Arab-American group blocks musician over 'freedom' song

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    Jun 09, 2011 1:32 AM GMT
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0611/ArabAmerican_group_blocks_singer.html

    A leading Arab American group dropped a prominent Syrian-American musician from performing at their annual convention in a dispute over a freedom-tinged song that he was set to perform.

    The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a longtime Washington civil rights group, repeatedly asked the German-born Syrian composer and pianist Malek Jandali to reconsider his piece choice, Jandali told POLITICO. When he refused, Jandali was told today that he couldn't perform at this weekend's event.

    Jandali's "Watani Ana: I am my Homeland" doesn't specifically mention Syria or the broader Arab Spring uprisings, but is heavy on the themes of freedom and liberty. Jandali calls it a "humanitarian song." But lyrics include "oh my homeland, when will I see you free" and "When the land is watered with the blood of martyrs and the brave/ And all the people shout: Freedom to mankind."

    Jandali himself declined to speculate why he wasn't allowed to perform "Watani Ana," and an official at the ADC, Nabil Mohamad, refused to explain its decision.

    "Is is it the words? The scale of the music? Was the rhythm too slow? Did the melody maybe bother them?" Jandali asked POLITICO. "I really would love to hear their answer. It would have been a perfect song."

    "It doesn''t mention the word 'Arab' or 'Syria' or anything," he said. "It''s a humanitarian song."

    However other observers speculated that the song's implications might have troubled the Syrian government, which is in the midst of a bloody crackdown on its citizens, or its allies. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has defied international calls to end the crackdown and ordered security forces into the streets to quell unrest. He has also ratcheted up tensions with neighboring Israel, allowing Palestinian and Syrian protesters to approach the sealed Syrian-Israeli boarder. Twenty-three of those demonstrators were later killed by Israeli forces after they tried to rush the border.
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    And your opinion?

    I know socalfitness and Southbeach were giving Metta grief for not commenting on threads he started. I'd hate for you to be on the receiving end of their criticism.
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    creature saidAnd your opinion?

    I know socalfitness and Southbeach were giving Metta grief for not commenting on threads he started. I'd hate for you to be on the receiving end of their criticism.


    What is there for me to comment on this? It's sad and unfortunate. Did you bother reading it or were you just looking for something to attack me with?
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:47 AM GMT
    I read it.

    But I couldn't help notice socalfitness and Southbeach being on Metta's case for not commenting on the threads he start. And considering how buddy-buddy you are with them, I'd hate to see your two new threads, which are absent of your input, to tarnish your relationship with them.
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:49 AM GMT
    creature saidI read it.

    But I couldn't help notice socalfitness and Southbeach being on Metta's case for not commenting on the threads he start. And considering how buddy-buddy you are with them, I'd hate to see your two new threads, which are absent of your input, to tarnish your relationship with them.


    Not sure how you figure I am buddy buddy with them. Yes, I can imagine how you'd hate to see that despite the fact of how consistently partisan you are.
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:51 AM GMT
    Well I know those two wouldn't want to appear as hypocrites. At least, that's my opinion. That's why I raised this concern.

    And partisanship has nothing to do with this.
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:53 AM GMT
    creature saidWell I know those two wouldn't want to appear as hypocrites. At least, that's my opinion. That's why I raised this concern.

    And partisanship has nothing to do with this.


    Sure it didn't.
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    Jun 09, 2011 1:56 AM GMT
    Does this thread have anything to do with Democrats or Republicans?

    I don't think so. But carry on with your spammy threads. I guess your friends have turned the other cheek.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    creature saidDoes this thread have anything to do with Democrats or Republicans?

    I don't think so. But carry on with your spammy threads. I guess your friends have turned the other cheek.


    Spammy? No, you aren't partisan at all. I'm sorry you struggle for relevance.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:05 AM GMT
    I'm only giving back with those two threw at Metta. Apparently it doesn't sit so well. I'll be sure to remind them the next time they voice similar concerns.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:06 AM GMT
    creature saidAnd your opinion?

    I know socalfitness and Southbeach were giving Metta grief for not commenting on threads he started. I'd hate for you to be on the receiving end of their criticism.

    riddler comments extensively and intelligently in his threads and those of others. That is his clear track record, unlike some others. His contributions include links as well as substantial original comments. The comparison, in and of itself, is totally absurd.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
    creature saidI'm only giving back with those two threw at Metta. Apparently it doesn't sit so well. I'll be sure to remind them the next time they voice similar concerns.


    Not sure what you're referring to though I do know that metta8 rarely participates in any of the discussions if that's what you're talking about. Perhaps you'd care to remind metta8 of that as well in the future.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
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    creature saidAnd your opinion?

    I know socalfitness and Southbeach were giving Metta grief for not commenting on threads he started. I'd hate for you to be on the receiving end of their criticism.

    riddler comments extensively and intelligently in his threads and those of others. That is his clear track record, unlike some others. His contributions include links as well as extensive original comments. The comparison, in and of itself, is totally absurd.


    But he didn't do so for the latest two threads. He simply just copy and pasted some of the article without injecting his alleged extensive comments and supposed intelligence for discussion.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
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    creature saidI'm only giving back with those two threw at Metta. Apparently it doesn't sit so well. I'll be sure to remind them the next time they voice similar concerns.


