TAKE ACTION: No Applause for Netanyahu

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    May 30, 2011 4:31 AM GMT
    Tell Congress no standing ovations for Bibi Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu addressing Congress

    Live outside of the U.S.? Send President Obama a message.

    Dear Supporter,

    I was stunned to see that our entire U.S. Congress gave Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu 29 standing ovations on Tuesday. Twenty-nine. Unbelievable, given what his speech contained.

    The speech that Netanyahu gave that day will go down in history as an extraordinary embarrassment to Americans and Israelis alike. Read on to find out what he said and why we cannot let it go unanswered.

    To put it simply, Netanyahu proved yet again that he prefers settlement expansion and Jewish domination of Palestinians to any kind of true peace agreement that would benefit both peoples. He claimed that Israel isn’t occupying anyone—ignoring nearly 44 years of increasingly brutal Israeli control over the lives of millions of Palestinians.

    He stated that Israel had no need for American military assistance—ignoring the $3 billion in military equipment and aid the U.S. provides Israel each year. He said Israel supports the desire of Arab peoples to live free—saying nothing about the ongoing Israeli shootings and arrests of Palestinians who nonviolently protest for their right to be free. (1)What makes this so outrageous is that Netanyahu’s speech found a shockingly sympathetic audience in the U.S. Congress while people like you and me could only watch in disbelief.

    I’ve had it. I cannot stand by and watch my member of Congress applaud this man and his litany of distortions, myths and outright fabrications. Please, I urge you to join me in writing your US Representative to say, “How could you? Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has shown repeatedly that he is not interested in a viable future for either Palestinians or Israelis and you rewarded him with 29 standing ovations as the world watched.
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    May 30, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
    Here’s a taste of what Netanyahu said, and Jewish Voice for Peace’s debunking of it:

    “You don’t need to send American troops to Israel, we defend ourselves.“

    Not true. Israel does not defend itself. Israel is historically the number one recipient of US foreign aid. The US gives Israel a whopping $3 billion a year in aid and military equipment, most of which is used to defend Israel’s illegal occupation.

    “In Judea and Samaria, the Jewish people are not occupiers.” (Raucous standing ovation.)

    Not True. Israel’s nearly 44-year long occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal according to international law. The more than 500,000 Jewish Israelis who have been moved into the West Bank and East Jerusalem since 1967 are settlers who occupy Palestinian land – much of it privately owned by Palestinians and stolen by Jews the rest of it expropriated by the Israeli state – all taken for exclusive Jewish use. (2) This is occupation.


    Moreover, “Judea and Samaria” are the biblical terms for that piece of land. Is Bibi suggesting a state based not on secular law but on the Bible? A Jewish theocracy? Is this the Israel that our Congress promotes?

    “You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it.”

    Not true. Within Israel, the 20% of Israeli citizens who are Palestinian do have the right to vote and run for office. But they are victims of systematic housing, workplace and resource discrimination. For example, 93% of Israeli land is reserved for Jews.(3) In the West Bank, more than 2 million Palestinians live under Israeli occupation—that is, their lives are ruled by Israeli military law, while their Jewish settler neighbors are subject to Israeli civil law. Another 1.5 million Gazans live under siege by the Israeli military. Is this democracy?

    “Jerusalem must never again be divided. Jerusalem must remain the united capital of Israel.”

    Not true. The original UN charter that created Israel, as still recognized by the international community, identified Jerusalem as an internationalized zone that must be shared by all parties.

    I should say that I’m not really shocked by Netanyahu’s speech. But, I am shocked – shocked, stunned, discouraged, outraged – by the reaction of our elected officials. Clearly, they are not hearing from the growing number of people like you and me who are ready for a change. They won’t stop applauding until we speak up – and speak up loudly.

    Rae Abileah is with the advocacy group Code Pink and a member of Young, Jewish, and Proud, the young adult arm of Jewish Voice for Peace. She was physically attacked by some members of the Israel lobby group AIPAC, hospitalized with neck injuries and then arrested after she bravely shouted out the truth during Netanyahu's speech to Congress.(4) The night before, 5 protesters interrupted Netanyahu's AIPAC speech and were similarly assaulted.
    Not all of us can put our bodies on the line the way Rae and so many others have. But we can all take action today, by telling our elected officials they must represent us, not the interests of one of the most right-wing and intransigent governments in Israeli history.

