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Do any of you guys supplement your levels of testosterone? What have been your experiences and what have you used? Next time I see the doc I'm going to ask about it but I wanted to get some advice from guys that have upped their testosterone levels first hand.

are you out of your ever loving mind??? dont be fuking with your hormones. Unless you have a hypotestosterone MEDICAL condition, dont be messin' with your testosterone.

Caslon saidare you out of your ever loving mind??? dont be fuking with your hormones. Unless you have a hypotestosterone MEDICAL condition, dont be messin' with your testosterone.

Actually, Caslon, the medical term is "hypogonadism"

Whatever!

Go play on Freerice.com

You're 20, with a full head of hair, growing a beard three inches below your prominent brow ridge and you're asking about testosterone?

The testosterone will give you a lean muscle edge once you increase your dosage. You'll have to manage that by cycling, since your body will automatically metabolize the hormone to achieve a balance closer to your body's average testosterone level by converting the testosterone to a form of estrogen.

The side-effects are numerous. A source, with a balanced discussion, is here: http://ezinearticles.com/?Testosterone-Side-Effects&id=353760

thanks Mickey!

I should probably tell everyone I'm not planning on going T crazy or anything. Just wondering if a small boost would be okay for me.

checkthefridge saidthanks Mickey!

I should probably tell everyone I'm not planning on going T crazy or anything. Just wondering if a small boost would be okay for me.

Have you recently had blood work done? If so, did the doc mention anything about you having a supressed blood testosterone levels?

Like everyone has said already: Be very careful when messing with hormones. Too high a concentration of one hormone can very easily suppress the production of another...endocrine functions are no joke!

best of luck to ya

checkthefridge saidthanks Mickey!

I should probably tell everyone I'm not planning on going T crazy or anything. Just wondering if a small boost would be okay for me.

What the hell am I? A potted plant ...

Wow, a discussion on testosterone? Someone's kind and thoughtful input seems to be missing from this thread.

Caslon saidWhatever!

Go play on Freerice.com

If you are going to play expert on something, get your terminology right. It's a simple thing to to at your age.

well tecnicley ( wow i cant spell)

if you get regularly made hormones though artificial sources, you body recognizes that your getting your hormones from outside sources, and thus shuts down hormone production... so the place where your testosterone is made will shut down.

aka your balls shrink.



damn biology....

Why do you need it in the first place?

checkthefridge saidDo any of you guys supplement your levels of testosterone? What have been your experiences and what have you used? Next time I see the doc I'm going to ask about it but I wanted to get some advice from guys that have upped their testosterone levels first hand.

When you get your blood work, ask him for your total testosterone, free test (if the lab does it), LH (leutinizing hormone), and FSH (follicle stimulating hormone). All of those hormones are essential in your testosterone production, and you should have those checked regularly. Normal testosterone levels can be between 250-1000 ng/ml, an LH should be no lower than 2 (possibly 2.4..I don't have a chart in front of me).

You can have low test and normal LH level, and vice versa, and be considered to have hypogonadism. So depending on your doctor's experience with endocrinology, he or she may determine you need supplemental test or, if your LH is low, stimulation of that hormone.

If your lab does it, and your doc orders it, you can also request your estradiol (estrogren) levels. Those should be low.

Bro,

Seriously take what most of these guys have said to heart. At 20 yrs old your testosterone is through the rough and rising naturally until about 25 years old. Guys can even continue to grow until about that age. The big problem with hitting the testosterone now is that it can end up permanently hosing your bodies own natural chemical balance. At your age, unless there is a serious medical illness you can get the results of a 40 yr steroid user through careful diet and relentless training. For your own sake don't fu*k up your bodies natural balance at this point, let your testosterone continue to rise naturally.

By the way most supplements that boost testosterone have big time side effects. I tried one at one point and I could hardly sleep even with sleeping pills for about 3 weeks. Not fun, not healthy! Not worth it bro.

Caslon saidare you out of your ever loving mind??? dont be fuking with your hormones. Unless you have a hypotestosterone MEDICAL condition, dont be messin' with your testosterone.

Down boy...be nice now.

Caslon said
What the hell am I? A potted plant ...

