Need someone to TOUCH my JUNK

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    May 19, 2011 10:17 PM GMT
    OK, creative people. I'm creating a wall art piece as part of some art group I joined. Just a fun thing. So the concept was find junk and make something. I chose to find pieces of rusty metal and rubber on the road. My concept is 4 12" x 12" squares with the stuff on it. Not overly creative, I know, but some interesting shapes and projections.

    What I need help on is deciding what color to paint or stain the wood. My place is safari tones, so all shades of brown and tan, etc. But that may not make rust show off well. I've tried several stains and nothing looks good. I need help. I appreciate your suggestions. It will be hung on an off-white wall.

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    May 19, 2011 10:19 PM GMT
    Mahogany
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    May 19, 2011 10:20 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidMahogany


    That's too dark, you think? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 19, 2011 10:25 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    paulflexes saidMahogany


    That's too dark, you think? icon_rolleyes.gif
    Not if you use an accent light. icon_wink.gif
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    May 19, 2011 11:32 PM GMT
    Mahogany was my first thought too.

    The guy you really want to ask is Caslon. He has done beautiful woodwork.

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    May 19, 2011 11:40 PM GMT
    Upper_Canadian saidMahogany was my first thought too.

    The guy you really want to ask is Caslon. He has done beautiful woodwork.



    Won't mahogany be too dark and hide rubber pieces?
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    May 20, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    That's not worthy staining. You just attached the stuff to boards.

    Do you have to use everything just cuz you picked it up? Edit your junk.

    I would think the idea is to use the junk to make a display that creates something "beyond" the junk, so that when people see it, they see something else and not just junk.

    You have a number of circular objects. Could you make just a single display of the circular objects, instead of four panels? Arrange and paint them so they make an interesting display.

    The clue to creativity is to not stop at the first "solution." But set that idea aside and try to think of another solution. With that technique, you will eventually come up with a more creative solution.

    And remember....Less is more.


    Here's an idea. Do the crisp white background that Timber suggests below and paint the circular items the colors of the spectrum and then arrange them in the order of the spectrum. Maybe arrange them in an exponential curve from the lower left corner of a panel to the upper right. So you have a large field of white showing and this lower curved area filled with the circular items making a colorful spectral display.
  • Timbales

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    May 20, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    I'd paint the boards a crisp, glossy white for the contrast between them and the rusted, aged artifacts.
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    May 20, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    Another idea....do the pieces have to be laying flat?

    Can something interesting be done if you stand the circular pieces on their edges?

    Do you have time to go out and collect more circular stuff? Make a progression of the circles in order of size.

    Or overlap and stack them to make an interesting 3-D typography.
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    May 20, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
    Caslon18000 saidAnother idea....do the pieces have to be laying flat?

    Can something interesting be done if you stand the circular pieces on their edges?

    Do you have time to go out and collect more circular stuff? Make a progression of the circles in order of size.

    Or overlap and stack them to make an interesting 3-D typography.


    Trust me, I am still stopping and grabbing stuff off roads. Thought about everything you suggested. I think if anything I am now an official road junk hoarder.
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    May 20, 2011 1:02 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    Caslon18000 saidAnother idea....do the pieces have to be laying flat?

    Can something interesting be done if you stand the circular pieces on their edges?

    Do you have time to go out and collect more circular stuff? Make a progression of the circles in order of size.

    Or overlap and stack them to make an interesting 3-D typography.


    Trust me, I am still stopping and grabbing stuff off roads. Thought about everything you suggested. I think if anything I am now an official road junk hoarder.

    You thought of everything I suggested and THAT is what you came up with?!?! ... icon_eek.gif
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    May 20, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    Caslon18000 said
    wrestlervic said
    Caslon18000 saidAnother idea....do the pieces have to be laying flat?

    Can something interesting be done if you stand the circular pieces on their edges?

    Do you have time to go out and collect more circular stuff? Make a progression of the circles in order of size.