    If you live outside of the United States, please write to President Obama to tell him how you feel this has further damaged the United States' standing in the eyes of the world.
    Thank you,
    Cecilie Surasky, Deputy Director

    Jewish Voice for Peace
    P.S. Two of the many Jewish Voice for Peace members in Washington this week were interviewed about AIPAC counter-protests this week. Seventeen year-old Hanna King was on Al Jazeera and Jesse Bacon was on National Public Radio.

    References:

    (1) Jewish Voice for Peace, "Clouds over freedom in the West Bank."

    (2) Btselem, "Taking Control of the Land in the West Bank."

    (3) Adalah, "Historical Background."

    (4) CNN, In The Arena, "Why Rae Abileah says she disrupted Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday."

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    May 30, 2011 4:54 AM GMT
    A great man. It's amost as good as Cheney and Reagan rolled into one.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/05/29/obama_the_weak_110029.html
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    May 30, 2011 5:40 AM GMT
    I like Bibi too -- and his voice is sexy icon_wink.gif
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    May 30, 2011 5:45 AM GMT
    As calm cool and collected as Dick Cheney with the charisma of Ronald Reagan. Too bad he wasn’t born here or we’d have our candidate.
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    May 30, 2011 9:25 AM GMT
    OldGeezer saidAs calm cool and collected as Dick Cheney with the charisma of Ronald Reagan. Too bad he wasn’t born here or we’d have our candidate.


    A lot of conservatives seem to be saying that......

    I love my Reagan for President T/shirt, I wear it with such pride; what a guy. Dear God could we please have him back, the world needs him.
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    May 30, 2011 9:34 AM GMT
    OldGeezer saidAs calm cool and collected as Dick Cheney with the charisma of Ronald Reagan. Too bad he wasn’t born here or we’d have our candidate.


    Dude what in the world are you talking about?? Netanyahu is not even close like Dick Cheney and Ronald Reagan. He is a war criminal.

    Koss emak ya iben sharmoota
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    May 30, 2011 10:29 AM GMT
    Netanyahu: 'America is a thing you can move very easily'
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkpoint-washington/2010/07/netanyahu_america_is_a_thing_y.html"I know what America is," Netanyahu told a group of terror victims, apparently not knowing his words were being recorded. "America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in their way."

    Netanyahu also bragged how he undercut the peace process when he was prime minister during the Clinton administration. "They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]," he said. "I said I would, but ... I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
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    May 30, 2011 11:54 AM GMT
    One can only hope that god favors bibi in the same way he favored Ariel Sharon.
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    May 30, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    KenetiketCT said
    OldGeezer saidAs calm cool and collected as Dick Cheney with the charisma of Ronald Reagan. Too bad he wasn’t born here or we’d have our candidate.


    Dude what in the world are you talking about?? Netanyahu is not even close like Dick Cheney and Ronald Reagan. He is a war criminal.

    Koss emak ya iben sharmoota


    Well, in reality just about every republican has been accused of that at one time or another.
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    May 30, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidOne can only hope that god favors bibi in the same way he favored Ariel Sharon.

    Very, very nice. Maybe we should all hope for cerebral hemorrhages or the like for all politicians we don't care for.
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    May 30, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
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    TigerTim saidOne can only hope that god favors bibi in the same way he favored Ariel Sharon.

    Very, very nice. Maybe we should all hope for cerebral hemorrhages or the like for all politicians we don't care for.


    And then some RJ folks wonder why I rail at the left like I do.
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    May 30, 2011 6:08 PM GMT
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    May 30, 2011 11:47 PM GMT
    The reason Netanyahu gets standing ovations is that he's a gifted speaker and a great leader.

    As some may know he went to high school in the US (near Philadelphia) and has a degree from MIT. His job, protecting Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East and our best ally, is a daunting one.

