Obama Gay Pride Month Proclamation

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    Jun 01, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    Very cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/
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    Jun 01, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
    JeffR saidVery cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/



    JeffR, you've just been answered by a famous troll. He's famous enough to have an entire writeup on Encyclopedia Dramatica.

    Here's why:


    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1583342/

    " The House of Representatives on Thursday approved its version of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act with three controversial, antigay amendments, one of which is aimed at delaying repeal implementation of "don't ask, don't tell."


    The amendments, all opposed by the Obama administration, would require the four service branch chiefs to sign off on DADT repeal, affirm that the Defense of Marriage Act applies to Defense Department policies, and prohibit weddings for same-sex couples at military facilities — as well as bar military chaplains from performing such weddings in their official capacity. The House version of the defense authorization bill was approved by a 322 to 96 vote."

    The House is Republican controlled, and I think they are scared of their electorate and/or have too many social conservatives instead of economic conservatives.
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    Jun 01, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
    Oops.. SBeyotch spilled egg on his face..again....................
    And why has nothing changed on ending DADT SB? Hmmm? Hmmmm?
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    Obama can suck it. He is as anti gay as Clinton, Bush and every other president. He has no reason to be gay friendly.
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    JeffR saidVery cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/



    Yep, nothing has changed.

    Another Democrat administration (this time also having controlled Congress for 2 years) and nothing has changed.

    But the Democrats sure talk the talk, don't they?


    And what was done from January 2001 to January 2009...????

    Not a damn thing except you stalking Donald Rumsfeld and wanting to be like John Ashcroft when you grew up..........

    You still have no solutions to problems and conflicts. All you and your ilk do is finger point and blame others. Want someone to blame? Go look in a mirror. You probably have a hard-on for Paul Ryan too.....
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
    is this proclamation good in all 57 states and did he sign it or did he use the auto pen?
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:35 AM GMT
    JeffR saidVery cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/


    They are giving the military time to adjust to the change and maintain readiness, personally i think this was a mistake as well since the problems it will cause overall!
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:36 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    Yep, nothing has changed.

    Another Democrat administration (this time also having controlled Congress for 2 years) and nothing has changed.

    But the Democrats sure talk the talk, don't they?


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    Jun 02, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidObama can suck it. He is as anti gay as Clinton, Bush and every other president. He has no reason to be gay friendly.


    How can he not be since he believes America is One Nation Under God. Now I have no issues of that thought, as America has long been seen and considered a Christain country. But coming from a democrat that speaks volumes, and lets one know what side of the bed he lies on....
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    Jun 02, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    Im glad he was golfing on Memorial day, but he can declare Pride Month. Bravo.
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    Jun 02, 2011 5:19 AM GMT
    Actually , I think jockfever is in favour of this turn of events and credits the Republican Party for it.


    Scroll down the topic and take a look:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1583342/

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    Jun 02, 2011 8:17 AM GMT
    Then lets not forget too support our half brothers the bisexuals, and their pride flag, and help them feel pride too. It should include them and not just our falg/banner.
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    Jun 02, 2011 8:21 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    JeffR saidVery cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/



    Yep, nothing has changed.

    Another Democrat administration (this time also having controlled Congress for 2 years) and nothing has changed.

    But the Democrats sure talk the talk, don't they?


    But didn't DADT remain under the previous administration also?
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    Jun 02, 2011 12:30 PM GMT
    Certainly am pleased Obama and the democratic party have moved forward as we would expect with these issues.
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:18 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Yes. But the previous administration didn't campaign on repealing DADT. The Democrats did.


    And look what happened when the Democrats tried, or can't you read?

    "The amendments, all opposed by the Obama administration, would require the four service branch chiefs to sign off on DADT repeal, affirm that the Defense of Marriage Act applies to Defense Department policies, and prohibit weddings for same-sex couples at military facilities — as well as bar military chaplains from performing such weddings in their official capacity. The House version of the defense authorization bill was approved by a 322 to 96 vote."

    Now tell us all which party controls the House.
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:27 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    JeffR saidVery cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/



    Yep, nothing has changed.

    Another Democrat administration (this time also having controlled Congress for 2 years) and nothing has changed.

    But the Democrats sure talk the talk, don't they?


    But didn't DADT remain under the previous administration also?


    Yes. But the previous administration didn't campaign on repealing DADT. The Democrats did.