    Not sure what you're referring to though I do know that metta8 rarely participates in any of the discussions if that's what you're talking about. Perhaps you'd care to remind metta8 of that as well in the future.


    You missed the point.
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    creature saidAnd your opinion?

    I know socalfitness and Southbeach were giving Metta grief for not commenting on threads he started. I'd hate for you to be on the receiving end of their criticism.

    riddler comments extensively and intelligently in his threads and those of others. That is his clear track record, unlike some others. His contributions include links as well as extensive original comments. The comparison, in and of itself, is totally absurd.


    But he didn't do so for the latest two threads. He simply just copy and pasted some of the article without injecting his alleged extensive comments and supposed intelligence for discussion.

    His track record is substantial. The other RJ member very seldom participates in any substantive way at all. The difference is striking and your point has no validity.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:14 AM GMT
    His "substantive" contributions are questionable.

    Either way, if you and southbeach taunted Metta for not stating his opinion on a subject for a particular thread, I thought it would be dutiful to remind riddler that his friends insist upon posters to provide their opinion on news topics they start.

    Either way I'm done. I see hypocrisy is alive in well.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:15 AM GMT
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    creature saidAnd your opinion?

    I know socalfitness and Southbeach were giving Metta grief for not commenting on threads he started. I'd hate for you to be on the receiving end of their criticism.

    riddler comments extensively and intelligently in his threads and those of others. That is his clear track record, unlike some others. His contributions include links as well as extensive original comments. The comparison, in and of itself, is totally absurd.


    But he didn't do so for the latest two threads. He simply just copy and pasted some of the article without injecting his alleged extensive comments and supposed intelligence for discussion.


    I did after you asked. Instead you insist on being a partisan hack in order to attack me personally and you keep harping at this ironically meta discussion.
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    creature saidHis "substantive" contributions are questionable.

    Either way, if you and southbeach taunted Metta for not stating his opinion on a subject for a particular thread, I thought it would be dutiful to remind riddler that his friends insist upon posters to provide their opinion on news topics they start.

    Either way I'm done. I see hypocrisy is alive in well.


    That it is - apparently so pervasive in your life that you can't even see it.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    There you go again bringing partisanship into this. Dude, get over it. Not everything has to deal with partisanship.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    creature saidThere you go again bringing partisanship into this. Dude, get over it. Not everything has to deal with partisanship.


    No - not everything does and I certainly have not claimed as much. But this personal attack on me does. As you noted - irony abounds.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    creature saidHis "substantive" contributions are questionable.

    Either way, if you and southbeach taunted Metta for not stating his opinion on a subject for a particular thread, I thought it would be dutiful to remind riddler that his friends insist upon posters to provide their opinion on news topics they start.

    Either way I'm done. I see hypocrisy is alive in well.

    You may not agree with him, but his contributions are definitely substantive. If you want to try and find hypocrisy, I'm sure you can find examples somewhere, but your attempt here is a fail.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
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    creature saidThere you go again bringing partisanship into this. Dude, get over it. Not everything has to deal with partisanship.


    No - not everything does and I certainly have not claimed as much. But this personal attack on me does. As you noted - irony abounds.


    This has nothing to do with the political parties. And quit with the victim card, my comment was not an "attack."
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:28 AM GMT
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    creature saidThere you go again bringing partisanship into this. Dude, get over it. Not everything has to deal with partisanship.


    No - not everything does and I certainly have not claimed as much. But this personal attack on me does. As you noted - irony abounds.


    This has nothing to do with the political parties. And quit with the victim card, my comment was not an "attack."


    Sure it wasn't. I'll believe that when you start contributing something useful instead of hijacking a thread for your own personal attacks. You asked me what my view was - I responded. Instead of actually being relevant you chose to harp on an issue entirely unreleated and meta and attacking others. Grow up and in your words "get over it" - whatever "it" is for you.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:29 AM GMT
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    creature saidHis "substantive" contributions are questionable.

    Either way, if you and southbeach taunted Metta for not stating his opinion on a subject for a particular thread, I thought it would be dutiful to remind riddler that his friends insist upon posters to provide their opinion on news topics they start.

    Either way I'm done. I see hypocrisy is alive in well.

    You may not agree with him, but his contributions are definitely substantive. If you want to try and find hypocrisy, I'm sure you can find examples somewhere, but your attempt here is a fail.


    I'm aware of how Riddler typically posts. I know he always adds some input to the article. The omissions from two of his recent threads is what prompted me to bring this up, since I know it was so important for you and southbeach, since you both took digs at Metta.
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    Jun 09, 2011 2:31 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    creature said
    riddler78 said
    creature saidThere you go again bringing partisanship into this. Dude, get over it. Not everything has to deal with partisanship.


    No - not everything does and I certainly have not claimed as much. But this personal attack on me does. As you noted - irony abounds.


    This has nothing to do with the political parties. And quit with the victim card, my comment was not an "attack."


    Sure it wasn't. I'll believe that when you start contributing something useful instead of hijacking a thread for your own personal attacks. You asked me what my view was - I responded. Instead of actually being relevant you chose to harp on an issue entirely unreleated and meta and attacking others. Grow up and in your words "get over it" - whatever "it" is for you.


    With this intelligence that socalfitness claims you have, please inform me what this topic has to do with Republicans and Democrats. Tell me why my alleged partisanship had me responding to this thread and the other.