MITT FITTS: IS HOMOSEXUALITY A SIN?

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    Jun 09, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    On CNN's Piers Morgan show Tuesday night, Mitt dodges the question: Is homosexuality a sin?


    MORGAN: Do you personally think homosexuality is a sin?

    M. ROMNEY: Nice try, but I'm not going to get into --


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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 09, 2011 1:39 PM GMT
    If your point here is to try to make Mitt Romney look anti-gay, you failed. I saw the interview. He didn't elect to go down that road with the question, which I am perfectly fine with. I don't believe Mitt Romney to be anti-gay at all. Just because someone doesn't speak out and be a cheerleader for the gays doesn't make them "anti-gay" --- not that you were suggesting that he is. Perhaps Mr. Romney felt their were more important issues to cover in his interview with the perpetually annoying Piers Morgan.
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    CuriousJockAZ saidIf your point here is to try to make Mitt Romney look anti-gay, you failed. I saw the interview. He didn't elect to go down that road with the question, which I am perfectly fine with. I don't believe Mitt Romney to be anti-gay at all. Just because someone doesn't speak out and be a cheerleader for the gays doesn't make them "anti-gay" --- not that you were suggesting that he is. Perhaps Mr. Romney felt their were more important issues to cover in his interview with the perpetually annoying Piers Morgan.


    Just answer the question Mitt. Just answer the question.

    Perhaps Mitt should just say he is in favor of gay rights but against homosexual acts. That way he can flip flop whenever it's convenient. icon_lol.gif
  • Mepark

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    Jun 09, 2011 4:44 PM GMT
    Why would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?" There are plenty of much more worthy gay rights questions he could have asked and instead he jumped to a pointless, religious one. I easily interpreted "nice try" as "do you really believe I think homosexuality is a sin or that it matters whether it is or not for a President the United States." Nice try OP icon_wink.gif Romney is the least of our worries as gay citizens.
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    Jun 09, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    "Would you discriminate against fat people by not having sex with them?"

    Are those the next questions we should expect to be part of a political discussion?

    maybe he should try: "Do you personally in your heart of hearts find fat people repulsive?"
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    Jun 09, 2011 8:30 PM GMT
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"


    Why didn't Mitt just answer the question and let the voters decide if it's an important issue or not?
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    Jun 10, 2011 4:22 PM GMT
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.
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    Jun 10, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
    theantijock saidBecause it isn't always fair to ask how someone feels about someone else. But it is always fair to ask if someone else should be treated fairly.

    There are plenty of people who I think are scum, but I defend their right to be scum.

    His religious views don't matter. Only his views on civil rights count.


    Impeccably stated!
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    Jun 10, 2011 5:03 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said"Would you discriminate against fat people by not having sex with them?"

    Are those the next questions we should expect to be part of a political discussion?

    maybe he should try: "Do you personally in your heart of hearts find fat people repulsive?"


    I truly fail to see the connection this has to anything thats been said.
  • DalTX

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    Jun 10, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    It doesnt really matter what his position is, it'll change in 5 minutes anyway.
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    Jun 11, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    And IF Obama answered that one, I wouldn't be hugely surprised to hear Obama answer yes to that one.
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    Jun 11, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    And IF Obama answered that one, I wouldn't be hugely surprised to hear Obama answer yes to that one.


    He has answered it. Repeatedly. Of course, he equivocated but his actions on behalf of queer people are unprecedented in our history.
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    Jun 11, 2011 4:04 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.



  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 11, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
    Who cares if Mitt Romney thinks whether or not homosexuality is a sin, there are more paramount issues like our deficit and depressed economy that need to be addressed. Mitt is definitely the least of the gay community's worries except for all the extremist liberal hens on RJ.
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    Jun 11, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.





    I assume no such thing, in fact, I think Mitt Romney is probably far more accepting of homosexuals than many here would have you believe. I presume he would probably say something like "God is the one to decide if homosexuality is a sin, but he did create them that way. Regardless, we are all sinners...so what's your point?". Mitt Romney is wisely shying away from this topic, for the moment at least, since the country has far more pressing issues that affect a great many more Americans than gay issues.
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    Jun 11, 2011 4:49 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    He has answered it. Repeatedly. Of course, he equivocated but his actions on behalf of queer people are unprecedented in our history.



    Am I the only one here that finds being called "queer" almost more offensive than any other gay slang term. I just don't like the term at all.
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    Jun 11, 2011 4:51 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.





    I assume no such thing, in fact, I think Mitt Romney is probably far more accepting of homosexuals than many here would have you believe. I presume he would probably say something like "God is the one to decide if homosexuality is a sin, but he did create them that way. Regardless, we are all sinners...so what's your point?". Mitt Romney is wisely shying away from this topic, for the moment at least, since the country has far more pressing issues that affect a great many more Americans than gay issues.


