The Most Dangerous Cities in America

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    May 29, 2011 11:32 AM GMT
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    Our list is dominated by towns like Detroit, New Haven, and Baltimore. Parts of these cities are fortresses of crime. Much of the violent crime in Detroit is committed in the old Palmer Avenue section of the city, which is far from the shiny skyscrapers where GM has its headquarters. Baltimore's Front Street neighborhood is a world away from the new office towers of companies like financial giant T Rowe Price on Pratt Street. The crime-plagued Lamar Avenue section of Memphis is also far from the city's ritzy neighborhoods. [...]

    1. Flint, Mich.

    Population: 109,245
    Violent Crime Per 1,000: 22
    2010 Murders: 53
    Median Income: $27,049 (46.1% below national average)
    Unemployment Rate: 11.8% (2.8% above national average)

    The number of violent crimes committed in Flint increased for all categories considered for this list between 2009 and 2010. Perhaps most notably, the number of murders in the city increased from 36 to 53. This moves the city from having the seventh highest rate of homicide to the second highest. The number of aggravated assaults increased from 1,529 to 1,579, a rate of 14.6 assaults per 1,000 residents, placing the city in the No. 1 rank for rate of assaults. Flint police chief Alvern Lock stated late last year that he believed the city's violence stemmed from drugs and gangs. Flint has a relatively small median income of about $27,000 per household. The city also has a poverty rate of 36.2%.


    2. Detroit

    Population: 899,447
    Violent Crime Per 1,000: 18.9
    2010 Murders: 310
    Median Income: $26,098 (48% below national average)
    Unemployment Rate: 12.7% (3.7% above national average)

    The city crippled the most in America's post-industrial era is almost certainly Detroit. The Motor City has suffered from high rates of unemployment, homelessness, and crime. The city has one of the ten highest rates for three of the four types of violent crime identified by the FBI. Detroit has the sixth highest murder rate, the fifth highest robbery rate, and the second highest rate of aggravated assault. In 2005, a major reorganization of the city's police department took place after a federal investigation identified inefficiencies within the system. According to an article in The United Press, opponents of Detroit Mayor David Bing called for further intervention by the Justice Department in several shootings that occurred last year.


    3. St. Louis

    Population: 355,151
    Violent Crime Per 1,000: 17.5
    2010 Murders: 144
    Median Income: $34,801 (30.7% below national average)
    Unemployment Rate: 9.3% (0.3% above national average)

    Violent crime in St. Louis fell dramatically between 2009 and 2010, and has decreased since 2007. Despite this, crime rates remain extremely high compared with other cities. In 2010, the city's murder rate and rate of aggravated assault were each the third worst in the country. With regards to both violent and nonviolent crime, St. Louis was rated the most dangerous city based on FBI data released six months ago. As of December 2010, the murder rate in St. Louis was 6.3 times that of the state of Missouri. The city's gunshot murder rate for residents between 10 to 19 years old is also the second highest in the country, behind only New Orleans, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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    May 29, 2011 12:47 PM GMT
    I thought it was New York or Newark, NJ
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    May 29, 2011 1:21 PM GMT
    All cities are dangerous [small towns too]. There are places you shouldn't go if you are not familiar with the city. At the same time, the most dangerous cities can provide the most enjoyable experiences. Know where not to go before you go.
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    May 29, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidhttp://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112804/most-dangerous-cities-247

    Our list is dominated by towns like Detroit, New Haven, and Baltimore. Parts of these cities are fortresses of crime.

    . . .

    3. St. Louis

    Population: 355,151
    Violent Crime Per 1,000: 17.5
    2010 Murders: 144
    Median Income: $34,801 (30.7% below national average)
    Unemployment Rate: 9.3% (0.3% above national average)

    Violent crime in St. Louis fell dramatically between 2009 and 2010, and has decreased since 2007. Despite this, crime rates remain extremely high compared with other cities. In 2010, the city's murder rate and rate of aggravated assault were each the third worst in the country. With regards to both violent and nonviolent crime, St. Louis was rated the most dangerous city based on FBI data released six months ago. As of December 2010, the murder rate in St. Louis was 6.3 times that of the state of Missouri. The city's gunshot murder rate for residents between 10 to 19 years old is also the second highest in the country, behind only New Orleans, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


    I'll disagree with this as a demographics issue, not a crime issue. St Louis city covers a very small portion of the entire metro area, approximately 15% without looking it up. Chicago is closer to 50%. Cities such as Phoenix, where suburban tracts make up much of the city, are considerably higher still. In the St Louis metro area, there are suburban neighborhoods that would be closer to inner-city in many metro areas.

