LEASE AGREEMENT, is he lying to me?

  • firefliez

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    Jun 03, 2011 10:56 PM GMT
    Hello,

    I found this cool place to stay at when moving to NY, soon, and I found this cool dude that he has a place to rent. it belongs to his family and he lives there. So gave me a lease to read and then when I'm done with it I need to sign it and SEND MY MONEY TO HIS MOM IN LONDON. What do you guys think? I need someone who's familiar with what's legal and what's not. The guy send me the lease agreement, but I want someone to tell me whether its fraud or not icon_rolleyes.gif

    PS the I've deleted my name, his name and his mom's name.

    link for the lease : http://uploading.com/files/get/fe797dd6/
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    Jun 03, 2011 11:00 PM GMT
    never send money ever!!!
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    Jun 03, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    Why can't he collect the money as an agent for his mother, issue you a receipt, and forward the money to his mother in London himself?
  • firefliez

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    Jun 03, 2011 11:13 PM GMT
    well, this is what happened.. took photos of my passport over to his lawyer and made the lease agreement. he sounds like a legit dude to me, yet I wanna make sure before it's too late.. and since I'm not in NY I can't reach him for me to give him the money.

    I just wanna know that the lease he gave me wasn't fraud or anything.
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    Jun 03, 2011 11:15 PM GMT
    I wouldn't do it.
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    Jun 03, 2011 11:20 PM GMT
    I wouldn't be able to tell if the lease was fraudulent but stories like that are pretty common. You wire money to another country and then never see it again. My friend was looking at a house for sale and the lady had a legit sounding story ending with "I just need you to send me 2 grand" to start or as a down payment, I think she said she was stuck in Europe or was just on vacation there so that's where he was going to send it. He did some research, looked up the neighbors phone number and called them and it turned out the house wasn't even for sale.

    I tried to buy an antique car on craigslist (a cutlass) which he said he'd have delivered to me. I offered to go and pick it up myself, after a lot of persuading he gave me a bullshit address in the middle of nowhere in Minnesota or something. I then realized the license plate was blocked out with the same color as the car so you didn't really notice and a couple other signs it was a scam.

    Wiring money is almost always bad.
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    Jun 04, 2011 2:04 AM GMT
    Sounds sketchy.

    Somebody tried to pull a lease scam on me here in San Francisco.

    If I can't see the place, and get the keys the moment I turn over the signed lease and the cash/cashiers check/money order... no deal.
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    Jun 04, 2011 2:42 AM GMT
    Scam. Lease agreements should always be done in person. Never long distance, and never through a proxy. Real estate information is public record. You can find out who the owner of the building/unit is. But I guess it doesn't matter. You've already sent him pics of your passport. It's probably being sold and resold to identity thieves by now.

    Even if it was legit. I wouldn't want to deal with long distance landlords anyways.
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    Jun 04, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
    IMO scam.
  • benarw

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    Jun 04, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
    NO DO NOT SIGN THAT LEASE OR SEND THAT MAN ANY $$. It's a scam. Never sign a lease for an apartment you haven't actually seen (in person, being shown photos of the place doesn't count). I ran into this exact situation several times when apartment hunting in NYC. Be wary of any lease/apartment that sounds too good to be true (especially in NYC) cause I promise you, it is a lie.
    Protect yourself!

    And on a more positive note, good luck on your apartment hunt! You'll have to look at a lot of places before you find a match, but it's totally worth it!
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    Jun 04, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    First warning sign: sending money abroad. Let me guess, he wants you to send the cash via Western Union, right? Don't do it.