of candidates are dreadful even by Republican standards. There's no one of the caliber of *ANY* recent Republican president.


    I doubt Ron Paul or Romney would be nearly as bad as Bush, so i find your comment highly inaccurate.


    If you don't like Bush then for God's sakes shave it.
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    May 18, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim saidIt has to be said the present crop of candidates are dreadful even by Republican standards. There's no one of the caliber of *ANY* recent Republican president.


    I doubt Ron Paul or Romney would be nearly as bad as Bush, so i find your comment highly inaccurate.


    If you don't like Bush then for God's sakes shave it.


    That's funny, Geezer!

    Mock - I don't think Romney or Paul would be as bad as Bush, but Paul can't win the nomination and it's questionable that Romney can. In Paul's case, his views are too extreme for policy-making, which is why even I can love him on one issue and be horrified by the next one. Romney is not going over well with the Tea Party, and Obama is going to hand HCR around his neck.

    That said, I don't think it's a done deal. The Republicans could still bring up a dark horse candidate, similar to Obama in 2007.
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    May 18, 2011 11:25 PM GMT
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    OneGeezer said
    mocktwinkie said
    TigerTim saidIt has to be said the present crop of candidates are dreadful even by Republican standards. There's no one of the caliber of *ANY* recent Republican president.


    I doubt Ron Paul or Romney would be nearly as bad as Bush, so i find your comment highly inaccurate.


    If you don't like Bush then for God's sakes shave it.


    That's funny, Geezer!

    Mock - I don't think Romney or Paul would be as bad as Bush, but Paul can't win the nomination and it's questionable that Romney can. In Paul's case, his views are too extreme for policy-making, which is why even I can love him on one issue and be horrified by the next one. Romney is not going over well with the Tea Party, and Obama is going to hand HCR around his neck.

    That said, I don't think it's a done deal. The Republicans could still bring up a dark horse candidate, similar to Obama in 2007.


    I don't believe it - a civil post from Christian with no name calling. Congrats!!!

    I’m not really thrilled with any of the announced candidates or ones thought sure to be running. True, its way too early, but they’d better get their ass in gear. Gringrich still has foot in mouth disease as he proved over the weekend. Palin – no way. Romeny – who is he – really? I still think Daniels if he runs, but his wife may well run off on him again or Huntsman. I just don’t have any other ideas.

    I disagree with you on Jeb Bush, but he's adamant that he will not run.
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    May 18, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidIt has to be said the present crop of candidates are dreadful even by Republican standards. There's no one of the caliber of *ANY* recent Republican president.


    I definitely disagree. I think Romney would be a fine President and represent the USA very well. Ron Paul would probably be more "For The People" than any of them. I agree that none of them seem to be igniting any real fire in anyone just yet, but it's way WAY early. Let's see where things stand in September. All kinds of stuff is going to happen this summer to change the whole landscape. I'm sure some surprises are in store as well. Regardless, Obama is going to be extremely difficult to beat, and I'm probably just fine with that too.
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    May 18, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidbut Paul can't win the nomination and it's questionable that Romney can.


    I wouldn't be so sure about that. There was a time when I remember people saying Obama could never win the nomination and that his only hope would be as Hillary's running mate. Anything can happen under the right circumstances, and I think Americans are just fed up enough with both parties that someone a little more "out of the box" like Ron Paul might actually resinate.

    I agree with you Christian that a "Dark Horse" could be on the horizon. Not sure who that would be unless it's someone really out of left (or maybe I should say right) field like say John Thune (though he has already said no) or Texas Governor Rick Perry...or Huntsman. As for Mitch Daniels, I think he is so lacking in charisma that he would never get the nomination. It's going to take someone very charismatic and Presidential to beat Obama, and I just don't see Daniels being that guy.
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    May 19, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidbut Paul can't win the nomination and it's questionable that Romney can.


    I wouldn't be so sure about that. There was a time when I remember people saying Obama could never win the nomination and that his only hope would be as Hillary's running mate. Anything can happen under the right circumstances, and I think Americans are just fed up enough with both parties that someone a little more "out of the box" like Ron Paul might actually resinate.

    I agree with you Christian that a "Dark Horse" could be on the horizon. Not sure who that would be unless it's someone really out of left (or maybe I should say right) field like say John Thune (though he has already said no) or Texas Governor Rick Perry...or Huntsman. As for Mitch Daniels, I think he is so lacking in charisma that he would never get the nomination. It's going to take someone very charismatic and Presidential to beat Obama, and I just don't see Daniels being that guy.


    Mitch Daniels is 5' 7" with a comb over, and I hate to say it .... Plus he's not very exciting, but you never know. I'm starting to prefer Huntsman over Daniels. Given Huntsman's family history, he most assuredly would come down with cancer while in office. It’s gotten his entire family. Sr. has had cancer three times so far. No one is perfect.