S&P downgrades Greece

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    Jun 13, 2011 6:01 PM GMT

    Standard & Poor's downgraded Greece's credit rating Monday, saying a default on some debt appears "increasingly likely."

    The rating agency cut its long-term rating on Greek government debt to triple-C from B, leaving Europe's weakest state just two notches above default. S&P blamed toxic bailout politics, saying strings appear likely to be attached to the next round of official funding for Greece in an event that would "result in one or more defaults under our criteria." [...]

    The markets have begun treating a Greek default as a fait accompli, with the credit default swaps market reflecting a 73% probability that Greece will fall behind on payments within five years.

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    Jun 13, 2011 7:00 PM GMT
    Evidently, Greece along with Portugal and Japan are all in the same boat as the US, bankrupt but still spending like drunken sailors in a wild waterfront brothel.
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    Jun 13, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidEvidently, Greece along with Portugal and Japan are all in the same boat as the US, bankrupt but still spending like drunken sailors in a wild waterfront brothel.

    Greece should be instructive to the US. And another reason why I think the public's appetite for spending continues to fall.
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    Jun 13, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    Greece and Portugal are in a very different boat to Japan and the US as they don't control their own currency and so can't devalue.

    Also, Greece evidently bullshitted a lot of its national accounts for several years, which combined with periodic attacks from politicians, makes bond investors a little wary.
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    Jun 13, 2011 9:36 PM GMT
    Greece should have retained their own currency, the Drachma and they wouldn't be in this mess.
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    Jun 13, 2011 9:41 PM GMT
    um the solution for Greece (much like the US) is to dissolve their current currency and start anew.
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    Jun 13, 2011 9:46 PM GMT
    Money is liquid, it needs to flow in order to revitalize. Freezing the economy is the worst thing you can do in this type of situation.
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    Jun 13, 2011 9:52 PM GMT
    5ebastian saidum the solution for Greece (much like the US) is to dissolve their current currency and start anew.

    That's what the Israeli's did in 1986. Because of run away hyperinflation; they created a whole new currency called the New Israeli Sheqel and started lifting food prices that had previously been frozen by law.

    Today, Israel's economy is booming and its not because of money from the AIPAC.

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    Jun 13, 2011 9:52 PM GMT
    What Happens if the Greeks Default?
    Andrew Lilico, writing in the London Telegraph, gives us the answer to that question with a series of short bullet points. I might not agree with all of them, but he is looking in the right direction. (quoting from http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/andrewlilico/100010332/what-happens-when-greece-defaults/)

    “It is when, not if. Financial markets merely aren’t sure whether it’ll be tomorrow, a month’s time, a year’s time, or two years’ time (it won’t be longer than that). Given that the ECB has played the “final card” it employed to force a bailout upon the Irish – threatening to bankrupt the country’s banking sector – presumably we will now see either another Greek bailout or default within days.

    “What happens when Greece defaults. Here are a few things:

    - Every bank in Greece will instantly go insolvent.

    - The Greek government will nationalize every bank in Greece.

    - The Greek government will forbid withdrawals from Greek banks.

    - To prevent Greek depositors from rioting on the streets, Argentina-2002-style (when the Argentinian president had to flee by helicopter from the roof of the presidential palace to evade a mob of such depositors), the Greek government will declare a curfew, perhaps even general martial law.

    - Greece will redenominate all its debts into “New Drachmas” or whatever it calls the new currency (this is a classic ploy of countries defaulting)

    - The New Drachma will devalue by some 30-70 per cent (probably around 50 per cent, though perhaps more), effectively defaulting 0n 50 per cent or more of all Greek euro-denominated debts.

    - The Irish will, within a few days, walk away from the debts of its banking system.

    - The Portuguese government will wait to see whether there is chaos in Greece before deciding whether to default in turn.

    - A number of French and German banks will make sufficient losses that they no longer meet regulatory capital adequacy requirements.

    - The European Central Bank will become insolvent, given its very high exposure to Greek government debt, and to Greek banking sector and Irish banking sector debt.

    - The French and German governments will meet to decide whether (a) to recapitalise the ECB, or (b) to allow the ECB to print money to restore its solvency. (Because the ECB has relatively little foreign currency-denominated exposure, it could in principle print its way out, but this is forbidden by its founding charter. On the other hand, the EU Treaty explicitly, and in terms, forbids the form of bailouts used for Greece, Portugal and Ireland, but a little thing like their being blatantly illegal hasn’t prevented that from happening, so it’s not intrinsically obvious that its being illegal for the ECB to print its way out will prove much of a hurdle.)

    - They will recapitalise, and recapitalise their own banks, but declare an end to all bailouts.

    - There will be carnage in the market for Spanish banking sector bonds, as bondholders anticipate imposed debt-equity swaps.

    - This assumption will prove justified, as the Spaniards choose to over-ride the structure of current bond contracts in the Spanish banking sector, recapitalising a number of banks viadebt-equity swaps.

    - Bondholders will take the Spanish Banking Sector to the European Court of Human Rights (and probably other courts, also), claiming violations of property rights. These cases won’t be heard for years. By the time they are finally heard, no one will care.

