Jim Tressel resigns in disgrace (before OSU fires him)

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    May 31, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    OSU is likely to suffer major sanctions, including the loss of scholarships.
    Which may make it difficult for them to get a top-notch coach.
    Not to mention they may lose a bunch of their current talent.

    What you've heard in recent months, about 6 players, was just the tip of the iceberg.
    Seems there were 28, of which 9 more were current players.


    ...while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance. Professing a lack of awareness isn't usually the way to get ahead, but it has helped Tressel at key moments in his career. As coach at Youngstown (Ohio) State in the mid-1990s, he claimed not to know that his star quarterback had received a car and more than $10,000 from a school trustee and his associates -- even though it was later established in court documents that Tressel had told the player to go see the trustee. In 2003, during Tressel's third season in Columbus, Buckeyes running back Maurice Clarett was found to have received money and other benefits. Even though Tressel said he spent more time with Clarett than with any other player, he also said he did not know that Clarett had been violating the rules. A year later an internal Ohio State investigation (later corroborated by the NCAA) found that quarterback Troy Smith had taken $500 from a booster. It was the second time the booster had been investigated for allegedly providing improper benefits to a star player, but again Tressel said he had no knowledge of the illicit payment.

    On Monday -- after months of turmoil during which he had first claimed to be unaware of violations in his program and then acknowledged that he had known about them -- Tressel resigned. ...like Hayes, who was fired after hitting a Clemson player during the 1978 Gator Bowl, Tressel exits ignominiously, all of his many accomplishments tarnished. "After meeting with university officials, we agreed that it is in the best interest of Ohio State that I resign as head football coach," Tressel said in a statement.

    ...Tressel's most recent troubles began in December, when the Department of Justice, passing along information it had gathered in a raid while investigating the owner of a Columbus tattoo parlor for drug trafficking, informed Ohio State that at least six current players, ­including quarterback Terrelle Pryor, had traded team memorabilia for tattoos or cash at the parlor. When those revelations became public, Tressel said he hadn't known what the players had done and expressed disappointment that they had not listened to what he called the "little sensor" inside them that knew right from wrong. Four of Tressel's highest-profile players were found to have committed major NCAA violations, yet the coach's supporters insisted that those were isolated incidents outside his control.

    Then, on March 8, Tressel stood before TV cameras and confirmed a Yahoo report that he had been aware of the memorabilia-for-ink scandal and had not informed Ohio State officials when asked about it in December. Tressel said he had first learned that players were breaking NCAA rules almost a year earlier, in April 2010, when a Columbus lawyer e-mailed him. Rather than alert his superiors, as NCAA regulations require, Tressel said he "couldn't think" whom to tell. It was later reported that he had told one person, a hometown adviser of Pryor's. By ignoring his own "little sensor" and failing to be forthcoming, Tressel protected key players from being ruled ineligible for much of the 2010 season, in which the Buckeyes were a popular pick to reach the BCS championship game. (They ended up going 12-1.)

    A failure to disclose potential violations is considered one of the NCAA's cardinal sins and almost always leads to a coach's dismissal or resignation. Yet Ohio State supported Tressel and continued backing him despite weeks of negative press and calls by prominent alumni for him to be replaced.

    That support crumbled suddenly over Memorial Day weekend. Tressel was forced out three days after Sports Illustrated alerted Ohio State officials that the wrongdoing by Tressel's players was far more widespread than had been reported. SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002, Tressel's second season at Ohio State, and involved at least 28 players -- 22 more than the university has acknowledged. Those numbers include, beyond the six suspended players, an additional nine current players as well as nine former players whose alleged wrongdoing might fall within the NCAA's four-year statute of limitations on violations.

    ...For more than a decade, Ohioans have viewed Tressel as a pillar of rectitude, and have disregarded or made excuses for the allegations and scandal that have quietly followed him throughout his career. His integrity was one of the great myths of college football. Like a disgraced politician who preaches probity but is caught in lies, the Senator was not the person he purported to be.
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    May 31, 2011 4:28 AM GMT
    Look up: Schadenfreude
  • ohioguy12

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    May 31, 2011 4:49 AM GMT
    I'm loving all of this. I know a lot of people who practically worship this man. Some because he puts on the act of being a Christian, and always doing the right thing. This was my favorite quote in the story, because I always knew he was a hypocrite.

    "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."
  • ohioguy12

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    May 31, 2011 4:57 AM GMT
    Also people saying they are just gonna get Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops or whoever is crazy. This program is facing the "death penalty, especially since they are gonna have an interim coach all year. During the next year Pryor and company will leave for the Draft, and there will be several transfers, all while recruiting will be almost nonexistent because players want to know who their coach will be, not to mention the program will face loss of scholarships, bowl bans ect. They are doing the exact same thing Cincinnati basketball did with the Bob Huggings firing, which was a flat out disaster setting that program back at least 6 years.
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    May 31, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    The real losers in this mess are the student atheletes there weren't involved in this mess! This is just terrible and tragic!
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    May 31, 2011 1:54 PM GMT
    Shocked? icon_eek.gif

    Not really. icon_neutral.gif
  • hartfan

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    May 31, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
    There's really not much more you can say that has not already been said. But I think this commentary sums it up:

    From Scout.com:When a fair chunk of people – no need to assign a percentage, but it’s appreciable – don’t expect bad behavior to meet with immediate consequences, it’s a clear sign of the rot which permeates the entire college sports structure. It’s good that Tressel is out the door as a consequence of his actions – that needed to happen, even though the more macro-level reality of his downfall after such distinguished on-field accomplishments manages to wrap this value-positive event in a larger cloth of disgrace and shame. Yet, even though it’s good and necessary that Tressel is gone, the larger issues still remain, namely:

    When will Gene Smith turn in his resignation?