    Granted, about a third of the city of St Louis is a war zone, but unless you live there, you probably have absolutely no legitimate reason to be there, meaning 'innocent tourists' will not be gunned down here. Sucks ass for the residents though, every metro has 'em. The discussion of what to do about that is a separate topic. But, much of the rest of St Louis is quite safe. Many parts (most?) of the city, I feel comfortable walking in 24 hours a day. Better to look at overall metro crime rates and/or individual neighborhood crime rates.

    I am not a huge St Louis backer always coming to its defense. I cannot wait to move the day I am done here, but it has nothing to do with the crime rate. St Louis is an amazing, affordable, underrated, beautiful, historical, did I say affordable, area. 5 years has been enough. Perfect for a long weekend, not reccomending that anyone move here.
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    May 29, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    America, no were is safe, not even for a straight white guy.
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    May 29, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
    True_blue_aussie saidAmerica, no were is safe, not even for a straight white guy.


    I'll agree with that to the sense that no place on the world is 100% safe. I'll disagree that there are no places in the US that are as equally, or nearly equally as safe as other comparable locales around the world.
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    May 29, 2011 9:23 PM GMT
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    May 29, 2011 11:43 PM GMT
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    May 30, 2011 6:38 AM GMT
    ILmarathonrunner said
    True_blue_aussie saidAmerica, no were is safe, not even for a straight white guy.


    I'll agree with that to the sense that no place on the world is 100% safe. I'll disagree that there are no places in the US that are as equally, or nearly equally as safe as other comparable locales around the world.


    Now there are parts of my city I would not be found dead walking around at night time, it's just not safe, as many Indian students have found out, living in the west. I am lucky were I live in the east, never look over my shoulder, and I have also been lucky in America, but I am also more wise about were I walk around there on my own even more so. One moment you are in an affluent part of the city then you turn a corner, not so much like that in my city at all.

    Would hate to be in Tijuana at night on my own, even the day time.
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    May 30, 2011 6:56 AM GMT
    Thank you for explaining this ILMarathon. It annoys me to no end every time these "statistics" are published. STL has its problems but taking it's rotten core out of 300,000 from the metro area of 2.7 million and comparing it is nonsense. STL very unwisely divorced itself from the county long ago and has suffered in the arbitrary grading ever since.
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    May 30, 2011 8:06 AM GMT
    Turin saidI thought it was New York or Newark, NJ


    Um, maybe crappy parts of Brooklyn and the Bronx...but haven't you been to Manhattan since 1989?
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    May 30, 2011 9:03 AM GMT
    I think that Mexico City and Bogota are the most dangerous cities in America's.
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    May 30, 2011 9:48 AM GMT
    Well now I know why when I went to Yale and was like yeah I walked the few miles from the train station people were like "and you lived, wow" icon_razz.gif
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    ILmarathonrunner said
    riddler78 saidhttp://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112804/most-dangerous-cities-247

    Our list is dominated by towns like Detroit, New Haven, and Baltimore. Parts of these cities are fortresses of crime.

    . . .

    3. St. Louis

    Population: 355,151
    Violent Crime Per 1,000: 17.5
    2010 Murders: 144
    Median Income: $34,801 (30.7% below national average)
    Unemployment Rate: 9.3% (0.3% above national average)

    Violent crime in St. Louis fell dramatically between 2009 and 2010, and has decreased since 2007. Despite this, crime rates remain extremely high compared with other cities. In 2010, the city's murder rate and rate of aggravated assault were each the third worst in the country. With regards to both violent and nonviolent crime, St. Louis was rated the most dangerous city based on FBI data released six months ago. As of December 2010, the murder rate in St. Louis was 6.3 times that of the state of Missouri. The city's gunshot murder rate for residents between 10 to 19 years old is also the second highest in the country, behind only New Orleans, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


    I'll disagree with this as a demographics issue, not a crime issue. St Louis city covers a very small portion of the entire metro area, approximately 15% without looking it up. Chicago is closer to 50%. Cities such as Phoenix, where suburban tracts make up much of the city, are considerably higher still. In the St Louis metro area, there are suburban neighborhoods that would be closer to inner-city in many metro areas.