I see you as an azalea.

a word of advice about taking hormones

...be Very careful

do most guys have any trouble?
probably not but hormones esp sex hormones have a way of messing things up sometimes
make sure that you test your level before taking them

the human body is very lazy when it comes to synthesizing hormones and it monitors levels all the time

if it senses that you're Testosterone levels are too high it'll say "whew" okay that job's done
and stop making it
so you'll see a huge drop off after you take it and finish your cycle

at your age why play with matches

Work hard for your muscles. Where's the accomplishment if you take extra testosterone? You may as well get implants. You'll look just as ridiculous.

I should also mention that should you desire to ignore the advice given here and do this anyway, you should damn well know very, very well what you are doing. Knowing what you are doing is not comprised of listening to the local meathead on roids at the gym.

For one thing a very common side effect of administering extra testosterone is that body converts part of it to estrogen and you end up with gynecomastia (in bodybuilder terminology bitch tits). There are enzymes in your body that try to keep things in balance and those enzymes easily convert testosterone to estrogen.

Before you would even dream of touching the testosterone you should know what to take if you start feeling painful or puffy nipples, you should know how to take it, and you should have it on hand to start immediately. Often times if gyno is left go for too long the only way to get rid of it is through surgery.

Also anytime your body senses more testosterone then usual it will negatively effect your HPTA (Hypothalmic, Pituitary-gonadal axis) which is a system of several glands in the brain and body that control several major hormones. So if you play with the testosterone you should have a big bank account for things HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) and other real nice injections you will need to restart your HPTA glands, because they will have shut down with the excess testosterone.

Rather then just giving you the lecture about the risks, I thought you should know a few things about why its risky and the huge expense in having a multitude of additional drugs on hand to deal with the side effects. Incidentally most of the drugs have pretty significant side effects themselves. Playing with your bodies natural hormone balance is not a fools errand. Be careful and make sure you know what the hell you're doing should you decide to not heed the advice here. I just can't picture you as a bald C cup.

Good luck bro.

eb925guy said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]are you out of your ever loving mind??? dont be fuking with your hormones. Unless you have a hypotestosterone MEDICAL condition, dont be messin' with your testosterone.

Down boy...be nice now.

I was being nice...the nicest one could be...trying to get someone not to make a big mistake.

Since I have had my testosterone fiddled with...albeit in the opposite direction....I know how fucked up a person can get.

Just leave it alone....if it aint broke, dont fix it.

I will share my testosterone story.

Chapter 1, I lost my left testicle to acute scrotal avulsion (read having it ripped off of my body mechanically) in an automobile accident when I was 15 years old.

Chapter 2, The treatment I received as the dependent of a retired military officer, was good for the trauma and non-existent for the management of hormonal (or any other consequences).

Chapter 3. This f--ked me up emotionally and hormonally. I didn't even talk about until I was twenty, was convinced I was a monster and no one would ever look at me, and so on. I eventually got into therapy and the therapist got me to an endocrinologist.

Chapter 4, They diagnosed hypogonadism and put me on testosterone supplements (injections of testosterone cypionate).

Chapter 5, That worked, my weight normalized, I had good energy, and I started going to the gym.

Chapter 6, I am American, and Texan so I thought if a little is good then a lot is better.

Chapter 7, I never took a "lot" by the standards of bodybuilding but for my body it was probably too much.

Chapter 8, moved to Europe and the docs said, "we don't supplement testosterone period, it is against the law".

Chapter 9, cold turkey, weight soars from 85kg to 130kg in about 2 years.

Chapter 10, scrotal abscess (ironic huh) nearly kills me (maybe within minutes of sepcis) and the resulting bloodwork shows my blood glucose at 330, tryglicerides at 670, and so on.

Chapter 11, F--k, F--k, F--k, F--k, F--k, F--k,

Chapter 12, Radical change of lifestyle, slow work on everything surrounding, still no testosterone (because they still won't do it), but they do put together a thorough medication regime.

Chapter 13, Bloodwork normal again, testosterone low normal (naturally).

Chapter 14, Two years of unbelievable hard work and weight goes from 130kg back to 85 (as it is now).

Chapter 15, I am 44 and have already had all of these problems so I know I have to manage well or die.

