Anonymous Antifascist hacks white pride websites. Leaks email in which Boston Police go out of their way to provide them with a venue to express hate.

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    Jun 09, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    http://ghostofvanzetti.net/blog/2011/06/anonymous-anti-fascists-hack-several-white-supremacist-websites-including-newp-org/
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    Jun 09, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
    Is the website a white supremacist website or just a white pride website?
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    Jun 09, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidIs the website a white supremacist website or just a white pride website?


    as far as I'm concerned, they're the same thing. The only good fascist is a dead fascist.

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    Jun 09, 2011 9:09 PM GMT
    Yikes!
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    Jun 09, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
    Well their forums (newp) are off limits to non-members, but they do have a selection of wallpapers available. I'll let you make the decision on whether they are "white pride" or "white supremacists".


    I'll go ahead and save you from having to click the link. They're all neo-nazi backdrops.
    http://newp.org/index.php?action=media;sa=album;in=10
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    Jun 09, 2011 9:30 PM GMT
    im sorry my man, i see no issue with the boston police being proactive about stopping violence for an event where there has been a history of violent attacks. this is where i live and if any group wants to express themselves then i want them to be able to do it without me getting run over while i walk down the street minding my own business. i have no tolerance for white supremacy (or black or asian or whatever) but if these events are going to happen (and they are going to happen) i am glad that the boston police are doing what they can to keep good order on the streets. i dont see the scandal.
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    Jun 09, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidIs the website a white supremacist website or just a white pride website?


    as far as I'm concerned, they're the same thing. The only good fascist is a dead fascist.



    Okay, I guess that makes a gay pride website the same as a gay supremacist website.

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    Jun 09, 2011 9:46 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidIs the website a white supremacist website or just a white pride website?


    as far as I'm concerned, they're the same thing. The only good fascist is a dead fascist.



    Okay, I guess that makes a STRAIGHT pride website the same as a STRAIGHT supremacist website.



    fixed!
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    Jun 09, 2011 9:50 PM GMT
    dayumm said
    mocktwinkie said
    fountains said
    mocktwinkie saidIs the website a white supremacist website or just a white pride website?


    as far as I'm concerned, they're the same thing. The only good fascist is a dead fascist.



    Okay, I guess that makes a STRAIGHT pride website the same as a STRAIGHT supremacist website.



    fixed!


    Yep, pretty much the same difference. Although whites are a world minority and do not always form "majorities" except for within their traditional homelands. Straight people are overwhelmingly a world majority
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    Jun 09, 2011 9:52 PM GMT
    Not really surprising... the Federal Government has a 'complicated' relationship with white supremacists, and, for that matter, many radical hate-mongering divisive ideology-oriented groups.

    for example, here's a little gem that escaped national attention of any sort:

    "Neo-Nazi rally was organized by FBI informant"
    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-02-15/news/MHATE15_1_fbi-white-supremacists-national-socialist-movement

    "A paid FBI informant was the man behind a neo-Nazi march through the streets of Parramore that stirred up anxiety in Orlando's black community and fears of racial unrest that triggered a major police mobilization."

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    Jun 09, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
    fountains said
    mocktwinkie saidIs the website a white supremacist website or just a white pride website?


    as far as I'm concerned, they're the same thing. The only good fascist is a dead fascist.



    There you go... Fight hate with hate! What a moron.

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    Jun 09, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    I agree that white pride is ok, white people have a lot of things to be proud of:

    Slavery, oppression, genocide, racism, bigotry, etc.

    Oh wait...these are human things...
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    Jun 09, 2011 10:01 PM GMT
    I think the point is that the sheer majority of "white pride" groups are merely coded fronts for a much more sinister, bigoted agenda.

    There is nothing wrong with having pride in your heritage, but lets at least be honest about what we're talking about. If I Google Spanish, Italian, German, or Irish "pride" I know I'm probably going to see images and text of traditions in culture, industry, music and fashion because they are actual cultures. Google white pride and you get skin heads, neo-confederacy and neo-nazi groups. It's not an accident.
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    Jun 09, 2011 10:25 PM GMT
    White pride is okay. People have a right to be proud that they are white. When I was president of my high school I twisted the principals arm to get him to approve the creation of a white student union. Nobody joined it but I still wanted it to be there for the white kids just as a matter of fairness. As much as we talk about white privilege, minorities have certain privileges as well like being able to say things or make jokes at white people's expense that would not go as well the other way around. We can also be publicly proud of who we are without people judging us for it.

    When society consistently validates my expression of pride as a black guy but excludes a white guy from doing the same....its almost sending out a message that there is something wrong or shameful about being white. It's almost and idea that the history of white people is so bad that they are supposed to be punished with some sort of shame that they must carry forever. White people also get excluded from entitlement programs and all that good stuff. Fuck being poor and (insert race here) trying being poor and white, tucked away in some small town in the mountains somewhere where no one cares about you. If had more melanin they would care, but you're white so helping you just doesn't seem as glamorous.

