ARGHHHH! None of this makes sense anymore! Eat less! Eat more! Body training! NO CARBS! ALL I WANNA DO IS FRICKING LOSE WEIGHT FFS!!! But seriously. So over it.

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    Jun 12, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    I'm still so lost when it comes to weight loss. So far i've been eating a mandarin with wheatbicks, eggs on wholegrain toast. brown fried rice with egg n chicken breast. n two pieces of seared chicken for dinner n fruit here n there. BUT IM STILL ALWAYS HUNGRY! I swear if I eat more than 1500 calories I gain like a kilo! So i'm trying to lose weight, yet im still hungry, my meals are apart by 2 or 3 hours. And i'm hearing all different things... like I can't lose weight cuz i have too many carbs... ISNT EVERYTHING A CARB? All fruits n veg? Then I got told to lose weight you have to do body training as the muscles burn the calories for you... So I'm trying to eat less but I'm still so hungry... N im just so over it!
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    Jun 12, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    TL;DR thread title. Hello Stewie.
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    Jun 12, 2011 1:56 AM GMT
    More veggies, less fruit, no bread. That's what it took for me.
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    Jun 12, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    What's wrong with wholegrain bread thou? The stuffs amazing!
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    Jun 12, 2011 2:12 AM GMT
    Kristoff saidWhat's wrong with wholegrain bread thou? The stuffs amazing!
    Trial and error to find out how your body responds to different things.
    If your body stores carbs like mine, then bread is out.
    Also, finding bread that is not loaded with HFCS is a nightmare. That's why I gave up bread - got tired of reading labels for 30 minutes just to find that everything had HFCS in it.
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    Jun 12, 2011 7:41 AM GMT
    Fearthefalafel...TL;DR thread title. Hello Stewie.


    Your thread titles do make me laugh, just saying.
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    Jun 12, 2011 7:43 AM GMT
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    Jun 12, 2011 7:49 AM GMT
    A higher protein diet, weight training helps but takes time, cardio will help shed weight. You need to eat a lower calorie diet and produce a calorie deficit. It takes around 3550 calories to loose 1 pound of weight. The higher protein will keep you full longer but make sure you get a lot of fiber also and drink lots of water. Protein is harder for your body to digest. If you have muscles and want to preserve them, I would suggest lifting weights and doing some cardio but you’ll want to take in glutamine to help prevent catabolism, but if you don’t mind loosing muscle just do straight cardio then lift weights after to gain back some definition.
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    Jun 12, 2011 8:25 AM GMT
    Just forget about the high carb, low carb, bleh. All that really matters in the end is the total amount of calories, that's all. One of the problems with weight loss is that people make sweeping claims but don't substantiate them with any numbers. Like people say that caffeine is a diuretic so the water in tea or coffee doesn't count towards your daily total, sure that's technically true but not so much that you lose a whole cup of water. Similar with weight training, yeh you'll burn more calories if you have more muscle, but the amount isn't that high, even if you got absolutely stacked you'd only be able to eat like an extra 150 calories each day. Not that it's not great to gain muscle - it's just not going to siphon the fat off your body.

    By the way if it makes you feel any better, when I lost about 40 kilos I did it with more carbs, not less, I ate like 8 slices of wholegrain bread a day and the only thing that wasn't packed with carbs was the peanut butter on said bread. There's nothing wrong with wholegrain bread and you don't have to worry about HFCS like one poster said - that shit is only in the US, not Australia. Just make sure it's actually wholegrain, not this "9 grain" or "mixed grain" or "multigrain", that stuff is just white bread with 2% wholegrain in it.

    Some foods will fill you up better than others, things with fiber and protein do well. I've found potatos, oatmeal and beans fill me up better than anything else I've tried.

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    Jun 12, 2011 8:36 AM GMT
    russnipp said Like people say that caffeine is a diuretic so the water in tea or coffee doesn't count towards your daily total, sure that's technically true but not so much that you lose a whole cup of water.


    Water is a diuretic. If you keep drinking it, it makes you pee. The only drink that tends to have a net dehydrating effect on the body is alcohol.
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    Be more patient.
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:13 PM GMT
    Kristoff saidWhat's wrong with wholegrain bread thou? The stuffs amazing!