    Or overlap and stack them to make an interesting 3-D typography.


    Trust me, I am still stopping and grabbing stuff off roads. Thought about everything you suggested. I think if anything I am now an official road junk hoarder.

    You thought of everything I suggested and THAT is what you came up with?!?! ... icon_eek.gif


    God. I unblocked you for that kind of response? Can't you just die and make this world a better place.
  • rnch

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    May 20, 2011 1:20 AM GMT
    someone post a link to SNL's (in)famous "junk in a box" skit.


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    May 20, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    Caslon18000 said
    wrestlervic said
    Caslon18000 saidAnother idea....do the pieces have to be laying flat?

    Can something interesting be done if you stand the circular pieces on their edges?

    Do you have time to go out and collect more circular stuff? Make a progression of the circles in order of size.

    Or overlap and stack them to make an interesting 3-D typography.


    Trust me, I am still stopping and grabbing stuff off roads. Thought about everything you suggested. I think if anything I am now an official road junk hoarder.

    You thought of everything I suggested and THAT is what you came up with?!?! ... icon_eek.gif


    God. I unblocked you for that kind of response? Can't you just die and make this world a better place.

    Dude, stick to wrestling. It's way too apparent the mental pursuits are not your forte.
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    May 20, 2011 2:05 AM GMT
    The challenge in sculptural arrangements of found objects is to transcend merely making a pattern through context, contrast, texture, mass, light and shadow. Art can tell a story ( not my choice) or explore an intention of the artist of try to elicit a response....


    I'd be intrigued by the cntrast between how the natural wood prducts ages and weathers vs hw the manmade things do.

    Maybe the next thing to bring to it is contrasting preservation method - or contrasdting consumption.decay...



    Interesting line of thought for the evening.




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    May 20, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    OK - after looking at the picture of the stuff you posted:

    cover the board with fabric.


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    May 20, 2011 2:12 AM GMT
    Upper_Canadian saidThe challenge in sculptural arrangements of found objects is to transcend merely making a pattern through context, contrast, texture, mass, light and shadow. Art can tell a story ( not my choice) or explore an intention of the artist of try to elicit a response....


    Wow, what are you smokin'? ;-)

    Actually, the reason why I may stick to just different found shapes on wood, as opposed to melding them together to make some odd art piece, is because I remember each piece and how I had to risk life to get it. My place has lots of patterns and textures all over, so the simplicity of the pieces against a background works fine in this case.
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    May 20, 2011 2:24 AM GMT
    how about getting a faint b&w picture of a long road going off into the distance, blow it up to be the size of the 4 pieces of wood, cut it to cover each piece of wood, but separate the wood as you have in your picture.

    The road picture would have lines that draw you into the arrangement and give some context for where the junk came from. You then leave the junk as-is unpainted.

    Your eye can then focus on the road picture as you look at the whole, or move in on the junk for speculative thought or appreciation of the 'man-made'ness of the objects. This give the overall piece two layers.



  • siannoguy

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    May 20, 2011 2:25 AM GMT
    I think painting the board a smooth metallic gold will bring the interesting shapes into popping attention. You can mount them on top of each other to some abstract forms. Looking at the proportion of the boards to the size of the pieces, I think you can cut them even smaller. Color some pieces some bright colors as accent. Glossy enamel spray paint will make some of these pieces more interesting.

    As a framing effect, paint the sides of the wood board black or any dark color. Remember to apply varnish or gloss finish coat for protection.
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    May 20, 2011 2:36 AM GMT
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    Upper_Canadian saidThe challenge in sculptural arrangements of found objects is to transcend merely making a pattern through context, contrast, texture, mass, light and shadow. Art can tell a story ( not my choice) or explore an intention of the artist of try to elicit a response....


    Wow, what are you smokin'? ;-)

    Actually, the reason why I may stick to just different found shapes on wood, as opposed to melding them together to make some odd art piece, is because I remember each piece and how I had to risk life to get it. My place has lots of patterns and textures all over, so the simplicity of the pieces against a background works fine in this case.

