Coconut Oil: Good/Bad? How do you use it?

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    Jun 02, 2011 1:55 PM GMT
    So my flatmate uses coconut oil for all kinds of things, as a moisturiser, as a cooking oil, in smoothies... etc. I've found a lot of stuff online about these kinds of applications but there's a TON of debate about whether it's actually good or bad for you. Just wondering if people on here have opinions about it/experience with it. Thanks!

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    Jun 02, 2011 2:00 PM GMT
    I've never done any research into (nor used) coconut oil, but I still wanted to drop in and say you're hot. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:22 PM GMT
    I give coconut oil a thumbs up as a Physician. If you look at the history of Coconut oil it was very widely used at one point, some would say the lobbying efforts of the soybean and corn industry are to blame for painting all other oils as "bad". The reason most say its bad is its Saturated Fat content, but not all saturated fats are created equal. Coconut oil has a high content of the medium chain fatty acid Lauric Acid, which is a great antiviral and immune supporting component. It is actually concentrated to create products of lauric acid that can be effectively used to treat viral, bacterial and protozoal infections. There is even some evidence showing that a diet rich in these medium chain triglycerides (fatty acids) (MCTs) may actually promote weight loss. We also know that MCTs can be a good energy source for muscle tissue. On the flip side, I have known Docs who utilize coconut oil rich diets to put mass on patients. When I was in my undergrad Dietetics training we were told to tell people to avoid any oils that were solid at room temperature, however I think this is a bit too simplistic for those wishing to take their nutrition to the next level. The problem with our country is that we have been brainwashed into thinking that "fat will make us fat" and to be scared of all oils which is a huge disservice to the health of our nation. Its about the type, quality, quantity and variety of the fats/oils. As a side note, grass fed and grass FINISHED beef has a totally different lipid (fat) profile than its grain fed supermarket counterpart. I would like to see some research done on utilizing this as a lean protein for bodybuilding, as I think it could be a great option and calm the whole red meat scare.

    I routinely use Coconut oil (cooking, body, lube - haha), extra virgin olive oil and safflower oil (for high temp cooking). If you do the coconut oil make sure its organic and unrefined. Also Peanut oil is a great frying oil due to its high flash point, but I would use it infrequently at most.

    I avoid anything with Trans fats (you know this by anything on the ingredients that says Partially Hydrogenated ...) and I really think that the vegetable oils which are usually just corn oil but also soy and canola are garbage and create more inflammation in our bodies than they are worth. However, they are widely used in restaurants due to their being cheap so while they cant be eliminated I do suggest not using them at home.

    Sorry for the long post, but I guess the point is that Coconut oil seems to have more benefit than dangers and may even be a great option for those looking to support their building.

    See:
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/3/329.abstract

    And P.S. this is my first post! Seemed appropriate to match a first with a first icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:35 PM GMT
    I use it as a deep hair conditioner because my hair is a little bit over processed.
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    I love coconut oil.

    I use it in my protein smoothies, as a replacement for vegetable oil in some recipes, and sometimes I just eat it off a spoon (sounds gross, but it's gooood).

    In all my research on coconut oil, it's all positive. I agree with everything DreamItDoIt said in his post. More importantly, and this can apply to a wide variety of foods, research those regions that rely on coconuts and coconut oils most and what are the mortality rates and healthy records of those regions?
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:54 PM GMT
    So dreamitDoIt, can you elaborate more on coconut oil being used as a lube?icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    As part of a raw food diet, raw coconut oil is used very frequently. I'd definitely classify it as healthy fat.
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    Sep 17, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    I read somewhere that this guy who is poz after ingesting cononuts everyday that his viral load was decreased dramatically. Here is an interview that he did.

    http://www.mtmayon.com/Articles/ReturnFromTheJungle.html

    I provided the link for information purposes only. If you are wondering about this, please contact your healthcare professionals.
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    Sep 17, 2011 9:25 PM GMT
    i use coconut based shampoo.
  • DreamItDoIt

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    Sep 19, 2011 5:15 AM GMT
    Novaplayer saidSo dreamitDoIt, can you elaborate more on coconut oil being used as a lube?icon_smile.gif


    Haha... pretty self-explanatory no? Although its not water based, so I guess its bad in the sense that it should not be used with condoms. And... sadly leaves oil stains on the sheets! Im also pretty partial to 100% aloe too... oh the things we gay men try!
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    Sep 19, 2011 1:36 PM GMT
    DreamItDoIt saidI give coconut oil a thumbs up as a Physician. If you look at the history of Coconut oil it was very widely used at one point, some would say the lobbying efforts of the soybean and corn industry are to blame for painting all other oils as "bad". The reason most say its bad is its Saturated Fat content, but not all saturated fats are created equal. Coconut oil has a high content of the medium chain fatty acid Lauric Acid, which is a great antiviral and immune supporting component. It is actually concentrated to create products of lauric acid that can be effectively used to treat viral, bacterial and protozoal infections. There is even some evidence showing that a diet rich in these medium chain triglycerides (fatty acids) (MCTs) may actually promote weight loss. We also know that MCTs can be a good energy source for muscle tissue. On the flip side, I have known Docs who utilize coconut oil rich diets to put mass on patients. When I was in my undergrad Dietetics training we were told to tell people to avoid any oils that were solid at room temperature, however I think this is a bit too simplistic for those wishing to take their nutrition to the next level. The problem with our country is that we have been brainwashed into thinking that "fat will make us fat" and to be scared of all oils which is a huge disservice to the health of our nation. Its about the type, quality, quantity and variety of the fats/oils. As a side note, grass fed and grass FINISHED beef has a totally different lipid (fat) profile than its grain fed supermarket counterpart. I would like to see some research done on utilizing this as a lean protein for bodybuilding, as I think it could be a great option and calm the whole red meat scare.