    What a study in contrast when Netanyahu stands next to the Fraud in the White House, who betrayed Israel, as no previous occupant of the Oval Office has done, on the day before Netanyahu's visit.












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    May 30, 2011 11:58 PM GMT
    OldGeezer said
    socalfitness said
    TigerTim saidOne can only hope that god favors bibi in the same way he favored Ariel Sharon.

    Very, very nice. Maybe we should all hope for cerebral hemorrhages or the like for all politicians we don't care for.


    And then some RJ folks wonder why I rail at the left like I do.




    Nobody wonders.
    Believe me, we all know that you're a racist, radical, right wing Republican nut case.
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    May 31, 2011 1:21 AM GMT
    Webster666 said
    OldGeezer said
    socalfitness said
    TigerTim saidOne can only hope that god favors bibi in the same way he favored Ariel Sharon.

    Very, very nice. Maybe we should all hope for cerebral hemorrhages or the like for all politicians we don't care for.


    And then some RJ folks wonder why I rail at the left like I do.




    Nobody wonders.
    Believe me, we all know that you're a racist, radical, right wing Republican nut case.


    Ahhhh Yeah !!!!! Disagree with the left and we're a racist. Honey, did anyone ever clue you in to the fact that you lefties aren't gettin much mileage out of that one anymore?

    And humour us please and tell us why you HATE Netanyahu and why you can't stand the dirty filthy money grubbin Jews.
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    May 31, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
    jockfever saidThe reason Netanyahu gets standing ovations is that he's a gifted speaker and a great leader.

    As some may know he went to high school in the US (near Philadelphia) and has a degree from MIT. His job, protecting Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East and our best ally, is a daunting one.

    What a study in contrast when Netanyahu stands next to the Fraud in the White House, who betrayed Israel, as no previous occupant of the Oval Office has done, on the day before Netanyahu's visit.



    big +1
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    May 31, 2011 3:34 AM GMT
    Netanyahu> You don’t need to send American troops to Israel, we defend ourselves.

    KenetiketCT spam> Israel does not defend itself. Israel is historically the number one recipient of US foreign aid.

    Note the sleight of hand? Netanyahu spoke of "troops".
    As usual, the spam propagandists have to lie in order to support their claim that the other side is lying.

    Netanyahu> In Judea and Samaria, the Jewish people are not occupiers.” (Raucous standing ovation.)

    KenetiketCT> Israel’s nearly 44-year long occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal according to international law.

    Given that the usual suspects have made this claim at least 10 times this month alone, isn't it about time for someone to cite that "law"?


    KenetiketCT spam> The more than 500,000 Jewish Israelis who have been moved into the West Bank and East Jerusalem since 1967 are settlers who occupy Palestinian land – much of it privately owned by Palestinians and stolen by Jews the rest of it expropriated by the Israeli state – all taken for exclusive Jewish use. This is occupation.

    No one has "moved" them.
    Most do not "occupy" "Palestinian land" (absent permanent borderes, that claim is absurd).
    Let alone "privately owned" land or "stolen".
    It's not even true that these are for "exclusive Jewish use".
    See, for example:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Homa#History


    KenetiketCT spam> “Judea and Samaria” are the biblical terms for that piece of land. Is Bibi suggesting a state based not on secular law but on the Bible? A Jewish theocracy? Is this the Israel that our Congress promotes?

    ROTFL. These are the names these regions were known by for 3,000 years.
    Do you want to call them the "West Bank of Trans-Jordanian Palestine"?
    As they were known for a mere 19 years between 1948-1967.
    That is, the part of Mandate Palestine east of the Jordan River that is... west of the River.

    It's also funny seeing the usual suspects pretend that Israel (which is a secular democratic state) is a "theocracy" while overlooking that the PA Constitution enshries Muslim Sharia law as the supreme law of the land.


    Netanyahu> You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it.

    KenetiketCT's spam> Within Israel, the 20% of Israeli citizens who are Palestinian do have the right to vote and run for office. But they are victims of systematic housing, workplace and resource discrimination. For example, 93% of Israeli land is reserved for Jews.