    A lot of white supremacists are just oppressed white people who are acting out because they feel helpless. Maybe if we actually tried to help them instead of just demonizing or making fun of them, their numbers would fall, but as long as America discriminates against poor white people these groups will continue to thrive. We really need to learn to look at socio-economics instead of color. We could solve a lot of problems that way.
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    Jun 09, 2011 10:27 PM GMT
    Chainers saidI agree that white pride is ok, white people have a lot of things to be proud of:

    Slavery, oppression, genocide, racism, bigotry, etc.

    Oh wait...these are human things...


    Yep, every nationality and ethnicity and creed is guilty of these things. Perhaps no one deserves to be proud of anything, lol.
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    Jun 09, 2011 10:30 PM GMT
    dekiruman saidWhite pride is okay. People have a right to be proud that they are white. When I was president of my high school I twisted the principals arm to get him to approve the creation of a white student union. Nobody joined it but I still wanted it to be there for the white kids just as a matter of fairness. As much as we talk about white privilege, minorities have certain privileges as well like being able to say things or make jokes at white people's expense that would not go as well the other way around. We can also be publicly proud of who we are without people judging us for it.

    When society consistently validates my expression of pride as a black guy but excludes a white guy from doing the same....its almost sending out a message that there is something wrong or shameful about being white. It's almost and idea that the history of white people is so bad that they are supposed to be punished with some sort of shame that they must carry forever. White people also get excluded from entitlement programs and all that good stuff. Fuck being poor and (insert race here) trying being poor and white, tucked away in some small town in the mountains somewhere where no one cares about you. If had more melanin they would care, but you're white so helping you just doesn't seem as glamorous.

    A lot of white supremacists are just oppressed white people who are acting out because they feel helpless. Maybe if we actually tried to help them instead of just demonizing or making fun of them, their numbers would fall, but as long as America discriminates against poor white people these groups will continue to thrive. We really need to learn to look at socio-economics instead of color. We could solve a lot of problems that way.


    Pretty interesting and neat perspective.
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    Jun 09, 2011 10:42 PM GMT
    dekiruman saidWhite pride is okay. People have a right to be proud that they are white. When I was president of my high school I twisted the principals arm to get him to approve the creation of a white student union. Nobody joined it but I still wanted it to be there for the white kids just as a matter of fairness. As much as we talk about white privilege, minorities have certain privileges as well like being able to say things or make jokes at white people's expense that would not go as well the other way around. We can also be publicly proud of who we are without people judging us for it.

    When society consistently validates my expression of pride as a black guy but excludes a white guy from doing the same....its almost sending out a message that there is something wrong or shameful about being white. It's almost and idea that the history of white people is so bad that they are supposed to be punished with some sort of shame that they must carry forever. White people also get excluded from entitlement programs and all that good stuff. Fuck being poor and (insert race here) trying being poor and white, tucked away in some small town in the mountains somewhere where no one cares about you. If had more melanin they would care, but you're white so helping you just doesn't seem as glamorous.

    A lot of white supremacists are just oppressed white people who are acting out because they feel helpless. Maybe if we actually tried to help them instead of just demonizing or making fun of them, their numbers would fall, but as long as America discriminates against poor white people these groups will continue to thrive. We really need to learn to look at socio-economics instead of color. We could solve a lot of problems that way.


    dude. nail on the fucking head. the idea of the racist boston towny isnt at all accurate cuz when it comes down to it ill be sitting at a divey bar listening to these guys saying the typical stuff youd exepct to hear - our neighborhoods arent the same, cant go to the corner store without a spanish to english dictionary ect ect - but then when some guy comes in and sits down - black spanish brazilian whatever - and starts a conversation about his job as a machinist - landscaper - whatever - they get along. my dad isnt mad at some working class guy whos trying to make his life better and is doing the right thing..hes mad at people who abuse government benefits and are loud and ignorant - regardless of race. trust - he doesnt like the white junkies i grew up with in the same way he doesnt like the black welfare mom popping out kids for more EBT in the same way he doesnt like the rich people who went into the neighborhoods he grew up in and turned them into places where none of the people who grew up their can afford to live.
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    Jun 09, 2011 10:46 PM GMT
    Most of these people know that they are just pathetic loosers who have talked themselves to into thinking they are better than than the President of the US, and 90% of the world population, just because their skin is white. It has nothing to do with pride, just well deserved self hatred.
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    Jun 09, 2011 11:37 PM GMT
    I see where dekiruman is coming from.

    I know how easy it is in America to openly mock whites. I do know that there can be government-sanctioned preferential treatment towards non-whites.

    But white pride still feels different to me because black pride, latino pride, etc. are reactionary feelings. These are people were made to feel ashamed of their background and who still witness, to this day, attacks on their race/cultural background.

    White pride historically stems from white supremacy.

    I would love to see all this pride, white, black, gay, southern, etc. come to a halt. Probably won't happen soon as we continue to divide our society into little tribes of special interests.

    Pride stands in the way of development.