    I routinely use Coconut oil (cooking, body, lube - haha), extra virgin olive oil and safflower oil (for high temp cooking). If you do the coconut oil make sure its organic and unrefined. Also Peanut oil is a great frying oil due to its high flash point, but I would use it infrequently at most.

    I avoid anything with Trans fats (you know this by anything on the ingredients that says Partially Hydrogenated ...) and I really think that the vegetable oils which are usually just corn oil but also soy and canola are garbage and create more inflammation in our bodies than they are worth. However, they are widely used in restaurants due to their being cheap so while they cant be eliminated I do suggest not using them at home.

    Sorry for the long post, but I guess the point is that Coconut oil seems to have more benefit than dangers and may even be a great option for those looking to support their building.

    See:
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/3/329.abstract

    And P.S. this is my first post! Seemed appropriate to match a first with a first icon_smile.gif


    Great first post! Please do many more like this.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
    It stinks!

    Why can't they make watermelon oil or raspberry oil?
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:09 PM GMT
    I have very curly hair and use it as hair product... works fantastically.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    I've never seen it in the store. How does the price compare to olive oil?
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:47 PM GMT
    kandsk saidI've never seen it in the store. How does the price compare to olive oil?


    Depends on the quantity and quality of either one. Here's one example of a quality coconut oil:

    http://www.vitacost.com/Nutiva-Certified-Organic-Extra-Virgin-Coconut-Oil
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    Sep 19, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
    Oh wow, thanks Dream for reviving this threat! And for providing some great information! I had a feeling about many of the things you mentioned, so nice to hear some reaffirmation of them. I've also used it for my hair, mixed with used-coffee grounds... makes a great natural skin exfoliant (FOR NON-OILY SKIN.. I've got oily skin and it made mine worse!) and is great for dry hair and split ends blah blah...

    But in terms of cooking, glad to hear another person giving it some praises!!
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    Sep 19, 2011 4:38 PM GMT
    A nutritionist told me that coconut oil is good for fighting inflammation -- something about its Omega 3-6 ratio is supposed to be quite good. I like it for that reason, and because I'm always looking for sources of healthy calories.
  • Intercoastal

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    Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    i use raw coconut oil in everything food hair and skin its great for popping popcorn deeply conditions your hair and mosturizes great .... hell its good lube in a pinch lol but the health benefits are good

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    Sep 26, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
    Dude read the coconut oil miracle. It's amazing.
    I use it on my face, put it on any cuts or wounds I get to help it heal faster. I use it as an oil to scramble my egg whites in (fucking delicious). I put a spoonful or two in some oatmeal to add some healthy fats to the mix. etc etc. Coconut oil is awesome.
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    Sep 26, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
    Also the best lube ever.. haha.
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    Sep 26, 2011 4:14 PM GMT
    kandsk saidI've never seen it in the store. How does the price compare to olive oil?


    Great thread, and thanks guys--I've read a lot about using it in the kitchen, but when I saw the price of it in my local supermarket (after finally finding it), I wrote it off. Now a quick search has actually revealed a more affordable source that even does same-day delivery in Toronto. cheers!
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    Sep 26, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
    I've had a cholesterol problem for a number of years, and was told to avoid coconut oil. Was I misadvised by the doctor?
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    Sep 26, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    As for mixing it into oatmeal, smoothies, ect. ...does it taste very "coconutty"? I'm not a fan of coconut, but always up for adding something good for me into my cooking.
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    Sep 26, 2011 11:19 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI've had a cholesterol problem for a number of years, and was told to avoid coconut oil. Was I misadvised by the doctor?


    Your physician was just following the party line. Since coconut oil is a saturated fat, it's bad for cholesterol.

    Recently it has been determined that not all saturated fats are created equal, and not all saturated fats are bad for you. Coconut oil contains lauric acid a medium chained fatty acid. Lauric acid rather than worsening cholesterol levels it actually improves levels. Lauric acid raises the good cholesterol HDL and lowers the bad cholesterol LDL.
    The second problem with coconut oil resulted from the studies which used partially hydrogenated coconut oil. This chemical modification of the oil resulted in the formation of trans fat. Trans fat does a double whammy on cholesterol. Trans fat raises the bad cholesterol LDL and lowers the good cholesterol HDL.
    Since virgin coconut oil has not been chemically altered, there are no trans fats. Virgin coconut oil is much healthier for you.
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    Sep 26, 2011 11:21 PM GMT
    I use extra virgin olive oil. It's supposed to be good for you and prevent cancer.