Conclusion.

We are hormones. When you f--k with your hormones, even under precise medical supervision, the result is unpredictable. This is tantamount to f--king with who we are.

No one had better medical reasons than I did for testosterone augmentation. It still wasn't worth it.

Good luck
Terry

LatinMuscleSF said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]Whatever!

Go play on Freerice.com

If you are going to play expert on something, get your terminology right. It's a simple thing to to at your age.[/quote]

hypotestostone is the more exact word for this discussion. Maybe when you get to my age, you will have learned the word.

you won't be the only dude who has ever tried juicing. half the guys at the gym who have bodies you drool over have tried it. most fitness models do it...whatever..one cycle isn't going to kill you.

the problem is, you won't be happy with one cycle. you'll see how easy it is and a year after you've gone off of it, you'll be thinking about trying it again. continuing to use it may kill you.

The other thing is, a lot of the gains you make while you're on it will be awesome, but as soon as you cycle off, you're gonna lose most of it.

I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying I wouldn't do it.

I'm also saying you have a pretty hot lean body. I'd hit that in a minute

I'm sorry that happened to you Terry. Thanks for the story. It's a good lesson for anyone thinking of supplementing testosterone. You've obviously been through hell. You need a hug.

The last time I went to Europe I almost missed my flight to Venice, I was in the wrong seat.

Thanks John, you said you had a sense of humor so I thought I would give it a whirl

John43620 saidI'm sorry that happened to you Terry. Thanks for the story. It's a good lesson for anyone thinking of supplementing testosterone. You've obviously been through hell. You need a hug.

The last time I went to Europe I almost missed my flight to Venice, I was in the wrong seat.

HAHAHAHAHA!

(not at Terry, but, with John)

Caslon said[quote][cite]LatinMuscleSF said[/cite][quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]Whatever!

Go play on Freerice.com

If you are going to play expert on something, get your terminology right. It's a simple thing to to at your age.[/quote]

hypotestostone is the more exact word for this discussion. Maybe when you get to my age, you will have learned the word.[/quote]

"Hypotestosterone" isn't even a word, my friend. If you are going to spout off and be so self-indignant about the OP's question, get your words right. At least give the OP the right word so he can look it up for himself.

Chuckystud was always wittering on about testosterone and look what happened to him!

Did you say wittering or withering? Withering heights.

redheadguy saidChuckystud was always wittering on about testosterone and look what happened to him!

Cycles are like potato chips. Most people say they are just going to do one........

checkthefridge saidDo any of you guys supplement your levels of testosterone? What have been your experiences and what have you used? Next time I see the doc I'm going to ask about it but I wanted to get some advice from guys that have upped their testosterone levels first hand.

In case you are wondering why so many posters here have advised against it, maybe you should know a little how your endocrine system works in rgeards to testosterone.

Your hormones operate on a "negative feedback loop" system, which basically means your body will try to keep its hormone levels balanced. If your body notices you are receiving external (exogenous) testosterone, it will shut down production of natural (endogenous) testosterone. This isn't too big of an issue as long as you are getting exogenous test. If you stop, however, after about three weeks the testosterone will be cleared from your body, and you will neither have endogenous or exogenous test. Your levels will plummet, and the side effects can range from depression, lethargy, loss of muscle, loss of libido, impotence. It may take your body's own natural production weeks or even months to "start up", unless you do a regimen to kick-start it sooner.

of course the other danger of exogenous testosterone, depending on your endocrine system, is that it may aromatize (convert to estrogen). Men do need a small amout of estrogen in their bodies, but large amounts of test can cause too much aromatization, and can lead to accumulation of adipose (fat) tissue around the hips, mood swings, and at worst, gynecomastia ("bitch tits").

Of course it doesn't hurt to get bloodwork done and see where your test levels are now. they should be fairly high at your age. Test levels start to drop around 30, and keep dropping
as you age. But unless your blood work reveals a deficiency in your production of your leutnizing hormone (LH), or your total test level is hovering on the low side, you probably don't need it, unless your doctor feels you should be taking some. if he feels that way, I'd ask to get referred to an endocrinologist for a more expert opinion.