    Ok. Now they are just souvenirs stuck on a board and all pretense of art has been cast aside. You needed a thread for that??? ... icon_rolleyes.gif

    Art is supposed to speak to the viewer. But it's not supposed to say, "And this piece of rusty junk I picked up along side of the Fairfax Parkway." That really speaks to the human condition. ... icon_lol.gif

    That art group is going to start meeting in secret! ... icon_lol.gif
  • Ironman4U

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    May 20, 2011 2:38 AM GMT
    I'm actually an artist, although I have never worked with found objects. So not sure if my suggestion is any better or worse than the others.

    To keep with the organic nature of the rusty pieces, I would go with an earthy tone that would provide enough contrast to be interesting and provide some contrast. Personally, my choice would be a rusty, earthy orange.

    To add interest, I would further dip one side of the found objects in the an orange paint about 2-3 shades darker (can do this by adding some brown to the orange paint). I would then imprint the painted background with the painted imprint and then adhere the piece just off from the imprint...almost creating a mimic ghosting appearance. Of course, once you made the imprint with the piece, I would wipe off the paint so the original found object was returned to it's paint-free condition. It would add interests but be in harmony with the objects themselves.

    Also, when I dipped the pieces to make the ghosting imprint, I would do it without getting too much paint so the imprints were more broken and translucent versus being too opaque. You can practice the technique on a scrap piece of wood to figure out what the "right" amount of paint is and how to best "stamp" it for the imprint.

    I would also use acrylic paint for this instead of oils. Use a sponge brush to apply your base coat to get a smoother texture without streak or brush marks.

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    May 20, 2011 2:42 AM GMT
    Ironman4U saidI'm actually an artist, although I have never worked with found objects. So not sure if my suggestion is any better or worse than the others.

    To keep with the organic nature of the rusty pieces, I would go with an earthy tone that would provide enough contrast to be interesting and provide some contrast. Personally, my choice would be a rusty, earthy orange.

    To add interest, I would further dip one side of the found objects in the an orange paint about 2-3 shades darker (can do this by adding some brown to the orange paint). I would then imprint the painted background with the painted imprint and then adhere the piece just off from the imprint...almost creating a mimic ghosting appearance. Of course, once you made the imprint with the piece, I would wipe off the paint so the original found object was returned to it's paint-free condition. It would add interests but be in harmony with the objects themselves.

    Also, when I dipped the pieces to make the ghosting imprint, I would do it without getting too much paint so the imprints were more broken and translucent versus being too opaque. You can practice the technique on a scrap piece of wood to figure out what the "right" amount of paint is and how to best "stamp" it for the imprint.

    I would also use acrylic paint for this instead of oils. Use a sponge brush to apply your base coat to get a smoother texture without streak or brush marks.



    Hmmm. You may need to bring those abs up from Richmond to show me. I have extra wood, in case we make a mistake. ;-)
  • ramblerman

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    May 20, 2011 3:45 AM GMT
    You could also try going to your local Habitat for Humanity Re-store:
    http://www.habitatpwc.org/restore/index.php
    Might have some interesting linoleum 12x12 tiles.
    If you are looking for serious contrast between the subject & the mount you might try the mylar type shelf liner that looks like stainless steel.
    I like the white idea. It might be interesting to go with your wall color & leave them spaced, could give some interesting shadow lines.
    Just a few ideas, I could go on FOREVER...... that's why I start so many projects but have a hard time getting them done... too many finish lines!!!!
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    May 20, 2011 5:10 AM GMT
    Dark walnut wood, paint the found stuff white.
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    May 20, 2011 5:55 AM GMT
    Making art sometimes doesn't need other people's direct suggestions, coz we don't know your whole process, right?

    But this artist was shown at a show in London some time ago, and I think he's doing interesting things with junk. His name's Olu Amoda.


    Good luck!

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