    Granted, about a third of the city of St Louis is a war zone, but unless you live there, you probably have absolutely no legitimate reason to be there, meaning 'innocent tourists' will not be gunned down here. Sucks ass for the residents though, every metro has 'em. The discussion of what to do about that is a separate topic. But, much of the rest of St Louis is quite safe. Many parts (most?) of the city, I feel comfortable walking in 24 hours a day. Better to look at overall metro crime rates and/or individual neighborhood crime rates.

    I am not a huge St Louis backer always coming to its defense. I cannot wait to move the day I am done here, but it has nothing to do with the crime rate. St Louis is an amazing, affordable, underrated, beautiful, historical, did I say affordable, area. 5 years has been enough. Perfect for a long weekend, not reccomending that anyone move here.


    STL really is a war zone, my dad's side is from there. I remember driving through East St. Louis, IL with my grandparents and thinking the place looked like Bosnia. Halfway through we stopped at a traffic light and my grandma started freaking out and crying hysterically. She was so terrified to simply be stationary inside the car for 30 seconds in that city. I remember her telling me about when they opened a Walmart in East STL, and it was supposed to be the first large employer (over 50 employees) the city had seen in 30 years. Unreal. THAT is the worst part of STL.

    Other areas like anywhere near WashU or Delmar in UCity or the Central West End has definitely picked up and gotten gentrified. STL has some genuinely awesome nightlife around the jazz clubs and in Soulard. Honestly though, I believe my dad when he says it's a "good place to be from".
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    Jun 01, 2011 4:49 AM GMT
    I always thought Newark, NJ was first on that list icon_confused.gif
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    davidp7 said
    ILmarathonrunner said
    riddler78 saidhttp://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112804/most-dangerous-cities-247

    Our list is dominated by towns like Detroit, New Haven, and Baltimore. Parts of these cities are fortresses of crime.

    . . .

    3. St. Louis

    Population: 355,151
    Violent Crime Per 1,000: 17.5
    2010 Murders: 144
    Median Income: $34,801 (30.7% below national average)
    Unemployment Rate: 9.3% (0.3% above national average)

    Violent crime in St. Louis fell dramatically between 2009 and 2010, and has decreased since 2007. Despite this, crime rates remain extremely high compared with other cities. In 2010, the city's murder rate and rate of aggravated assault were each the third worst in the country. With regards to both violent and nonviolent crime, St. Louis was rated the most dangerous city based on FBI data released six months ago. As of December 2010, the murder rate in St. Louis was 6.3 times that of the state of Missouri. The city's gunshot murder rate for residents between 10 to 19 years old is also the second highest in the country, behind only New Orleans, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


    I'll disagree with this as a demographics issue, not a crime issue. St Louis city covers a very small portion of the entire metro area, approximately 15% without looking it up. Chicago is closer to 50%. Cities such as Phoenix, where suburban tracts make up much of the city, are considerably higher still. In the St Louis metro area, there are suburban neighborhoods that would be closer to inner-city in many metro areas.

    Granted, about a third of the city of St Louis is a war zone, but unless you live there, you probably have absolutely no legitimate reason to be there, meaning 'innocent tourists' will not be gunned down here. Sucks ass for the residents though, every metro has 'em. The discussion of what to do about that is a separate topic. But, much of the rest of St Louis is quite safe. Many parts (most?) of the city, I feel comfortable walking in 24 hours a day. Better to look at overall metro crime rates and/or individual neighborhood crime rates.

    I am not a huge St Louis backer always coming to its defense. I cannot wait to move the day I am done here, but it has nothing to do with the crime rate. St Louis is an amazing, affordable, underrated, beautiful, historical, did I say affordable, area. 5 years has been enough. Perfect for a long weekend, not reccomending that anyone move here.


    STL really is a war zone, my dad's side is from there. I remember driving through East St. Louis, IL with my grandparents and thinking the place looked like Bosnia. Halfway through we stopped at a traffic light and my grandma started freaking out and crying hysterically. She was so terrified to simply be stationary inside the car for 30 seconds in that city. I remember her telling me about when they opened a Walmart in East STL, and it was supposed to be the first large employer (over 50 employees) the city had seen in 30 years. Unreal. THAT is the worst part of STL.

    Other areas like anywhere near WashU or Delmar in UCity or the Central West End has definitely picked up and gotten gentrified. STL has some genuinely awesome nightlife around the jazz clubs and in Soulard. Honestly though, I believe my dad when he says it's a "good place to be from".


    Since I grew up in the 708 and the 618, first handily I can say that I've seen more violence, almost ten times as much, committed elsewhere but just go unreported since there's no fatality!