    Still so ironic that one of the most 'liberal' on gay issues of the big name politicians is none other than Richard B Cheney.

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    Jun 11, 2011 4:55 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Christian73 said
    He has answered it. Repeatedly. Of course, he equivocated but his actions on behalf of queer people are unprecedented in our history.



    Am I the only one here that finds being called "queer" almost more offensive than any other gay slang term. I just don't like the term at all.


    I tell folks jokingly when I first come out to them to don't dare call me gay, but to use homo, queer, or fag or maybe even my name. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 11, 2011 5:51 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.





    I assume no such thing, in fact, I think Mitt Romney is probably far more accepting of homosexuals than many here would have you believe. I presume he would probably say something like "God is the one to decide if homosexuality is a sin, but he did create them that way. Regardless, we are all sinners...so what's your point?". Mitt Romney is wisely shying away from this topic, for the moment at least, since the country has far more pressing issues that affect a great many more Americans than gay issues.


    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.
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    Jun 11, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.





    I assume no such thing, in fact, I think Mitt Romney is probably far more accepting of homosexuals than many here would have you believe. I presume he would probably say something like "God is the one to decide if homosexuality is a sin, but he did create them that way. Regardless, we are all sinners...so what's your point?". Mitt Romney is wisely shying away from this topic, for the moment at least, since the country has far more pressing issues that affect a great many more Americans than gay issues.


    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.


    How so?
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    Jun 11, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
    OldGeezer said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.





    I assume no such thing, in fact, I think Mitt Romney is probably far more accepting of homosexuals than many here would have you believe. I presume he would probably say something like "God is the one to decide if homosexuality is a sin, but he did create them that way. Regardless, we are all sinners...so what's your point?". Mitt Romney is wisely shying away from this topic, for the moment at least, since the country has far more pressing issues that affect a great many more Americans than gay issues.


    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.


    How so?


    Because religious beliefs have no business in governance. How are you going to use religion to stand up to science or the very simple fact that homosexuality is natural, when the argument for religion is that it's always right despite its lack of evidence.
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    Jun 11, 2011 7:45 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.



    That isn't a point, it's an assumption. I would argue that most Presidents, if they are religious people, rely on their religious beliefs to guide them every day. That does NOT mean that is necessarily going to be a bad thing for gays. There are many religious people, and I believe Romney to be one of them, who are not anti-gay.
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    Jun 11, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.



    That isn't a point, it's an assumption. I would argue that most Presidents, if they are religious people, rely on their religious beliefs to guide them every day. That does NOT mean that is necessarily going to be a bad thing for gays. There are many religious people, and I believe Romney to be one of them, who are not anti-gay.


    This is just a ridiculous argument. The reality is, he didn't want to say so not of offend anybody.. the religious right wingers who he is struggling to get anyway, the independents who want someone open minded or the progressive democrats, who probably won't vote for him, but he might scrape out a vote or two. Period.
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    catfish5 said
    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.



    I would argue that most Presidents, if they are religious people, rely on their religious beliefs to guide them every day. That does NOT mean that is necessarily going to be a bad thing for gays. There are many religious people, and I believe Romney to be one of them, who are not anti-gay.


    I agree with this part of your post. So why won't he answer the question? A simple: Homosexuality is NOT a sin!
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    Jun 11, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    OldGeezer said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Mepark saidWhy would he ask him if "homosexuality is a sin?"



    Because Pier Morgan is an irritating twit who thrives on trying to make his guests uncomfortable with inanely probing questions. "Do you think homosexuality is a sin" is clearly a gotcha question. Would he ask this same queston to Barrack Obama? I doubt it. If he did, I'm not even sure Obama would answer it, because it's an unfair question.


    You obviously assume Romney thinks homosexuality is a sin. Why?
    He hasn't answered the question. Maybe Romney thinks homosexuals are born homosexuals AND that God is a homosexual.





    I assume no such thing, in fact, I think Mitt Romney is probably far more accepting of homosexuals than many here would have you believe. I presume he would probably say something like "God is the one to decide if homosexuality is a sin, but he did create them that way. Regardless, we are all sinners...so what's your point?". Mitt Romney is wisely shying away from this topic, for the moment at least, since the country has far more pressing issues that affect a great many more Americans than gay issues.


    The point is that Romney clearly lets his religion beliefs guide him in his decision making processes. His beliefs on homosexuality, therefore, become pertinent to voters.


    How so?


    Because religious beliefs have no business in governance. How are you going to use religion to stand up to science or the very simple fact that homosexuality is natural, when the argument for religion is that it's always right despite its lack of evidence.


    You kinda missed my point. How did ROMNEY let religion influence his decision making?