Why do so many people think being gay is a birth defect?

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    May 31, 2011 2:04 AM GMT
    Even for people who are accepting of gays they often will say they "feel bad" for us because it must be some sort of a birth defect or something mentally wrong... Why can't people just realize it's natural?
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    May 31, 2011 2:29 AM GMT
    Well; most people also think the Sun revolves around the Earth

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    May 31, 2011 2:30 AM GMT
    Or that the world is flat.
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    May 31, 2011 2:34 AM GMT
    That’s because it's not considered "normal" to them to so they need to manifest a reason that makes acceptance sounds much nobler than it is. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 31, 2011 3:16 AM GMT
    People people are stupid, and ya can't fix stupid.
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    May 31, 2011 3:28 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidPeople people are stupid, and ya can't fix stupid.



    this is why i like following paul on forums this hit is on the head.
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    May 31, 2011 3:28 AM GMT
    Most Americans believe in creationism, reject evolution because their churches tell them so, think that the Earth is something around 5000 years old and no more. No wonder the US has lost its position in science in the world.

    Their churches also tell them that gay is a choice that can be reversed, and that those who chose it are mentally unbalanced, and perverted child molesters. The good news is that the younger generation isn't buying this -- the bad news is that the Republican Party leadership has bought into it totally, and the counter influence of the younger vote has yet to be felt in US politics. So that anti-gay legislation continues to be passed (especially state constitutional amendments), that will take more than a simple majority in many cases to reverse in years to come.
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    May 31, 2011 3:45 AM GMT

    My dear mother would probably have a good response to this, God rest her soul.
    I once told her that guy I went to high school with had surgery a few years later to become a woman...ok, that was fine...she knew about that. But when I told her that several years AFTER the surgery, my friend became a bull-stomping dyke, it stopped her in her tracks.
    After she let it sink in for a moment or two, her response was: " Well, they must have removed something they shouldn't have....or maybe DIDN'T remove something they should. ....icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
    God love ya, mom...you always had the best answers....
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    May 31, 2011 3:50 AM GMT
    yay for gay fetuses.
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    May 31, 2011 3:52 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidPeople people are stupid, and ya can't fix stupid.



    this is why i like following paul on forums this hit is on the head.
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    And I usually catch [and edit] my "Freudian typos." This one totally blindsided me till now. icon_lol.gif
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    May 31, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    Ignorance. We all have it, some more than others.
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    May 31, 2011 3:59 AM GMT
    A mutation is a mutation just most ppl think of mutations as bad things...thus they see homosexuality as a birth defect and not just a mutation. Compare the fact that different hair colors and eye colors are also mutations and they begin to understand how it is not a good or bad thing but just is.
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    May 31, 2011 4:45 AM GMT
    We should feel sorry they have defective brains to think such thoughts.
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    May 31, 2011 4:53 AM GMT
    lol, it's like feeling sorry for you because of your eye colour. Like eye colour, it doesn't affect them in any way, so why does it matter?


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    May 31, 2011 4:57 AM GMT
    in some people, their is an inherant need to self identify themselves, by degrading someone else, they elevate themself.
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    May 31, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    Didn't realize my brain 'tripped'
  • Anto

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    May 31, 2011 5:10 AM GMT
    FunCollegeDude saidEven for people who are accepting of gays they often will say they "feel bad" for us because it must be some sort of a birth defect or something mentally wrong... Why can't people just realize it's natural?


    Defects are natural, mental problems too.
    Homosexuality is not normal, that doesn't mean it's not natural or something that is bad or which needs to be cured.
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    May 31, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
    Simon78928 saidA mutation is a mutation just most ppl think of mutations as bad things...thus they see homosexuality as a birth defect and not just a mutation. Compare the fact that different hair colors and eye colors are also mutations and they begin to understand how it is not a good or bad thing but just is.


    People who have some issue with homosexuality need reasons to try and justify it.
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    May 31, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidMost of you are defensive when the topic of "homosexuality as a birth defect" come up but then how many of you have admitted either on here or to yourselves that if you could choose to be straight - you would? What sort of message does that send to others?