    The "example" is completely false, as has been discussed previously.
    93% of the land cannot be privately owned, not by Jews or non-Jews.
    It is available, however, for long-term lease, including to non-Jews.
    (In fact, there was an "affirmative action" High Court ruling giving Arabs preference to some lands!)

    Israeli Arabs are full citizens with equal protection under the law.
    They not only form parties and run for office, but are represented in parliament.
    They have served as ministers in the ruling government coalition.
    And in the foreign office, including as ambassadors.
    They serve in the judiciary, including as justices on the High (supreme) Court.
    They even serve in the Israeli Defense Forces, achieving ranks as high as Generals.


    KenetiketCT's spam> In the West Bank, more than 2 million Palestinians live under Israeli occupation—that is, their lives are ruled by Israeli military law, while their Jewish settler neighbors are subject to Israeli civil law. Another 1.5 million Gazans live under siege by the Israeli military. Is this democracy?

    This has nothing to do with democracy.
    Let's not forget that it was Israel who introduced elections in the 1970s (to the PLO's opposition).

    Under the Oslo Agreement, these 3 million Palestinian Arabs live under the rule of the PA (and in, Gaza, following their coup, under Hamas).


    Netanyahu> Jerusalem must never again be divided. Jerusalem must remain the united capital of Israel.

    KenetiketCT's spam> The original UN charter that created Israel, as still recognized by the international community, identified Jerusalem as an internationalized zone that must be shared by all parties.

    That partition compromise didn't "create" Israel, not to mention that it was violently rejected by the Arab parties.
    Maybe you should have accepted that 64 years ago... but you didn't.
    Instead you started a war, gambled, and lost.
    And you've been whining for decades about this "injustice".
    As if there should be an insurance policy for those who start wars and lose.


    Look at what is happening here. President Obama has attempted to get peace talks started again.
    And the usual suspects are against that and, as usual, trying to demonize Netanyahu and Israel.
    Not in the cause of peace, but in an attempt to rationalize and justify, even to perpetuate, the war to destroy it.
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    May 31, 2011 4:02 AM GMT
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    May 31, 2011 8:01 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidIGNORANT/BRAINWASHED:

    OldGeezer, CuriousJockAZ, jockfever, Webster666 and Caesarea4.


    So that's how you counter anyone/everyone that you disagree with? And then you advertise it so that you hope everyone can see why you don't have an effective and or persuasive argument. And then you respond to them one last time before you block them so you can get the last word in. Living up to your reputation aren't you? Why don’t you act like a man instead of what you are?

    Pussy.
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    May 31, 2011 8:05 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidInteresting...



    Great posts sxydrkhair!
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    May 31, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    Unable t defend the previous lies (see post from May 30, 2011 11:34 PM EST above), samxr simply gives us:

    sxydrkhair> More lie...

    Yup, that's right. Let's refute the rest of their lies-for-the-cause:

    sxydrkhair> Netanyahu stated that in the Middle East, "Christians are persecuted, (but) Israel stands out. It is different." Congress applauded.
    Thousands of Palestinian Christians were barred from entering Jerusalem to visit Christian religious sites for Easter 2011.

    Millions of Christians worldwide are barred from entering the US (without Visas).
    Is this also "persecution"?

    No. This is not what Netanyahu was talking about.
    The fact of the matter is that the Christian population is decreasing in every mideast state (and the PA & Hamas territories).
    Except one. Israel.

    Once again we see that sxydrkhair hates Israel more than he loves or cares for his Christian brethren.


    sxydrkhair> He said, "of the 300 million Arabs (in the Middle East) less than one-half of one-percent are truly free, and they're all citizens of Israel." And Congress applauded.

    The statement is a lie. Lebanon is a democracy, where all are free. Jordan and Morocco are Constitutional Monarchies modeled after those practiced in Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Luxembourg, Monaco, Norway, Spain and Sweden.

    That they are "modeled" after western states doesn't mean the citizens (let alone those who aren't citizens) have legal protections or are free.

