McCain created a monster: the emails prove it!

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    Jun 11, 2011 4:05 PM GMT
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56750.html
    She was hands-on and averse to partisan politics. She championed openness in government and had normal relations with the media. She was a little starstruck by her interactions with national politicians but unafraid to do battle with the chief executives of the world’s largest oil companies.

    The emails from her governorship, released Friday, brought back the memory of a long-lost Palin: the popular, charismatic, competent woman of the people.

    This was the vice presidential candidate John McCain’s team thought they were getting, before her darker tendencies — defensiveness, thin skin, grudge-keeping — hardened into tics. Together with the newly released, pro-Palin documentary “The Undefeated,” which focuses on her rise to the spotlight, the emails are reminders of a sympathetic figure who was not yet the brittle, divisive caricature Palin has become.


    Maybe it wasn't all his fault:

    same articleThat’s not to say the picture of Palin is all rosy. She whines constantly about her treatment by the press. She uses subterfuge to manipulate her image, ghostwriting a letter to the editor praising her, for instance, or conducting a phony television interview in which she reads answers from a teleprompter.

    She increasingly sees enemies all around, repeatedly demanding to know whether her privacy has been breached. In one case, it turns out her husband Todd, not a hacker, sent an email from one of her accounts. She convinces herself that rumors about her last pregnancy have been deliberately and maliciously spread by an enemy in the state Legislature.

    The seeds of the paranoia and belligerence that so prominently mark her current public persona are visible in early form. The chip is already firmly on Palin’s shoulder: “‘They’ said the same thing throughout my career — ‘too young’, ‘pregnant’, ‘kids’… ‘She won’t be able to do it’… This coming from good ol’ boys who don’t like change. And so far along in my career, we’ve proved them wrong at each turn,” she writes in March 2008.

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    Jun 11, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56750.html
    She was hands-on and averse to partisan politics. She championed openness in government and had normal relations with the media. She was a little starstruck by her interactions with national politicians but unafraid to do battle with the chief executives of the world’s largest oil companies.

    The emails from her governorship, released Friday, brought back the memory of a long-lost Palin: the popular, charismatic, competent woman of the people.

    This was the vice presidential candidate John McCain’s team thought they were getting, before her darker tendencies — defensiveness, thin skin, grudge-keeping — hardened into tics. Together with the newly released, pro-Palin documentary “The Undefeated,” which focuses on her rise to the spotlight, the emails are reminders of a sympathetic figure who was not yet the brittle, divisive caricature Palin has become.


    Maybe it wasn't all his fault:

    same articleThat’s not to say the picture of Palin is all rosy. She whines constantly about her treatment by the press. She uses subterfuge to manipulate her image, ghostwriting a letter to the editor praising her, for instance, or conducting a phony television interview in which she reads answers from a teleprompter.

    She increasingly sees enemies all around, repeatedly demanding to know whether her privacy has been breached. In one case, it turns out her husband Todd, not a hacker, sent an email from one of her accounts. She convinces herself that rumors about her last pregnancy have been deliberately and maliciously spread by an enemy in the state Legislature.

    The seeds of the paranoia and belligerence that so prominently mark her current public persona are visible in early form. The chip is already firmly on Palin’s shoulder: “‘They’ said the same thing throughout my career — ‘too young’, ‘pregnant’, ‘kids’… ‘She won’t be able to do it’… This coming from good ol’ boys who don’t like change. And so far along in my career, we’ve proved them wrong at each turn,” she writes in March 2008.



    "She increasingly sees enemies all around"

    She 'sees' correctly.
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    Jun 11, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    Now there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.
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    Jun 11, 2011 5:19 PM GMT
    "Sees" in the emails
    !=
    "Sees" now.

    Of course she's right now, having made many more enemies through her divisiveness. But then?
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    Jun 11, 2011 5:20 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    But can she revert all those unhelpful and divisive tics back to a normal self? icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 11, 2011 5:24 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    +1
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    Jun 11, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    Palin 2012!!!
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    Jun 11, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidPalin 2012!!!


    Canada 2012!

    (or Australia)
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    Jun 12, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    +1


    And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss.
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    Jun 12, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    "And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss."

    OldGeezer and CuriousJockAz, you know that feeling you get when you someone tells you that the greatest film of all time is 'Porkys 2'.....or 'Smokey and The Bandit' ???

    Or he tells you that "Sure John Lennon was okay....but Justin Bieber is the true master of modern song!".