    Okay, so here it is. If you asked me if I would choose to be straight? I would say yes. I'm not miserable with the fact that I'm gay, I have a great boyfriend with whom in love with, and I have very accepting and loving friends and family.
    But think of this, when people ask me that question... I don't think of them saying would you want to be straight? but rather them asking if I had the OPTION to not be ridiculed, harassed, denied basic human rights, looked as a defect and to not naturally have my own family. Then I do not understand why anyone would choose that life? It's idiotic and masochistic.
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    May 31, 2011 5:34 AM GMT
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    Raging_Bull said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidMost of you are defensive when the topic of "homosexuality as a birth defect" come up but then how many of you have admitted either on here or to yourselves that if you could choose to be straight - you would? What sort of message does that send to others?


    Okay, so here it is. If you asked me if I would choose to be straight? I would say yes. I'm not miserable with the fact that I'm gay, I have a great boyfriend with whom in love with, and I have very accepting and loving friends and family.
    But think of this, when people ask me that question... I don't think of them saying would you want to be straight? but rather them asking if I had the OPTION to not be ridiculed, harassed, denied basic human rights, looked as a defect and to not naturally have my own family. Then I do not understand why anyone would choose that life? It's idiotic and masochistic.


    And there's the difference, because if you asked me if I would choose to be str8, I would think about all the ridicule, the harassment, the denial of human rights, et al and think to myself, why would anyone choose to do that to me. It's idiotic and sadistic. My wish would not be for me to change. My wish would be for them to. That's an option too.


    If you asked most blacks in America during the civil rights era, if they had a choice would they be white? They'd prably say no, and for those that didn't thats why the black power movement was created. So I say to you all GAY POWER! (steps off soapbox)
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    May 31, 2011 8:18 AM GMT
    What does it matter. I am!
    Have always been!
    Will always be!
    Where was the choice.

    Albeit it may of been nice to of been a half brother a bisexual too of received some of the benefits, and respite.
  • janu88

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    May 31, 2011 8:27 AM GMT
    maybe some feel bad...
    because what gays go trough due to society in life ? ;)
    or they say directly... that it must be a birth defect? icon_lol.gif
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    May 31, 2011 8:28 AM GMT
    FunCollegeDude saidEven for people who are accepting of gays they often will say they "feel bad" for us because it must be some sort of a birth defect or something mentally wrong... Why can't people just realize it's natural?


    Even if it's not a birth defect, I'd sure as hell feel sorry for gays if I were straight. You grow up being attracted to half the population and only 5-10% of that population finds your sex attractive. The odds or getting laid are higher with straight people. And well, then there's AIDS.
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    May 31, 2011 9:28 AM GMT
    JB82 said
    And well, then there's AIDS.




    Whaat? icon_lol.gif
    are you serious?
    you think that AIDS has gotten something to do with gays?
    i´m pretty sure that there are more people in AIDS who are straight. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 31, 2011 10:00 AM GMT
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    JB82 said
    And well, then there's AIDS.




    Whaat? icon_lol.gif
    are you serious?
    you think that AIDS has gotten something to do with gays?
    i´m pretty sure that there are more people in AIDS who are straight. icon_rolleyes.gif


    AIDS doesn't have anything to do with men being same-sex attracted(after all, same-sex attracted women report the lowest rate of disease transfer of the entire population). It has to do with the fact that 80%-90% of gay identified men participate in contact that, according to the CDC and the WHO, spread have an infection rate that is 5000% greater than then other forms of contact.

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    Exposure Category (CDC figures) Male Female Total
    Male-to-male sexual contact ??? 420,790 - 420,790
    Injection Drug Use 172,351 67,917 240,268
    Male-to-male sexual contact
    and injection drug use ??? 59,719 - 59,719
    Heterosexual contact ??? 50,793 84,835 135,628
    Other* 14,350 6,519 20,869


    * Includes hemophilia, blood transfusion, prenatal,
    and risk not reported or not identified.

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/us.htmWhile CDC estimates that MSM account for just 4% of the US male population aged 13 and older, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the US is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women.

    ...

    MSM is the only risk group in the U.S. in which new HIV infections have been increasing since the early 1990s.


    It is because of this inordinately large infection rate for a small community that having HIV/AIDS has come to be associated with being gay. Again, simply being same-sex attracted(or a certain race) does not increase your rate of HIV infection(notice how there is actually no data for same-sex attracted women, as they don't/can't participate in high risk contact), but participating in high risk behavior like anal does. (For example, you would have to perform oral 44 times to equal the risk of having anal sex once.)

    Before you decide to flame me for sharing these facts, I suggest you argue with the figures above first to see if they'll change for you.