LatinMuscleSF said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite][quote][cite]LatinMuscleSF said[/cite][quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]Whatever!

Go play on Freerice.com

If you are going to play expert on something, get your terminology right. It's a simple thing to to at your age.[/quote]

hypotestostone is the more exact word for this discussion. Maybe when you get to my age, you will have learned the word.[/quote]

"Hypotestosterone" isn't even a word, my friend. If you are going to spout off and be so self-indignant about the OP's question, get your words right. So obviously, at your age, you haven't learned enough about the hormone to get the terminology correct.[/quote]

This is just one instance I pulled up...

Complications
The majority of XXY males do not produce enough sperm for fertility. XXY males also have a higher risk of autoimmune diseases (e.g., type 1 diabetes mellitus, lupus erythematosus, and thyroiditis); this risk is correlated with lower testosterone and higher estrogen levels. Other hypotheses suggest lymphocyte irregularities. Patients with hypotestosterone may encounter the onset of osteoporosis later in life, and bone mineral density has been found to be 12% to 15% lower than normal.

http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&page=8_1817.htm

...and this is my last reply to you. I am not going on about this with you.

Caslon said[quote][cite]LatinMuscleSF said[/cite][quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite][quote][cite]LatinMuscleSF said[/cite][quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]Whatever!

Go play on Freerice.com

If you are going to play expert on something, get your terminology right. It's a simple thing to to at your age.[/quote]

hypotestostone is the more exact word for this discussion. Maybe when you get to my age, you will have learned the word.[/quote]

"Hypotestosterone" isn't even a word, my friend. If you are going to spout off and be so self-indignant about the OP's question, get your words right. So obviously, at your age, you haven't learned enough about the hormone to get the terminology correct.[/quote]

This is just one instance I pulled up...

Complications
The majority of XXY males do not produce enough sperm for fertility. XXY males also have a higher risk of autoimmune diseases (e.g., type 1 diabetes mellitus, lupus erythematosus, and thyroiditis); this risk is correlated with lower testosterone and higher estrogen levels. Other hypotheses suggest lymphocyte irregularities. Patients with hypotestosterone may encounter the onset of osteoporosis later in life, and bone mineral density has been found to be 12% to 15% lower than normal.

http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&page=8_1817.htm

...and this is my last reply to you. I am not going on about this with you.[/quote]

Hmmm...WebMD..nothing called hypotestosterone...
Dictionary.com...nothing
Wikipedia...nothing.

Geez, just admit you're wrong. If you are going to give advice, use correct terminology so others can look it up.

I have had my testosterone checked twice because I have suffered from a low sex drive at times, and I thought it was due to my HIV (that is a common problem for people with HIV). The tests came back normal so I have never taken additional testosterone. I would never take it to make myself more "ripped", it is too dangerous. I think my low sex drive has more likely been caused by mild depression and insomnia. It is hard to be interested in sex when you are trying to cope on 2 hours sleep.

Chapter 10, scrotal abscess (ironic huh) nearly kills me (maybe within minutes of sepcis) and the resulting bloodwork shows my blood glucose at 330, tryglicerides at 670, and so on.

Glad you did not get sepcis. My dad went into septic shock on his 80th birthday (it happened during the night) and he died 10 days later. When I went into the intensive care to visit him I barely recognized him. His whole body was bloated due to the sepcis. Very unpleasant way to die.

Options to restore erectile function
If ED is related to a physiologic factor that makes erection physically impossible, some treatments are not likely to prove therapeutic. However, dysfunction caused by decreased arterial flow to the penis secondary to a condition such as diabetes may be treated successfully with an oral agent, testosterone replacement therapy, or use of a vacuum constrictive device. Therapy selection is based on the initial workup, the cause of the patient's ED, contraindications, and patient preference. Choice of therapy for ED is not typically disease-specific except as in ED secondary to hypotestosterone.

The association of hypotestosteronemia with coronary artery disease in men

Copyright © 1994 American Heart Association. All rights reserved. Print ISSN: 1079-5642. Online ISSN:
7272 Greenville Avenue, Dallas, TX 72514
Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology is published by the American Heart Association.
Arterioscler. Thromb. Vasc. Biol. 1994;14;701-706
GB Phillips, BH Pinkernell and TY Jing

I miss Chucky...

karlaban saidI miss Chucky...

so do I.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

he would have taken care of this ...