    When will Gordon Gee hand in his walking papers?

    When and how will the NCAA deal with Ohio State, and will the punishment in any way be commensurate with what USC received for infractions that dealt with one player, not several? Before one talks about the next coach at Ohio State, the remotely relevant matter of being crippled for four or five seasons – ask Lane Kiffin – would surely enter into the calculus. Urban Meyer won’t walk through that door if he can’t coach in Big Ten Championship Games or BCS title tilts.

    Since all of this began to unfold over tattoos worth roughly $15,000 – not the most earth-shattering event in the world, to say the least – when will the Ohio States and USCs of the world push and litigate to escape the NCAA and usher in the superconference era? Can we see how silly this is? Wait – wrong question. Can university presidents and athletic directors see how silly this is and cut bait with the NCAA while also maneuvering around Title IX to give football players – entertainers, let’s not fool ourselves – the ability to make money from products that are sold in or with their name? Can we get going on these issues now that $15,000 worth of tattoos have caused so many human persons to expend so much human energy on issues that are not the most urgent problems facing college sports?
  • madhatter131

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    May 31, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    Tressel had problems dating back to his Youngstown State days. While he may have treated his football players well and did a lot to help them, he broke NCAA rules, lied about it, and tried to brush it off.

    People haven't call him "a snake" for nothing.

    I think all of this is just what Ohio State deserves. They tried to pretend like the NCAA rules didn't apply during the entire investigation, even allowing the players to play in the Sugar Bowl (which to me way CRAZY).

    Had they just maned up at the start, suspended all the players at the beginning, and worked to correct the problem, they'd be in a much better spot.

    ...of course, what is going on at Ohio State isn't too different from North Carolina now. So....stay tuned.
  • BlueKoolAid

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    May 31, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    I think this is a stupid move my OSU to get rid f Tressel. Seeing that they are prolly going to get hit really bad by the NCAA with the lost of scholarships and maybe not being allowed to play in bowl games either. they need a coach that will still win games and help keep people interested in the team, no good coach is going to take the job until after the sanctions. With Tressel they could still be a force in the Big Ten and even the and even the rest of the league, but without him they will drop to mediocre like Michigan did.

    Good thing the Big Ten added Nebraska to the conference, because with both Michigan and Ohio State programs struggling they are going to need somebody to step up and keep the conference from totally losing interest from the fans.
  • dhinkansas

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    May 31, 2011 9:23 PM GMT
    I don't buy the "protecting his players" spin some of the media is putting on all this. Breaking the rules is breaking the rules, and they were caught. OSU should have suspended the five players for the bowl game themselves.

    Notice how this thread gets limited responses. Gaga or would you bleep the guy above you threads last for days.
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    May 31, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    dhinkansas said...
    Notice how this thread gets limited responses. Gaga or would you bleep the guy above you threads last for days.

    Sad, isn't it?

    Big news folks! The Buckeyes are getting special treatment! Tear out front page! icon_rolleyes.gif

    Anyway, I'm already sick of hearing about this. One of the 'benefits' of having been born and raised in Columbus is the CONSTANT focus on the Buckeyes! Buckeyes this, Buckeyes that. Don't get me wrong, I love Columbus; but Buckeye mania just drive me crazy some days.

    But, I'm curious as to how influential donors and alumni are going to react because we all know how much money the Buckeyes bring into OSU.
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    May 31, 2011 10:09 PM GMT
    Jax, you're right in the football sense, but not the NCAA sense.
    OSU had to "fire" Tressel in an attempt to distance him from the school.
    In a way they're saying: Tressel was the problem, and he's gone. Have mercy on us.
    Had they kept him, the NCAA would have come down even harder (than whatever they end up doing)..

    Now it's time for the jokes to start:

    Tressel put the vest into investigation!
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    May 31, 2011 10:23 PM GMT
    Michigan still sucks!!!!
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    Jun 01, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    Caesarea4> Now it's time for the jokes to start:

    TigerTim> Michigan still sucks!!!!

    Well, there you have it.
    The sum of intelligence in the whole state of Ohio.
    (Where it takes students 4 years to learn how to spell O-H-I-O.)

    Oh, serious response:

    Or, as Buckeyes would say it:

    With Michigan's program on the mend and the OSU program heading to the dumpster (where it belongs), that disparity will grow over the course of this decade and probably the next.
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    Jun 01, 2011 8:21 PM GMT
    Thankfully, I have permanently left Ohio.

    But Michigan does suck and it's pitiful that you can't face it :-)
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
    Caesarea4> there you have it.
    The sum of intelligence in the whole state of Ohio.

    TigerTim> Thankfully, I have permanently left Ohio.

    Congratulations, but that doesn't forbode well for the state.

    TT> But Michigan does suck and it's pitiful that you can't face it :-)

    You can take the boy out of Ohio...

    Some suppose that the brainwashing wears off after a few years/decades, others that the damage is permanent.
    Your next check-up is scheduled for Nov. 26th.
  • mke_bt

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    Jun 02, 2011 7:26 AM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidLook up: Schadenfreude

    I'm actually quite surprised by the lack of gloating here in Wisconsin.
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    Jun 02, 2011 7:40 AM GMT
    So will Ohio State be one of the "little sisters of the poor" for the next few seasons?
  • DalTX

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    Jun 03, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
    Jim Tressel: "THE" disgrace of college football.