    So is cheesecake, but you can't lose weight if you insist on eating it. Getting off bread and pasta is very important if you want to lose weight. Try switiching to a lower carb/less fat whole wheat wraps instead of bread. If you can get off dairy other than FAT FREE skim milk, that will help too. Absolutely NO SODA POP, candy, or sweets.
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:14 PM GMT
    Kristoff saidWhat's wrong with wholegrain bread thou? The stuffs amazing!


    Who told you that, the Quaker Oats dude? Once you eliminate grains, oats and sugar, you will see an amazing difference.

    Wheat increases blood sugar higher than nearly all other foods.
    (Higher than Milky Way bars, higher than Snickers bars, higher than table sugar.)

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    Jun 12, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
    As I said in another thread, when you starve yourself, your body goes into survival mode and holds onto every bit of fat that it can. If you concentrate more on exercise (weight training is the best) or (go for a long walk 4 or 5 days a week), you will be able to eat well and not be hungry all the time. Cut out sodas and fast food. But, go ahead and eat.
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:54 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidAs I said in another thread, when you starve yourself, your body goes into survival mode and holds onto every bit of fat that it can. If you concentrate more on exercise (weight training is the best) or (go for a long walk 4 or 5 days a week), you will be able to eat well and not be hungry all the time. Cut out sodas and fast food. But, go ahead and eat.


    Definitely. Assuming that your body is healthy and functioning normally, it is the best indicator for maintaining a healthy caloric intake. If you're hungry, eat. Just make sure that you aren't short-changing your body by feeding it crap. And I would put whole grains/oats near the top of the crap list.
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    Jun 12, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
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    Kristoff saidWhat's wrong with wholegrain bread thou? The stuffs amazing!
    Trial and error to find out how your body responds to different things.
    If your body stores carbs like mine, then bread is out.
    Also, finding bread that is not loaded with HFCS is a nightmare. That's why I gave up bread - got tired of reading labels for 30 minutes just to find that everything had HFCS in it.


    this.

    Although I did get some odd looks at a BBQ recently when I just flopped a burger on my plate and ate it sans bun. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    I eat tons of pasta and I like cheesecake. Is nothing sacred?
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:11 PM GMT
    I lost 40 lbs by eating soup and salad, veggies, seafood, chicken breast and an occasional filet mignon. And I had to cut out ALL BREAD and most fruit for about 20 days before I started to see and feel the results. It's like my body went into a different mode, I wasn't hungry nearly as much and I got full sooner and the weight seemed to pour off week by week. No bread. No pasta. I ate cereal for breakfast and that was my only carb for the day. Because our bodies are different, some people burn fat quicker than others. Unless your doing a workout where you're burning 1000 calories per day, it will take you a little longer if you're not one of the fortunate. Be patient and take it day by day.
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    and here we have it.. contradictions in the advice thread.... one thing though: you eat lots of bread and fruit and you won´t get thin....

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    Jun 12, 2011 6:45 PM GMT
    You should be getting SOME fruit unless you're already at a low BF% and want to break a plateau (lots of different opinions here). Keep in mind that not all fruits are created equal though.
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:46 PM GMT
    why do you need fruit? What essential vitamin or nutrient is found only in fruit that cannot be found elsewhere?

    Name it or shut up.
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    Looking at the OP again, you need to stop thinking calories and start thinking hormonal reaction to food...
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:50 PM GMT
    You need to do your research.
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    Jun 12, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    Gaydar saidYou need to do your research.


    name it. Or shut it.
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    Jun 12, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
    Why do we eat meat? Why do we eat veggies? Why do we eat anything? Let's all just take supplements to take care of the vitamins and minerals we need. Great idea!

    I never said to live off fruit. A little bit of some fruits can be very healthy for you.

    To the OP: My advice is to stay as natural as you can. You may want to look up the Paleo diet. Paulflexes uses it I believe.

    You should do research on how your metabolism works and use trial and error to determine what your body's metab is like. If you're gaining weight while eating more than 1500 calories then you're probably starving yourself and your body is trying to adapt like so. Avoid being hungy and on top of that, exercise!