Caslon said[quote][cite]karlaban said[/cite]I miss Chucky...

so do I.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

he would have taken care of this ... [/quote]

Yeah...he would agree with me.

"Low testosterone is also known as hypogonadism and affects an estimated 13 million men in the U.S. Symptoms of low testosterone in men include decreased libido, erectile dysfunction, loss of body and facial hair, weakened bones, increased body fat, and fatigue." - WebMD

"Medically, the condition is known as hypogonadism -- the underproduction of testosterone in the testes -- but it's commonly referred to as "male menopause." This drop in testosterone is accompanied by a decrease in sex drive and sexual dysfunction; a decline in physical energy, strength, and stamina; more aches and pains in the bones and joints; and less initiative and mental aggressiveness. In short, says Shippen, the aging process accelerates." http://men.webmd.com/features/keep-testosterone-in-balance

'Nuff said!

LatinMuscleSF said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]are you out of your ever loving mind??? dont be fuking with your hormones. Unless you have a hypotestosterone MEDICAL condition, dont be messin' with your testosterone.

Actually, Caslon, the medical term is "hypogonadism"

"Low testosterone is also known as hypogonadism "

"Medically, the condition is known as hypogonadism ..."

LMSF, what you are confusing is that there is more than one term in use for low testosterone.

Hypotestosterone is a perfectly legitimate word and I used it correctly. Your jumping in and "correcting" me was totally out of place and rude. The "Chucky" in this situation is you.

So just BUTT OUT of telling others how they must post...especially when you are wrong.

--------------------------------------------------

—Alleged marginal note by Churchill, 27 February 1944, to a priggish civil servant's memo objecting to the ending of sentences with prepositions.

"This is the kind of pedantic nonsense up with which I will not put!"

I still think you're azalea.

mickeytopogigio saidI still think you're azalea.

go ahead, mickey....keep pushing it....

mickeytopogigio saidI still think you're azalea.

and I think you're a fuchsia...so there! ....

And that, children, is how the Famous Fabulous Flaming Flower Fight got started. ...any questions? ....

All inflamatory comments aside...

I have been on topical testosterone for about 3 years due to hypo-testo-gonad-(my balls don't make enough-ism.

Most family practice doctors will test you and call you normal based on the lab work's "normal" range supplied with the results. Unfortunately, the normal range applies to 18 - 75 years olds. An endocrinologist or urologist will be better qualified to determine if you are normal for your age.

My partner, on the other hand, lost most of his testicles to cancer about 12 years ago and has been on topical testosterone for the entire time.
Neither one of us has ever abused it to the point of raising levels to achieve excess muscle gains, but when your levels are normal, you definitely have more energy, better sex drive, and generally a better outlook altogether.

While I admit I have thought about injections to increase muscle mass and could get it here in Europe (walk-in any pharmacy in Turkey, for example), it just doesn't seem worth it. I have seen guys in the gym who blew themselves up so huge they could barely hold their arms at their sides in a few months only to have it shrink away after they cycled off. In the long term, the gains are impossible to maintain and when you finally have to stop cycling due to finances, disease, or lack of interest, you'll hit a very harsh wall of fat and malaise.

JustJohn saidAll inflamatory comments aside...

I have been on topical testosterone for about 3 years due to hypo-testo-gonad-(my balls don't make enough-ism.

Most family practice doctors will test you and call you normal based on the lab work's "normal" range supplied with the results. Unfortunately, the normal range applies to 18 - 75 years olds. An endocrinologist or urologist will be better qualified to determine if you are normal for your age.

My partner, on the other hand, lost most of his testicles to cancer about 12 years ago and has been on topical testosterone for the entire time.
Neither one of us has ever abused it to the point of raising levels to achieve excess muscle gains, but when your levels are normal, you definitely have more energy, better sex drive, and generally a better outlook altogether.

