Japanese Plan: All of Earth's energy could 'be supplied by lunar ring of solar panels'

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    May 28, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1390682/Plans-gigantic-lunar-ring-solar-panels-beam-energy-Earth-unveiled.html?ITO=1490

    It sounds like something out of science fiction - a huge swathe of the moon covered with solar panels to beam captured energy back to Earth.

    But plans to turn the moon into a gigantic mirrorball manned by robots to provide all the Earth's energy came a step closer to reality today when they were unveiled by Japanese scientists.

    The ambitious project would result in 13,000 terawatts of continuous solar energy being transmitted back to receiving stations on Earth, either by laser or microwave.
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    May 28, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    LOL cool, it sounds like a nice version of the death star in Star wars
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    May 28, 2011 9:50 PM GMT
    Cool. icon_cool.gif
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    May 28, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    It would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.
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    May 28, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    Robots on the moon sounds more kickass
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    May 28, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    Robots on the moon sounds more kickass
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    May 28, 2011 10:37 PM GMT
    Obi Wan: Thats no moon. Its a space station!
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    May 28, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
    pursuits24 saidObi Wan: Thats no moon. Its a space station!


    Yes!
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    May 28, 2011 10:53 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.
    And think of that energy being available ONLY when the sun is up, and when it's not too cloudy. Also think of the eye sore it would make in an otherwise pristine dessert landscape.

    Now think of having solar energy available 24/7.

    I think you might want to rethink your thought. icon_wink.gif
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    May 28, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.
    And think of that energy being available ONLY when the sun is up, and when it's not too cloudy. Also think of the eye sore it would make in an otherwise pristine dessert landscape.

    Now think of having solar energy available 24/7.

    I think you might want to rethink your thought. icon_wink.gif

    Not sure is serious.
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    May 28, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    A dessert is an ecosystem full of living creatures that wouldn't survive under more humid conditions. Theres no room on this planet to place enough solar panels to make it our only or primary source of energy.
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    May 28, 2011 11:30 PM GMT
    pursuits24 saidObi Wan: Thats no moon. Its a space station!


    this allusion alone is more than enough reason for me to put you on my hotlist.

    *swoons*
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    May 29, 2011 1:59 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    A dessert is an ecosystem full of living creatures that wouldn't survive under more humid conditions. Theres no room on this planet to place enough solar panels to make it our only or primary source of energy.


    A dessert is a very yummy thing to my digestive system.
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    May 29, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
    judoguy saidLOL cool, it sounds like a nice version of the death star in Star wars

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    /Not our moon.
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    May 29, 2011 2:20 AM GMT
    Actually, as a partial solution, solar convection turbines would
    be quite effective without compromising desert habitats the same way thousands of square kilometres of photovoltaic panel farms or reflector panels in a solar concentrator boiler matrix would.

    The best way to picture it would be as an extremely large scale greenhouse enclosure with vents at the periphery and with the roof gradually rising as one moves to the centre of the enclosure.

    At the centre is a large tower that would channel the convection current raised by the desert heating up during the day, with turbines driven by the convection current rising up the central tower shaft.

    The reverse process occurs at night, with downdrafts driving the turbines in the opposite direction as cooler night air falls down the shaft.

    Naturally, we need nit cover ery square inch of desert with convection turbines, PV farms or solar concentrators.

    The oceans are vast areas receiving untold terawatts of solar energy, and disused naval and shipping fleet vessels could be used to mount floating solar collection arrays.

    Gigantic helium dirigibles coated with PV sensitive materials at extreme high altitudes piloted by AI in the jetstream could remain in daylight and be
    mobile so as not to cast adverse shadows in any one place for too long.

    Any and all of these could be stopgap measures while considering how to turn the moon into giant PV disco ball ;)
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    May 29, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    Robots on the moon sounds more kickass


    PLus all that space takes more habitat from wildlife (yes, even deserts have wildlife icon_razz.gif )
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    May 29, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    DCEric said
    judoguy saidLOL cool, it sounds like a nice version of the death star in Star wars

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    /Not our moon.

    Ha! George Lucas is so unoriginal.
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    May 29, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    DCEric said
    judoguy saidLOL cool, it sounds like a nice version of the death star in Star wars

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    /Not our moon.


    Thats Saturn's moon Iapetus.. its theorised to be an ancient (pre-earth) artificial body due to its unorthodox orbit and perfectly symmetrical structures
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    May 29, 2011 3:22 AM GMT
    http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/deathmoonspheres.html

    http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm

    Hmmm, just realised this and its significance with the Jewish creator-god, which is actually identified with the roman god Saturn (the sabbath is the saturday).. and this object is a Saturnal moon...

    So according to Genesis, life on earth was created by Saturn... eerie
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    May 29, 2011 3:29 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    A dessert is an ecosystem full of living creatures that wouldn't survive under more humid conditions. Theres no room on this planet to place enough solar panels to make it our only or primary source of energy.

    +.75

    Though if everyone had solar panels on their roofs, and batteries in their basement it'd go a long way to reduce our consuption of fossil fuels.

    If a cloud covered Germany can get a third of it's electricity from solar panels on the roofs of private homes, we can too! without relying on ruining deserts and loss through transmission lines.
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    May 29, 2011 4:04 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    Mil8 saidIt would make far more sense fully to exploit solar energy on Earth first! Think about all those deserts that could be exploited as solar farms.


    A dessert is an ecosystem full of living creatures that wouldn't survive under more humid conditions. Theres no room on this planet to place enough solar panels to make it our only or primary source of energy.


    The primary advantage I'm pretty sure is is that the moon has no atmosphere, which results in a much higher yield of solar power per sq. foot.
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    May 29, 2011 4:08 AM GMT
    DCEric said
    judoguy saidLOL cool, it sounds like a nice version of the death star in Star wars

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    /Not our moon.

    Nice.
    (Greenhopper, you're starting to really worry me though buddy. :cryicon_smile.gif
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    May 29, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
    I've got three vague issues with the energy transfer though. First, space trash interfering with either microwaves or lasers. Second, the general public being deathly afraid of rogue microwaves. Third if there's a giant laser involved I'll be tempted to use it to conquer stuff, completely inevitable I'm afraid.
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    May 29, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
    Sounds kinda loony (pun) to me. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 29, 2011 6:47 AM GMT
    hahaha, nerds unite.



    i actually wish for a little nerd-ness ...