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    May 24, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
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    May 24, 2011 6:32 PM GMT
    I didnt watch the video.

    I didnt need to.

    This thread title is a generalization, therefore it is wrong.

    We all ready discussed this.

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    May 24, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    Chainers saidI didnt watch the video.

    I didnt need to.

    This thread title is a generalization, therefore it is wrong.

    We all ready discussed this.

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    edited just for your enjoyment. icon_rolleyes.gif

    At this point Chainers, I really don't care what other excuses you use to NOT understand why stereotyping shouldn't exist.

    But that's ok, just one more person unwilling to understand - it's your loss.
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    May 24, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
    You're voice is so sexy icon_smile.gif And you bring up many good points! icon_smile.gif
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    May 24, 2011 7:30 PM GMT
    Kristoff saidYou're voice is so sexy icon_smile.gif And you bring up many good points! icon_smile.gif


    thanks Kristoff, I appreciate that at least one person understands my message.
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    May 25, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    I get annoyed when people assume top = man and bottom = woman my friend told me this and I told her straight up don't say that. She even did this in front of my good friend (guy) and I'm just like thinking dude shut up with this shit.

    Sorry to say I do fall for the straight guys probably just the idea of them since a majority of the gay guys I met (in person) suck ass and all the straight ones are pretty cool. RJ is the only place I've ever found a large majority of gay guys and bi ones that I actually like. Good video overall

    Keep up the posts and follow your heart _Mohammed_, don't be a hater like me. icon_razz.gif
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    May 25, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    Great post and great view on the subject however when doing something like this you open a can of worms because you can't just limit the stereotype to height, attitude and sexual position oral the other stuff you mentioned. You pretty much have to include everything under the sun and in between the shadows. You can't limit it and keep it as simple as Gay vs. Hetero. There are too many factors for it to be that simple.

    So with that being said, MO, what's your take on uncut vs. cut now? (I'm just messing with you by the way). You have to realize that stereotypes can be as factual or fictional depending on the person and there's a little thing called preference that happens to muddle things up a bit. In short, stereotypes serve a purpose and they will continue to exist so long as people like to have variety. I'm willing to bet a stereotype has saved lives just as much as it's probably ruined them. Can't live with them. Can't live without them.

    Everyone is a stereotype.

    Still a great vid though.
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    May 25, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
    You have a shirt on. Fail.
    But at least it showed your sexy arms, so only half fail. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 25, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
    I like how you thought about it.

    And not to be shallow, but your voice....so sweet.
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    May 25, 2011 12:59 AM GMT
    So you are arguing that the dichotomy of these things is a stereotype, but I seem to remember several posts about your 100% preference for being a top.

    How can you perpetuate the stereotype and argue against its existence? Take your statement in your profile about who you are looking for in a partner, it's filled with stereotypes and assumptions. Are they bad? No. You are looking for some very positive traits and behaviors, but they can still be considered stereotypes of a caring and loving person. Not all caring and loving people want you to make them breakfast or even eat breakfast at all icon_razz.gif

    I think you would be better off arguing for a more precise understanding of gay people and not just relying on stereotypes. The validity of a stereotype is not based on whether it describes an entire group of people ("gay people") but of the specific type of group it describes.

    We all try not to be guilty of intellectual sloth when generalizing but it's also impossible not to use heuristics and preconceived notions when we encounter others. The mark of intelligence is that you can go beyond those preconceptions and stereotypes to understand more about the person. Chances are the things we think about most people are way off base and that is why we spend time to get to know the interesting ones.




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    May 25, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    Chainers saidI didnt watch the video.
    I didnt need to.
    This thread title is a generalization, therefore it is wrong.
    We all ready discussed this.
    Next.
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    May 25, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    Excellent video and I agree that your voice is masculine and very sexy.
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    May 25, 2011 8:19 AM GMT
    If hearing with both ears is called stereo hearing, does that mean typing with both hands is stereo typing?
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    May 25, 2011 8:22 AM GMT
    There is a REASON for many stereotypes, e.g. emo kids writing sad poetry in corners and hipsters wearing expensive clothes just to look like junkies, though. Not all stereotypes are baseless.
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    May 25, 2011 9:08 AM GMT
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    FearTheFall saidThere is a REASON for many stereotypes, e.g. emo kids writing sad poetry in corners and hipsters wearing expensive clothes just to look like junkies, though. Not all stereotypes are baseless.


    As baseless as your thread about you leaving RJ?