While I admit I have thought about injections to increase muscle mass and could get it here in Europe (walk-in any pharmacy in Turkey, for example), it just doesn't seem worth it. I have seen guys in the gym who blew themselves up so huge they could barely hold their arms at their sides in a few months only to have it shrink away after they cycled off. In the long term, the gains are impossible to maintain and when you finally have to stop cycling due to finances, disease, or lack of interest, you'll hit a very harsh wall of fat and malaise.

Walk in pharmacy to get steroids how cool. I mean oh no that is bad LOL. I do think that it makes more since than black marketing and then it could be taxed which is always good haha.

On a real note, at 20 you simply do not need it. If you ever learn how to eat right and workout right you should be able to make great gains in the gym all natural. Half the people juicing still do not know how to do those two things which are essential to building a better body. Leave it alone until you can conclude that medically you need it or until you reach about 30 years old. It is that simple really.

After living these months without any testosterone, I can tell you messing with hormones is bad news.

I could have testosterone-therapy...the gel or patch...but I figure that would just mess up my body's normal resumption of testosterone production. So the best thing is just live thru it.

I guess I am about at 50% normal....my chest hair has grown back and muscle mass is increasing...i can hardly wait for it all to be back.

Dont mess with your hormones...be happy with what your body decides you need...anthing else is bad news.

"Low testosterone is also known as hypogonadism"

This is not correct. Hypogonadism is a condition of which reduced testosterone is only one symptom. There are other symptoms included here.

Hypotestosterone is the specific medical condition (according to the AMA) of reduced testosterone.

By this logic, a shooting pain down your left arm is an indication/symptom of a stroke. However, there are other symptoms of a stroke as well. A shooting pain of this sort could also be indicative of another ailment entirely.


Lastly, to checkthefridge, if you want to experience hypogonadism for yourself, just take supplemental testosterone for a while. When your done, you'll get to experience hypogonadism firsthand. Supplemental testosterone halts the natural production.

[quote][cite]checkthefridge said[/cite]Do any of you guys supplement your levels of testosterone? What have been your experiences and what have you used? Next time I see the doc I'm going to ask about it but I wanted to get some advice from guys that have upped their testosterone levels first hand.

I had tried it in the past when I was 15 at Tijuana and it was really heavy shoot (oily) now it did help but I heard that when your start to used it in a hughe amount your body will stop developing natuarly and your body will depend on the shoots... PERSONALY I WOULD NOT DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE REPROCAUTIONS... I just bought this month's issue FITNESS RX and it has several good articles in how to develeop or increase your testosteron level natuarly...read it and it will help you...for it has been working pretty well.

checkthefridge,

I would recommend getting your medical advise from your doctor. They after all have gone to school to study this type of stuff and not rely on arm chair quarter backs. I am just curious for those of you who have the time to do multiple post in one day, what do you do? Do you have friends? Its seems everyone on hear just wants to be right and I have yet to see anyone with MD next to their name.

bgcat57 said"Low testosterone is also known as hypogonadism"

This is not correct. Hypogonadism is a condition of which reduced testosterone is only one symptom. There are other symptoms included here.

Hypotestosterone is the specific medical condition (according to the AMA) of reduced testosterone.

By this logic, a shooting pain down your left arm is an indication/symptom of a stroke. However, there are other symptoms of a stroke as well. A shooting pain of this sort could also be indicative of another ailment entirely.


Lastly, to checkthefridge, if you want to experience hypogonadism for yourself, just take supplemental testosterone for a while. When your done, you'll get to experience hypogonadism firsthand. Supplemental testosterone halts the natural production.

DING DING DING! Winner!


pwned!

tribulus terrestris is used by bbuilders who damage their testosteron regulation by using steroids. this is a plant/herb which boosts testosteron secretion.it can be used safely. google it

bgcat57 said"Low testosterone is also known as hypogonadism"

This is not correct. Hypogonadism is a condition of which reduced testosterone is only one symptom. There are other symptoms included here.

Hypotestosterone is the specific medical condition (according to the AMA) of reduced testosterone.
.

My quote comes from WebMD, as well as my own endocrinologist. Where are you getting information that my statement is incorrect, when I've given you the site reference?