    Why don't you put your lie to the test:
    Draw a picture of Muhammad and walk down a street in London, Amsterdam, Copanhagen and Monaco.
    Then try this in east Beirut, Amman or Rabat.


    sxydrkhair> "Tehran subjugates Lebanon and Gaza." A blatant lie.
    Hamas accepts support from Tehran, and Tehran has provided support to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Members of Hezbollah are Shias, the majority of Lebanese are Sunnis and Christians. The Christians and Sunnis have always run Lebanon, still do, and always will. They are the majority.

    Please explain why Hizbullah has a veto in the Lebanese government.


    sxydrkhair> Jews, the Israelites, had sovereignty in Palestine from 1,020 to 586 B.C., 434 years, 2,597 years ago. It is impossible to find a serious historian that agrees that those 434 years convey land ownership to Jews for eternity. Others owned that land for the subsequent 2,597 years.

    See how they even have to lie about ancient history?
    Jews lost sovereignty to the foreign Babylonian empire which occupied the Jewish homeland in 586 B.C.E.
    But Jews were back to ruling themselves less than 50 years later.
    And contiued to do so (despite the invasions of some other foreign empires who occupied the region) until 70 C.E.

    Aside from the facts, two curiosities arise:

    A. If sxydrkhair truly believed that Palestinian Arabs descend from indigenous Jews, why would he be distorting what then would be his own history? (Guess he realizes this isn't, as the DNA evidence provided by his own sources proves, Still he continues to regurgitate what he knows is a lie in the hopes of confusing others and thus recruiting them for-the-cause.

    B. For someone who repeats "occupation" as often as he can, as if he's being paid for each utterance of this soundbite/slogan, isn't it odd that sxydrkhair isn't opposed to other occupations?


    sxydrkhair> When Israel declared statehood on May 14, 1948, Jews owned seven percent of the land of Palestine. Palestinians owned the other 93 percent.

    Really? This a 50th time?

    Fact: Jews owned 8.6% of the land.
    Resident Arabs owned 3.3%.
    Foreign Arabs owned 16.9%.
    The vast majority was not privately owned.


    sxydrkhair> Netanyahu said, "No distortion of history can deny the 4,000-year-old bond between the Jewish people and the Jewish land."
    Israelites entered the land of Canaan in about 1,400 B.C. If they wandered for 40 years after leaving Egypt before entering Canaan, they were still in Egypt 4,000 years ago. Congress applauded.

    There is no archeological or extra-biblical historical account of the Israelites being in Egypt.
    Not that this is even relevant; look how (as usual) sxydrkhair selectively culls what is useful from his source... and disregards what is not.
    If we are to base our beliefs on Genesis & Exodus, then not only were the Israelites present before sojourning in Egypt.
    But then this is the God-given land of the Jews.

    Even if you wish to ignore all that, would it really have made a difference had Netanyahu said 3,400 years instead of 4,000 years?
    No. this is just the usual and endless whining about anything and everything.


    sxydrkhair> "In 1947, the United Nations voted to partition the land into a Jewish state and an Arab state ... The Palestinians said no."
    That's a lie. The Arab nations on the borders of the new Israeli nation rejected the partition plan, UNGA 181. The Palestinians had no voice in the matter

    What Netanyahu said is correct.
    What you said is the lie.

    The Arabs of Palestine (not yet know as "Palestinians") were represented by the Arab High Committee.
    They had a voice and they said no.


    sxydrkhair> They," the Palestinians, "continue to perpetuate the fantasy that Israel will one day be flooded by the descendants of Palestinian refugees."
    Neither the Palestinians, nor any other serious Arab entity has demanded that Palestinian refugees must return to their former homes in what is now Israel.

    LOL. Both sxydrkhair and moreso KenetiketCT have said just that.
    Indeed, this appears as one of the formal objections of the PA to the Clinton Compromise Parameters.


    sxydrkhair> In March 2002, the Arab League offered a peace plan to recognize the State of Israel... Israel didn't respond.