    But the previous administration didnt enact DADT. The democrats did.
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:36 PM GMT

    Dallasfan824, before DADT the military could spy on you on your own time and try to ferret out gays and have them booted out of the forces in disgrace. DADT put a stop to that, but to get it passed, there had to be a compromise that those opposed could swallow.

    "The "don't ask" part of the DADT policy specifies that superiors should not initiate investigation of a servicemember's orientation in the absence of disallowed behaviors, though credible and articulable evidence of homosexual behavior may cause an investigation. Violations of this aspect through unauthorized investigations and harassment of suspected servicemen and women resulted in the policy's current formulation as "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue, don't harass."


    If Clinton ( at that time north america was much less accepting of anything gay) had tried to open the military to openly gay people, there wouldn't even have been a DADT to protect those service men and women from harrassment.

    " The policy was introduced as a compromise measure in 1993 by President Bill Clinton who campaigned on the promise to allow all citizens to serve in the military regardless of sexual orientation.[10] At the time, per the December 21, 1993 Department of Defense Directive 1332.14,[11] it was legal policy (10 U.S.C. § 654)[12] that homosexuality is incompatible with military service and that persons who engaged in homosexual acts or stated that they are homosexual or bisexual were to be discharged.[10][13] The Uniform Code of Military Justice, passed by Congress in 1950 and signed by President Harry S Truman, established the policies and procedures for discharging homosexual servicemembers.[14][not in citation given][improper synthesis?]
    Congress overrode Clinton by including text in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1994 (passed in 1993) requiring the military to abide by regulations essentially identical to the 1982 absolute ban policy.[13] The Clinton Administration on December 21, 1993,[15] issued Defense Directive 1304.26, which directed that military applicants were not to be asked about their sexual orientation.[13] This is the policy now known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". The phrase was coined by Charles Moskos, a military sociologist."


    from wikipedia
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    Hope he gets re-elected
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:43 PM GMT
    charlitos saidHope he gets re-elected


    Sadly I think he has it in the bag.
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
    Cut him some slack. We have to remember that he has a lot (and boy do I mean a lot) of conservatives and liberals to make happy. Of course he's not going to make drastic decisions because he has to find common ground with everyone.

    This isn't the United States of LGBT unfortunately...I think too many gays are trying to become the priority and as much as I want equal rights for all (I am very gay), it can't happen overnight.

    Give him credit where credit is due. Remember, Congress makes most of the rules folks, its not all in Obama's hands.

    That is all. Good day :-)
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:52 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    charlitos saidHope he gets re-elected


    Sadly I think he has it in the bag.


    sadly i think it doesnt get any better than this
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    Jun 02, 2011 1:58 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    JeffR, you've just been answered by a famous troll. He's famous enough to have an entire writeup on Encyclopedia Dramatica.


    And this is why I have the guy blocked... 'cause it's all for show.
    As for Obama, I thought he was always pretty supportive of us. During his tenure as the IL state senator, he showed up at Chicago Gay Pride every year that I lived there.
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    JeffR, you've just been answered by a famous troll. He's famous enough to have an entire writeup on Encyclopedia Dramatica.


    And this is why I have the guy blocked... 'cause it's all for show.
    As for Obama, I thought he was always pretty supportive of us. During his tenure as the IL state senator, he showed up at Chicago Gay Pride every year that I lived there.


    Yet was openly against gay marriage. Hmm.
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    Dallasfan824 said
    charlitos saidHope he gets re-elected


    Sadly I think he has it in the bag.


    sadly i think it doesnt get any better than this


    Well we will certainly never find out. Hopefully his hands will tied for his second term and we can just wait it out.
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    Jun 02, 2011 2:41 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    JeffR saidVery cool that he did this, though 6 months ago he signed the repeal of DADT and nothing has been changed.....isn't he the commander in chief?

    http://thequeertimes.com/2011/06/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-pride-month-2/



    Yep, nothing has changed.

    Another Democrat administration (this time also having controlled Congress for 2 years) and nothing has changed.

    But the Democrats sure talk the talk, don't they?


    But didn't DADT remain under the previous administration also?


    Yes. But the previous administration didn't campaign on repealing DADT. The Democrats did.


    So you'd rather someone who supports it and has no intention of removing DADT and others, than someone who tries to dismantle it (albeit not as fast as ideal)?

    That's like Stockholm syndrome lol