    There was a reason for that - muhfuggin reaper n sheeit. And some other sheeit I don't wanna post about. Reaper goin round sayin he done walk unseen trails but bitch I does it betta n I founds me some real sheeit goin down in dis ho. Like dayummmmmm. Dis beez outta dis world!
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    May 25, 2011 11:50 AM GMT
    cold said... uh, again?

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1466537/
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1436857/
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1522929/

    wowowowowowowwwwww i only witnessed one of these threads.


    to mohammed:
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    May 25, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidIf hearing with both ears is called stereo hearing, does that mean typing with both hands is stereo typing?



    You win .....icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 28, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    adam228 saidSo you are arguing that the dichotomy of these things is a stereotype, but I seem to remember several posts about your 100% preference for being a top.

    How can you perpetuate the stereotype and argue against its existence? Take your statement in your profile about who you are looking for in a partner, it's filled with stereotypes and assumptions. Are they bad? No. You are looking for some very positive traits and behaviors, but they can still be considered stereotypes of a caring and loving person. Not all caring and loving people want you to make them breakfast or even eat breakfast at all icon_razz.gif

    I think you would be better off arguing for a more precise understanding of gay people and not just relying on stereotypes. The validity of a stereotype is not based on whether it describes an entire group of people ("gay people") but of the specific type of group it describes.

    We all try not to be guilty of intellectual sloth when generalizing but it's also impossible not to use heuristics and preconceived notions when we encounter others. The mark of intelligence is that you can go beyond those preconceptions and stereotypes to understand more about the person. Chances are the things we think about most people are way off base and that is why we spend time to get to know the interesting ones.

    i don't understand how my preference for being a top relates to people who classify as others as tops vs. bottoms. I try not to judge someone before i get to know them. That is essentially the purpose of my video. If people reduced the amount of stereotyping (judging someone before you actually know them) then the world may be a better place. But please do tell me how my preference for topping is somehow related to any of this.

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    May 28, 2011 3:35 AM GMT
    I agree with you that tops are usually the man in the relationship whereas the bottoms can be seen as the female
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    May 28, 2011 3:56 AM GMT
    wowgamer92 saidI agree with you that tops are usually the man in the relationship whereas the bottoms can be seen as the female



    Usually yes ... but that is the reason why people should not stereotype as who the man is or who the woman is because not EVERYONE follows that stereotype.

    remember i said that the top is not always the man and the bottom is not always the woman.
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    May 28, 2011 4:16 AM GMT
    Like a dog with a bone.
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    May 28, 2011 4:19 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidLike a dog with a bone.


    what are you implying?
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    May 28, 2011 4:26 AM GMT
    I think my implication is quite clear.
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    May 28, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidI think my implication is quite clear.


    i would hope that it is clear for you since you are the one saying it.

    now if you don't mind... care to explain what that implication is?
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    Jul 09, 2011 9:14 AM GMT
    _Mohammed_ said


    (1) I concur with virtually everything you said here.

    (2) Your VOICE is indeed to-die-for, babyboy----SO sexy/studly!! OMG!--love it!

    (3) (As you no doubt know by now....) The audio on this vid nonetheless sucks!! You might want to redo this vid sometime, as what you say is spot-on.

    But, yeah, the whole heterosexist/hetero-normative presumption that the bottom-guy in a relationship is ("merely") a "fag" or is effeminate or at least effete (or, in any case, somehow *less* masculine, manly and/or "a MAN" than the top-guy), is BULLSHIT. But, having said that, it is natural for any man who isn't a TOTAL-BOTTOM (and I'm not, I'm a versatile-bottom) to get the urge to FUCK (flex those hips lol) a tight ass (and/or cunt, if he's bi) every once in a while. Personally, for me, what is so wonderful is developing what I call (homo-)erotic/romantic **resonance** & **intimacy** with one's partner. Really psychologically connecting and, again, **resonating** with each other at as-deep-as-attainable level in terms of **man-to-man** EROTIC/ROMANTIC **meaning** (or *significance*). Hope what I've said (these particular 'brain droppings', as the late, great George Carlin would put it!! lol) makes at least *some* sense!! Gay and bi males need to CONTINUE to develop their OWN culture, their OWN conceptualization(s) of gay-male masculine erotic/romantic sensibility(s).

    Mohammed, darlin', keep up the excellent work!! (And henceforward make sure the audio is as good as can be, coz we all wanna hear and enjoy that oh-so-sexy/studly voice of yours---ya feel me?!)