    - Attention will turn to the British banks. Then we shall see…”

    Or the EU can kick the can down the road yet another time, as many mainstream candidates expect. The ECB will blink. Some way will be found to find money yet again, and politicians everywhere will pray that something happens that saves the system – like the Greeks suddenly start to pay taxes and Greek and Irish GDP jumps up to 5%. Nouriel Roubini has outlined a very clear plan for restructuring. It is not without pain, but there are ways, if they can join what Greg Weldon calls a twelve-step plan for European bankers to deal with reality.

    Sidebar: for the record, there are reportedly massive bank runs in Greece, especially on large uninsured deposits.

    It is hard to understand how people can ignore what I think are clear warning signs, but the following analysis shows us the process. My good friend and early mentor Dr. Gary North wrote a poignant piece in his Reality Check letter today about ignoring the signs of pending problems. I insert it here as the launching point for the close of the letter. (I learned about Austrian economics, and a great deal of what I know about writing, economic history, and more during my early years [in the ’80s] as Gary’s business associate.)

    “Trigger Points and Evasive Action
    “When would a wise Jew have begun making plans to leave Germany? 1933? 1934? 1938? 1939?

    “In retrospect, most people would say 1933, the year Hitler was appointed (not elected) Chancellor by President von Hindenburg. On 30 January, Hitler became Chancellor. He asked Hindenburg to dissolve the government and schedule new elections for March 5, which Hindenburg did.

    “Should a Jew have begun packing his bags? Maybe not. Maybe after the next election, the Nazis would have been defeated.

    “On 27 February, the Reichstag building burned down. One man did it, who admitted he had done it. Hitler immediately identified him as a Communist, although even today, it is not clear that he did anything but act alone.

    “Hitler used this as a propaganda tool. On March 5, the Nazis got 44% of the popular vote, up from 33%. With an allied party, they had 52% of the vote in the Reichstag.

    “Was it time to pack the bags? Maybe not. The Nazis did not have a majority. They had only a coalition majority.

    “On March 23, the government passed the Enabling Act. It took a two-thirds vote to do this. Hitler now possessed dictatorial powers. He had attained these by means of support by rival political parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

    “Was it time to pack the bags? Maybe not. Those powers might not be used.

    “On April 1, a one-day boycott of Jewish businesses was staged by the S.A., which were technically private storm troops. Was it time to pack those bags? Maybe not. This was not government-directed. It was only symbolic.

    “What about 1935's Nuremberg Laws on Citizenship and Race? They made it illegal for Jews to be citizens. But that was only politics. How many votes did Jews have, anyway? They were only 1% to 2% of the population. Politics isn't everything.

    “And so on, right down to Crystal Night in November 1938, when rioters broke the plate glass windows of 7,500 Jewish-owned businesses and burned or damaged 200 synagogues, meaning most synagogues in Germany.

    “After that, over 100,000 Jews packed their bags and departed. Between 1933 and 1939, about half the Jews in Germany emigrated: 250,000. But half did not.

    “There were a series of trigger points, 1933 to 1939. Most Jews sat tight until very late.

    “Yet in Austria, Ludwig von Mises saw the handwriting on the wall in 1934. He looked at the map. He concluded that the Nazis would wind up running Austria. Hitler was an Austrian, and he would want to control Austria. He packed his bags and took his first salaried teaching position, a job in Geneva, Switzerland. He warned Jewish friends to get out. Economist Gottfried Haberler did, in 1936. Economist Fritz Machlup already had. He fled in 1933. Well, not quite. He was in the United States in 1933, and he decided not to return to Austria. Both men found safe havens in the United States. So did Mises in 1940, when he left Switzerland, barely escaping German troops in France as he and his wife road a bus toward Spain, and from there to Portugal and the United States.
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    Jun 13, 2011 9:53 PM GMT

    “One might have thought that a careful reading of ‘Mein Kampf’ (1926) would have been a sufficient trigger point in the Summer of 1933. The gun was loaded. Then the hammer was cocked in March: the Enabling Act.

    “Laws enacted by the Reich government shall be issued by the Chancellor and announced in the Reich Gazette. They shall take effect on the day following the announcement, unless they prescribe a different date. Articles 68 to 77 of the Constitution do not apply to laws enacted by the Reich government.

    “Articles 68 to 77 stipulated the procedures for enacting legislation in the Reichstag. ‘So what?’ This seems to have been a mere technicality. The language was so procedural. But there was substance to it. As we read on Wiki, ‘The Enabling Act allowed the cabinet to enact legislation, including laws deviating from or altering the constitution, without the consent of the Reichstag.’

    “It was time to move out and move on . . . and not just if you were Jewish.

    “Some people see the signs. Others do not. Some decide to get out while the getting is good. Others do not.

    “Incident by incident, trigger point by trigger point, people see signs. Most people ignore them. ‘It can't happen here.’ Most times it doesn't. Sometimes it does.”

