Time @ gym

  • james716

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    May 27, 2011 3:47 PM GMT
    So I see my PT 3x per week for an hour each time. I definitely see results and appreciate his help.

    My problem is that the hour seems to go by too quickly. Don't get me wrong, I definitely feel like my ass was kicked, but I sorta feel like I can do another hour.

    Is a 2 hour workout too much? I'm up for renewal in 4-6 weeks I think, should I ask to double my time? Money isn't an issue, I just don't know if 2 hours is only something the guys in magazines do (I'm not interested in being big. I'm lean and happy)
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    May 27, 2011 4:23 PM GMT
    My opinion: I don't think it's necessary to work yourself to complete exhaustion every day. An hour should be enough time if you're working out correctly. If anything, add a couple of days of cardio-only workouts or some other kind of supporting working (core, yoga, etc.).

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    May 27, 2011 4:26 PM GMT
    More isn't better actually. 60 to 90 minutes should be anyone's target lifting time at the gym for any one session, even body builders. If you feel like you can go longer, try doing a light cardio earlier in the day. Most of the point of lifting is to promote the release of anabolic steroids, which happens after 30 min to an hour depending on the intensity. Muscle damage is part of it, but shouldn't be the focus of your sessions, so longer doesn't really help build anymore.
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    May 27, 2011 4:32 PM GMT
    A quality 60 mins beats a poor 90-120. You're getting good results and paying him so ask him what he thinks.
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    May 27, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    No more than an hour for me with Kettlebells. More like 45 minutes.

    Add in some dips, pull-ups and incline (feet way up) push-ups...

    ... that will wear me out good for the next day.
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    May 27, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
    It depends on how you're being paced, and what you're doing.

    There is a law of diminishing returns, that's for certain, and an effective workout can easily be accomplished inside of 90 minutes, unless you or your trainer are yacking away and socializing, at which point you need to reign him in or be quiet and do the work.

    Once in a while, two hours (max) might be a grueling compound day, but every day...you're not going to grow or reach goals. You're going to burn out.
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    May 27, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    Maybe you could talk to your trainer and see what he or she thinks. Maybe try 2 hours on a temporary basis and see how things go. Personally, I've heard weight training routines that go over an hour can yield less results than intense, shorter (hour or less) workouts. But feel free to experiment and see what works for you.
  • james716

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    May 27, 2011 5:05 PM GMT
    Thx guys. I'm seeing results, and feeling it with 1 hour. It's just that I was watching Arnolds Biography the other day and he was talking about being in the gym 4-6 hours daily and I was feeling a bit envious.

    Think the better way to go if I want more time is to do every other day rather than just 3x per week? Gives me an extra hour every 2 weeks that way without losing my recovery day or doing more than I can handle.
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    May 27, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    james716 saidThx guys. I'm seeing results, and feeling it with 1 hour. It's just that I was watching Arnolds Biography the other day and he was talking about being in the gym 4-6 hours daily and I was feeling a bit envious.

    Think the better way to go if I want more time is to do every other day rather than just 3x per week? Gives me an extra hour every 2 weeks that way without losing my recovery day or doing more than I can handle.


    Folks like Arnold (Scwharzenegger) are often a combination of freak genetics and chemical enhancement (not saying that all massive BB'ers juice, but just that it does play a factor in some of the largest of large).

    Methinks the routines the ultra-massive BBers do for multi-hours are not designed around the limitations of the typical human; and even in their case, I doubt that it is something they keep up constantly, or otherwise they'd run their bodies down.

    The competitive BBers usually train insanely for some periods, and then take longer breaks when out of their competition season.

    What I find that has been working for me and my goals (weight loss/strength gains) is a workout for an hour every second day (net schedule: 3x a week) to give me max time for muscle recovery.

    It may not seem like I do much, but what I do do, has intensity.
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    May 27, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    You can do your workout in an hour and then hang around for another 2 or 3 socializing or helping etc.. then rightly say you spend 3-4 hrs a day there.
  • mybud

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    May 27, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
    Personally, I feel 2 hours is much too long...you run the risk of over training and injury and then your fucked...1 hour of hitting it hard will do it.. I lift 4 to 5 times a week.....I throw in running as my cardio...but I love running ....BUD
  • slimnmuscly

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    May 27, 2011 7:18 PM GMT
    Are you working out other days of the week besides the ones on which you see your trainer? If not, adding days, but keeping the workout times at an hour, might be a way to step things up without running into the law of diminishing returns.
  • rf_dal

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    May 27, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    If you just need something to burn money on, I'll give you my address. ;)
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    May 27, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    james716 saidThx guys. I'm seeing results, and feeling it with 1 hour. It's just that I was watching Arnolds Biography the other day and he was talking about being in the gym 4-6 hours daily and I was feeling a bit envious.


    Arnold Schwarzenegger was (is )nothing if not an exceptional showman, and a great master of psychological mind-games to defeat his opponents. 4-6 hours a day in the gym, but 4-6 hours working in the gym? Hyperbole! He was not a fool, and even with steroids and hgh, he'd be wasting away and wreaking havoc not 'blasting' his bi's into superstrata status. Hype. With statements like that he's doing nothing more than forcing the fools who thought they could beat him to go in and burn themselves into shrimp toast in an effort to follow suit. Total Arnold overstatement.... don't believe it.
  • suedeheadscot

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    May 27, 2011 8:09 PM GMT
    There's guys who work out and have a great body and only spend half an hour in the gym! I think you're ok dude!

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    May 27, 2011 8:21 PM GMT
    According to my trainer, after 50min of lifting you body will start producing catabolic hormones, that actually destroy muscle.

    I do 10min warmup + 50min weight lifting + 20min cardio, it takes me around 90min with my ab workout and stretching...
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    May 27, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    Maybe you just want the trainer... ;). I mean, I would want the trainers at my gym for 8 hours at a time but I can't afford their services (haha, services).

    That one tall white dude with the blonde hair, blue eyes, loves the Sox, the Hawks, the Bears (we would get along great), and has the sexiest longest arms I've seen in my life... aaaah. I think about him every day (and night) and I'm 100% sure he's straight (frat boy type straight). Wait, what was this thread about again? Summer films? Ah yes, I want to see The Hangover II
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    May 27, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    Do something fun and social like a sport on the side or something skill-oriented like swimming on the side.
    I get the whole "Wow, using my body is amazing!"-feeling but there are lots of things besides your gym time and sex that you could use it on.
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    May 27, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    I doubt you will find a personal trainer out there who would recommend that.
  • james716

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    May 28, 2011 1:55 AM GMT
    slimnmuscly saidAre you working out other days of the week besides the ones on which you see your trainer? If not, adding days, but keeping the workout times at an hour, might be a way to step things up without running into the law of diminishing returns.


    I see him 3x per week. I run 3x per week. And... for work I bike 40ish hours per week (a big old heavy 400 lb trike, but to be fair I'm coasting 80% of the time)

    So, ok, I hear you all... no need to add another hour. I just like lifting and was hoping to do it more but if it's at the expense of any of my gains then I'll pass.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 28, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    You are doing very good with the time that you have dedicated to building up your body. If you feel that you can do a little more than go for it but if you don't feel quite energetic to go more than an hour, than don't worry about it. Listen to your body.