    Let's first note that, in contradiction to the previous point, the "Saudi plan in-a-drawer" also called for the so-called "right of return" of refugees to Israel. And it made no a priori assurances that Israel meeting a long list of ransom demands would result in peace. Nonetheless Israel Presdent Katsav invited the Saudis to come to Jerusalem to negotiate and offered to travel to Riyadh. They never responded.


    sxydrkhair> "The vast majority of the 650,000 Israelis who live beyond the 1967 lines, reside in neighborhoods and suburbs of Jerusalem and greater Tel Aviv."
    Approximately 500,000 of them live in illegal settlements built on illegally occupied Palestinian territory in violation of article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention

    Read Article 2 of the same convention and you'll see why Article 49 doesn't apply (let alone your twisting of it).
    Nor, as discussed above, is it true that the Jewish villages are built on Arab land.


    sxydrkhair> "Jerusalem must remain the united capital of Israel." Congress applauded, because it didn't know any better.
    The [1947 UN partition] resolution declared Jerusalem an independent city, "corpus separatum," to be administered by the UN.

    As already covered, both the Arabs - inside and outside of Mandate Palestine - violently rejected that and started a war.
    The corpus separatum was thus never established and has been off the table now for more than 63 years.


    sxydrkhair> Jerusalem isn't the capital

    Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
    No amount of denial or lies will change this fact.


    sxyrkhair> "Israel will not negotiate with a Palestinian government backed by the Palestinian version of Al Qaeda," Netanyahu declared. Congress applauded.
    There is no Palestinian version of Al Qaeda.
    Hamas has declared itself a bitter enemy of Al Qaeda. In 2009, "after hours of fighting, Hamas' security forces were able to crush gunmen associated with al-Qaeda."

    Thanks for refuting your claim that there is no Palestinian Al Qaeda.
    Yes, AQ is Hamas' enemy... they way on mafia gang is the enemy of another.
    Let's not forget that Hamas just recently condemned the death of Osama bin Laden.


    sxydrkhair> Al Qaeda will not accept Hamas' refusal to introduce sharia law and estab
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    May 31, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair> Al Qaeda will not accept Hamas' refusal to introduce sharia law and establish an Islamic state.

    From the Hamas Covenant:
    law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.
    Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

    So once again we've seen that there is nothing samxr won't lie about, for-the-cause.
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    May 31, 2011 10:29 PM GMT
    Netanyahu is a terrorist who is head of state for a terrorist country that is blindly supported by the US. This vicious, vindictive man should be tried as a war criminal especially after that unjustified, violent attack on the freedom flotilla from Turkey that was delivering humanitarian aid to the oppressed Palestinian people of Gaza. I don't give a shit how great a speaking voice this sick minded bastard has he is still a war criminal period.
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    Jun 01, 2011 3:35 AM GMT
    It's funny, but not surprising, that unable to challenge any of my points in two posts above, pouncer simply adds to the laundry list of lies.

    pouncer> 'Absentee' Arab landowners were not 'foreigners'... but Palestinians living abroad.

    So the Sursock family, which came to Beirut from from Constantinople in 1714 (according to their own web site) is not a "foreign" owner?


    p> as if Arabs could be foreigners

    Here you have an insight into Arab xenophobia and racism.

    Arabs coming to "Palestine" from Amman, Baghdad, Beirut, Cairo, Damascus or from as far away as Rabat were not considered "foreigners".
    Indeed, non-Arab Muslims from Bosnia or Afghanistan were not considered "foreigners".
    But if Jews, even from those same places (let alone elsewhere in Europe) came to "Palestine", they were "foreigners".

    Which also exposes the lie that Jews in the Arab/Muslim world were "Arabs of Jewish faith".
    A claim the anti-Israel spam propagandists have also advanced regarding "Europeans of Jewish faith".
    All in the anti-semitic effort to deny Jewish ethnicity, peoplehood and nationality.

    Consider further: if Arabs from outside of "Palestine" were not considered "foreigners" or "immigrants", what merit can there be to the claim of a pre-existing Palestinian (Arab) nationalism at that time?