Look up hypogonadism on mayoclinic.com. It is described as "condition in which the body doesn't produce enough of the sex hormone testosterone". http://mayoclinic.com/health/male-hypogonadism/DS00300

I am simply pointing this out for the benefit of the OP (or others) who may want information on this condition, he's not going to find anything on most prominent medical web sites, and he should look up the medical term (or maybe the more widely accepted medical term) of hypogonadism.

That's all I've got to say on the matter. Talk amongst yourself if you want to keep calling it hyptestosterone or whatever else, then go take it up with the staff at the Mayo Clinic.

checkthefridge - I hope you found at least some of my information useful.

Wow, I didn't think this thread would be so popular.

Is there anything that can help your body produce more testosterone naturally? Something other that can kind of jump start your testicles into producing more by themselves. I already eat fairly healthy (not a total health nut) and am very active. I'm a professional dancer so I'm jumping, lifting, turning etc 6-7 hours a day five days a week.

Thanks guys,
Tom

Try whacking your nuts with the heel of your shoe.

Caslon said...hypotestosteronemia

Isn't that an italian pastry?

Increasing your pituitary's secretion of Human Growth Hormone is probably the best way to increase your growth.

This article has a staggering amount of information.

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/human-growth-hormone.html

Here are the final suggestions:

A suggested exercise and dietary strategy for optimising human growth hormone (hGH) secretion is as follows:

Exercise – three sessions per week, each involving at least 10 minutes’ work above lactate threshold or a number of sprints, with a 1:3 work-rest ratio;

Before exercise – no fat for 60 minutes before, 2g glutamine 60-90 minutes before;

During exercise – plenty of plain water (ie 200 ml every 10-15 minutes if training in 18-21°C);

After exercise – avoid sugar for two hours post exercise but take 25g protein immediately afterwards in the form of either a protein shake, protein bar, lean meat or eggs (although you should limit your consumption of eggs to avoid too much cholesterol).


P.S. DON'T BE TAKING HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE (HGH). LET YOUR BODY MAKE ITS OWN. YOUR BODY HAS INTERNAL REGULATORS TO MAKE WHAT IT NEEDS.

Caslon said

P.S. DON'T BE TAKING HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE (HGH). LET YOUR BODY MAKE ITS OWN. YOUR BODY HAS INTERNAL REGULATORS TO MAKE WHAT IT NEEDS.

As I read that I could swear I heard Chucky's enraged screams way off in the distance.

A note of clarification for LatinMuscleSF

From an abstract of the American Association Of Clinical Endocrinologists:
Hypogonadism is defined as “inadequate gonadal
function, as manifested by deficiencies in gametogenesis
and/or the secretion of gonadal hormones”

This refers to the production of testosterone, semen, etc. Therefore, it is not ONLY the lack of testosterone production. That is one aspect of it. It is not accurate to assume that it is only that. Thus, as Caslon stated, Hypotestosterone refers specifically to the lack of testosterone or reduced production of it.

Secondly, sites that you refer to like WebMD and MayoClinic, are geared towards lay people and not medical professionals. The information on these sites (and many like them) is simplified for the average person who is seeking understandable information regarding health issues.

Caslon said...After exercise – avoid sugar for two hours post exercise but take 25g protein immediately afterwards in the form of either a protein shake, protein bar, lean meat or eggs (although you should limit your consumption of eggs to avoid too much cholesterol). ...

I am currently working with a trainer who said that there is a 15-minute window immediately after exercise in which you need to something high-glycemic to get your glucose up -- something like Gatorade, or dried fruit. From what he said, it sounds like a little bit of something sugary (but not too much) is important, I will follow up with him on Thursday to confirm why.

He also says you also need protein within 30 minutes of the end of exercise to feed the muscles -- which I think we all know.

He says there is a debate among professionals about whether to take all of this together immediately after exercise, or to hold off on the protein for a bit.

But the important thing is: (A) 15 minutes to get the glucose back up, and (B) 30 minutes for Protein (whey being the most optimal for faster protein absorption, but other proteins, also, for a longer period of absorption).

Re: LatinMuscleSF's post on "hypotestosterone", if you can't Google hypotestosterone and find that indeed it is a word, you are just plain ignorant. Caslon4000 was grammatically and medically correct in using the word in the context he chose.