    A Random Walk Through the Minefield
    According to Dealogic, European banks have to refinance about €1.3tn of maturing debt by the end of 2012. This is the sort of pressure point capable of triggering a liquidity panic unless Euroland policymakers become much more proactive in the interim. But, as noted, it may take more market stress now to force precisely this sort of policy response. That implies a much greater correction for the euro against the US dollar than what has been seen thus far, and a further correlated sell-off in risk assets, including commodities (Chris Wood, writing in Greed and Fear).

    There are just so many risks in Europe that it is hard to make a list long enough. I think the risk to the world markets is higher than the subprime risk, at least from what I can see today. I know that the leaders of Europe think they can “contain” the risk. So did Bernanke in the summer of 2007. You cannot contain this until you actually admit the problem.

    Our credit institutions are so intertwined that a repeat of the 2008 credit crisis is entirely possible. Who plays the role of Lehman? Let me count the candidates. Greece. Ireland. Portugal. Spain. The ECB. Any number of large European banks with massive Irish exposure. Greece alone could be dealt with. That is why ECB leaders are right to talk passionately about contagion risks. But ignoring the political realities is not the way to deal with it.

    The simple fact is that at some point, whether this year or the next or the next, depending on how long they can kick the can down the road and how long German voters are prepared to bite 27% of the cost (NOT a given), Greece is going to default. Maybe the plan of the ECB is to keep financing Greek debt until it is off enough bank balance sheets and onto the back of the euro through the ECB balance sheet, before they pull the plug.

    Whatever the plan is, right now Europe looks like a very dysfunctional family. The potential for a messy divorce is quite real. Can you see Greece or Ireland giving up sovereignty to Brussels? Really? Then you should buy Greek bonds at 24%. They are a steal. At a minimum, Europe is in for years of expensive “therapy.” And we have not even gotten to their version of their health-care and pension crisis.

    The euro appears to me to be a massive short. (Note: I and my family leave the eurozone [Tuscany] June 16-17. Just saying.) You should limit your exposure to Eurozone sovereign debt and bank debt. If you are invested in US financials that write credit default swaps to European banks or hedge funds, you are not investing, you are gambling.

    Gaming the GDP Numbers
    I know I should quit, but this one quick note, as this just really annoys me. I get the methodology and rationalization of how GDP is calculated, but it does have the appearance of being “gamed.” This from my friends at Consumer Metrics. Link to the full report after.

    “The importance of the price deflater used by the BEA cannot be overstated. In calculating the "real" GDP the BEA continued to use an overall 1.9% annualized inflation rate, which is substantially lower than the inflation rates being reported by any of the BEA's sister agencies. The mathematical implications of the deflater are simple: a lower deflater creates a higher ‘real’ GDP reading. If April's CPI-U (as reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics) of 3.2% year-over-year inflation is used as the deflater, the reported 1.84% annualized growth rate shrinks to a 0.56% annualized rate, and the ‘real final sales of domestic products’ is actually contracting at a 0.63% rate. If instead of the year-over-year CPI-U we were to use the annualized CPI-U from just the first quarter (5.7%), the ‘real’ GDP would be shrinking at a 1.82% annualized rate, and the ‘real final sales of domestic products’ would be contracting at a recession-like 3.01%.” ( http://www.consumerindexes.com/)

    Tuscany (And I Get the Irony)
    I am in Boston (Cambridge) at a Harvard reunion week with friends (I went to Rice – Harvard on the Bayou, as it was called back then – so am not a Harvard alum) and fly to Rome and then take a train to Tuscany on Sunday and Monday. Five of my kids will already be there. After having basically trash-talked Europe for nine pages, I get the irony of going there; but the little village of Trequanda is the first place I have ever gone back to for a vacation. It is heaven, or at least it is for me. I love Italy. For that matter, I love France, Spain, Greece, and the other dozen-plus European countries I have been to. Rarely have I had a bad time.

    There is a difference between the people and land of a country and its government. I am truly sad for what I think will be a difficult time for the people of the eurozone, not that we in the US (as I have written many times) don’t have our own issues on the near horizon. But there is no reason not to enjoy ourselves on the descent into economic hell.

    Finally, although I rarely do this, let me highly recommend you take about 15 minutes and watch the “rap” videos of a sparring match between Keynes and Hayek. The first, which hit the streets a year ago, was sensational and fun; but the second one is the best capture of the economic irony (that word again) of the acceptance of Keynes in the press, when Hayek is being proven right, right in front of our eyes. For those with some understanding of economics it is great fun. It is also a serious teaching tool.

    I met Hayek in his late ’80s in the mountains in Austria, for a magical 3-hour interview/private lecture. If you have not watched the first rap video, then do so as a set-up to the second, which has amazing production values. Look for the Bernanke, double-nodding in time to Keynes rapping about consumer spending. I guarantee better than TV. You can see them both at http://pipesandtheories.blogspot.com/2011/04/keynes-v-hayek-rap-battle-part-ii.html

    It really is time to hit the send button. I had intended to make this a short letter, but these things happen. And for the record, this is the first time in eleven years I have gotten up at 6 AM to write this letter. I am usually a very late-night guy. Go figure.

    Have a great week. And thanks for being one of my closest friends. I do appreciate each and every one of you.

    Your seeing fabulous Tuscan meals for two weeks in his future analyst,

    John Mauldin

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