    So you give his 'artist' another try. But all you hear is moronic nonsense.

    Well, I think to most Non Tea Partiers, that's how Sarah Palin comes across to us.
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    Jun 12, 2011 2:56 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss.


    Do let me know when or if I ever get down low enough to be at your level. I'll swing by and say hello icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 12, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    +1


    And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss.


    Exactly who is 'our' ?
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    OldGeezer said
    TigerTim said
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    +1


    And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss.


    Exactly who is 'our' ?



    You know...THEM icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    OK, so to be an average governor in the middle of her term, as revealed by redacted emails, is now considered to be a genius with vision.

    So to be a vindictive, doctrinaire caricature of a former office holder is now considered just average? icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    OldGeezer said
    TigerTim said
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    +1


    And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss.


    Exactly who is 'our' ?



    You know...THEM icon_rolleyes.gif


    I like these self anointed spokesgirls for ALL homos!
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/sarah-palin/8569680/Sarah-Palin-emails-Enemies-sent-a-series-of-death-threats.html

    Wonder how many of these came from gun hatin' RJers?
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    OldGeezer saidI like these self anointed spokesgirls for ALL homos!


    You don't deal well with ambiguity, do you?
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    Jun 12, 2011 9:29 PM GMT
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    OldGeezer said
    TigerTim said
    OldGeezer said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNow there's a woman with some vision!! icon_lol.gif

    I have actually found reading through the emails rather enlightening. Sarah Palin is far more impressive than even I gave her credit for. I think it's good these were made public so that people can at least see that this woman is no dummy. Underestimate her at your own peril.


    +1


    And our opinion of both of you is lowered a little further into the abyss.


    Exactly who is 'our' ?



    You know...THEM icon_rolleyes.gif


    I like these self anointed spokesgirls for ALL homos!

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    Ya Geezer I hear you about like'ing' those "spokesgirlds" I read where you like a certain "RealLife'MOM'" too. LOL !! but that someone forgave you for that indiscretion. But I digress !!

    Back to the point, will you two be voting for Palin over Romney for instance ? Tell us you wouldn't do that and embarass yourselves. Would you really want this woman representing the US on the world stage, when her gaffes come at a rate of at least two out of every three times she's interviewed. The most recent being her story about Paul Revere "warning the Brittish with bells and shots". Then the nut didn't even have the good judgement to correct herself, instead she tortured the story further with more revisions.
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    Jun 12, 2011 9:39 PM GMT
    I have no idea who I am voting for, mostly because Election Day is a long way off and all kinds of things are likely to change the landscape between now and then. There are always a few surprises along the way, and a major world event or two that puts things in a different perspective. I'm okay with Obama at the moment, but very open-minded to hear what other GOP candidates have to say. I would like to hear more what Romney, Huntsman, and Palin (if she runs) has to say
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    Jun 12, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI have no idea who I am voting for...

    I beg your pardon? You will vote who you are told to vote for, a Republican without question. If you claim to be voting for someone who's not a Republican, do tell us, so I can be proven wrong. But your choice will already have been made for you, you know it, and you'll be extolling his or her virtues here for months before November, 2012. Now please don't BS us anymore, OK?

    You'll be voting for the Republican Presidential candidate, whoever it is, without doubt. You wanna put some money on it? You ain't gonna be voting for Obama on the Democrat ticket, are you? End of discussion. icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 13, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
    The palin haters are losing this one, but good try

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100091820/american-way-sarah-palin-email-frenzy-backfires-on-her-media-antagonists/
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    Jun 13, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    All I know is that the entire state of Arizona erupted in flames as soon as Palin bought a house there.
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    Jun 13, 2011 5:47 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidAll I know is that the entire state of Arizona erupted in flames as soon as Palin bought a house there.


    I agree. That is certainly all you know.
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    Jun 13, 2011 6:10 AM GMT
    OldGeezer saidThe palin haters are losing this one, but good try

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100091820/american-way-sarah-palin-email-frenzy-backfires-on-her-media-antagonists/



    If the absence of any bombshells in the emails helps to boost Palin's candidacy, that's fine by me.
    Palin 2012!
    She'd be the second Repub based in AZ in a row to get beaten by Obama.
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    Jun 13, 2011 6:25 AM GMT
    There is an odd symbiosis between liberal commentators and Sarah Palin. What would they do without each other?