Response to the thread "Would you date a guy who was user?"

  • alphatop

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    May 27, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    Because lots and lots of people are full of prejudice about users or ex-users, so LEARN first, than judge. Actually, don't judge even than. Try walking in somebody else's shoes...
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    May 27, 2011 4:36 PM GMT

    Totally agree, but the ones you think judgmental aren't dating or having sex with anyone let alone an ex user.

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    May 27, 2011 4:58 PM GMT
    Im confused, are you saying we should all be doing drugs?

    Remember I said yes to the guy who was an ex user, but I still dont think I could date someone who is a user in general just because I dont and we wouldnt have that in common.
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    May 27, 2011 5:14 PM GMT
    Chainers saidIm confused, are you saying we should all be doing drugs? Don't some questions just answer themselves?

    I still don't think I could date someone who is a user in general just because I don't and we wouldn't have that in common. That's it, he wants you to date the biggest crack whore you can find.


    If you weren't showing prejudice toward users or ex users, he's not talking to you. If you show empathy and do not morally discount people, he's not talking to you. Your post is antagonizing. Don't plant the seeds of mutiny against an agent of empathy and diplomacy.

    Sorry, antonomad, I've appointed myself your new Iron Man for his thread.
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    May 27, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Chainers saidIm confused, are you saying we should all be doing drugs? Don't some questions just answer themselves?



    OMG that made my day.... just think people. THINK before you say something lol
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    May 27, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Chainers saidIm confused, are you saying we should all be doing drugs? Don't some questions just answer themselves?

    I still don't think I could date someone who is a user in general just because I don't and we wouldn't have that in common. That's it, he wants you to date the biggest crack whore you can find.


    If you weren't showing prejudice toward users or ex users, he's not talking to you. If you show empathy and do not morally discount people, he's not talking to you. Your post is antagonizing. Don't plant the seeds of mutiny against an agent of empathy and diplomacy.

    Sorry, antonomad, I've appointed myself your new Iron Man for his thread.


    Im sorry GuiltyGear, I didnt mean to antagonize, I just dont see the point of this thread...
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    May 27, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    A subjective appraisal of people who like to get high, and documenting their experiences to legitimize their use does not impress me.

    If you use drugs for recreation, just acknowledge it. Making it into a spiritual calling or some divine connection is completely counter to the experience of doing drugs in our culture.

    That being said, we all use drugs in one form or another and just because the government decides some are "illegal" it doesn't make the people who use bad people or wrong.
  • SoDakGuy

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    May 27, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    Oh Barbie, you're adorkable.

    Chainers saidIm confused, are you saying we should all be doing drugs?

    Remember I said yes to the guy who was an ex user, but I still dont think I could date someone who is a user in general just because I dont and we wouldnt have that in common.


    I admit I used A LONG ASS TIME AGO. I don't miss it nor do I want to use again. I got bored and it costs too much $$. And I prefer to eat and workout as a habit than the other crap.

    You all know I'm a good guy and my advice is from experience. I don't sit at my computer all day everyday making Pentecostal judgements. I live life; I don't let life pass me by.

    So, if the person hasn't used in years, cool. If it's been only a few weeks or months, stay in the friend zone for the time being.
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    May 27, 2011 5:19 PM GMT
    adam228 saidA subjective appraisal of people who like to get high, and documenting their experiences to legitimize their use does not impress me.

    If you use drugs for recreation, just acknowledge it. Making it into a spiritual calling or some divine connection is completely counter to the experience of doing drugs in our culture.

    That being said, we all use drugs in one form or another and just because the government decides some are "illegal" it doesn't make the people who use bad people or wrong.


    Nor does it make the person undatable, especially if he is trying to stop using drugs.

    That being said, I dont think any drug user that starts to abuse is very attractive. My brother abuses pot (yes, you can abuse weed guys) and it is ruining his career. Whether its weed, alcohol, or meth, its all bad.
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    May 27, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    Yeah, Drug use is just an attribute.. something you have to decide if you want to accept, live with it (neutral) or reject it.

    Drug abuse is more of an issue about pathology and its pretty much a valence issue that no one wants to be involved with someone who is abusing, has a psychotic disorder etc., unless they share some equal or similar trait.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with doing drugs, but I think that its silly to kid yourself that its something more than trying to reward your brain and feel euphoric.

    I think I would have to understand a persons motives for using drugs before I considered being in a relationship with them. The fact of the matter is that drug use is correlated to a lot of negative behavior and other pathologies that I would not find attractive icon_razz.gif


  • alphatop

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    May 28, 2011 1:50 AM GMT
    Live and let live, that's all I'm sayin'.....
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    May 28, 2011 2:02 AM GMT

    Ex cons and ex users are hot anyway; their bodies are like a map with a story about descent and redemption to tell. Although ex anything is hot: ex Navy, ex Police, ex boyfriendicon_smile.gif. It's all good.

  • HndsmKansan

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    May 28, 2011 2:04 AM GMT
    I think I'm a flexible and grounded person. If they guy is using now, we wouldn't be involved.. .if he was an ex-user, thats a different story. It would all be about how he lives his life now.
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    May 28, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Ex cons and ex users are hot anyway; there bodies are like a map with a story about descent and redemption to tell. Although ex anything is hot: ex Navy, ex Police, ex boyfriendicon_smile.gif. It's all good.



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  • awm55

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    May 28, 2011 2:24 AM GMT
    It would not only depend on whether he had not used for a pretty substantial amount of time, but also who is friends where and what his interests are. If you are an ex meth addict but still hangs out with meth heads who are into the hard core gay party scene then its not going to happen. Kicking a drug habit is more complicated than just giving up the drug.
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    May 28, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Ex cons and ex users are hot anyway; their bodies are like a map with a story about descent and redemption to tell. Although ex anything is hot: ex Navy, ex Police, ex boyfriendicon_smile.gif. It's all good.



    like ex-rapist, ex-pedofile, ex-murderer,

    all sexy :-)
  • alphatop

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    May 28, 2011 4:54 AM GMT
    Chainers said
    GuiltyGear said
    Ex cons and ex users are hot anyway; their bodies are like a map with a story about descent and redemption to tell. Although ex anything is hot: ex Navy, ex Police, ex boyfriendicon_smile.gif. It's all good.



    like ex-rapist, ex-pedofile, ex-murderer,

    all sexy :-)


    How can you be ex-murderer???Or ex-rapist? That's just impossibleicon_rolleyes.gificon_confused.gifIt's not like you can quit raping or killing people. Once is enought for a lifetime (and bad karma ).
  • alphatop

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    May 28, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI would not date a current user. A person's "energy" really gets out of control from drug use. Dating a previous user is doubtful, and that could only be determined on a case by case basis.


    Would you date me? I am ex-user.
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    May 31, 2011 7:27 AM GMT
    Chainers said
    GuiltyGear said
    Ex cons and ex users are hot anyway; their bodies are like a map with a story about descent and redemption to tell. Although ex anything is hot: ex Navy, ex Police, ex boyfriendicon_smile.gif. It's all good.



    like ex-rapist, ex-pedofile, ex-murderer,

    all sexy :-)


    Stop being a cunt. By order.

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    May 31, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    Chainers said
    GuiltyGear said
    Ex cons and ex users are hot anyway; their bodies are like a map with a story about descent and redemption to tell. Although ex anything is hot: ex Navy, ex Police, ex boyfriendicon_smile.gif. It's all good.



    like ex-rapist, ex-pedofile, ex-murderer,

    all sexy :-)


    Stop being a cunt. By order.

    ShutUpBitch.jpg


    Ouch, domestic abuse!